Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The other changes will stop the wholesale warzone flip, as you'll want to have as many systems as possible all the time.

Not sure where to put this idea, but this thread comes closest I think.


Could CCP split up the LP system in OP and DP Offence point and Defence Points and either give them a separate shop or make them diferent parts of the price in the LP shop.

So to by a Navy vessle you need a certain amount of defence and offence points, that might bring a little change in all the vunrable systems that no one is going to topple and forces plec farmers to deend as wel as to just offend.

Fighting in Eve requires both sides to decide to engage (or requires at least one side to derp around unscouted to get ganked)

Front lines won't solve anything other than allow the dominant side to dominate the frontlines. There will be more blueballing of fleets when one side is larger/more capable than the other. This will lead to fewer fights overall - or more time wasted in stations while the FC comes up with the "perfect fleet" to counter the other sides' "perfect fleet". Boredom will occur.

One example is from 4 years ago when CCP decide to make an "event" out of Martoh for a weekend. PERVS and Caldari dominated the system. A fight was had, and then the rest of the weekend nothing happened because one side was stronger than the other. Nobody is going to consistently choose to engage in fights if he knows he will lose.

The current map allows the weaker side to use "guerilla tactics" and actually allows for a variety of engagements from solo to big fleets. For example, if your side is completely overpowered, then all you have to do is move a few systems away from the other side's home system. The current map also encourages each side to spread out to be more effective.

The "problem" CCP should be solving is how to stop farmers from exploiting the current plexing/LP system without making it too difficult to fight in plexes. The simplest solution was to force somebody running a plex to shoot all the rats. It probably should have been implemented one week into the last patch to see if it would work. But now we're on a different path with new plexes being created, etc.. We'll see what happens in this next iteration.

If you can't defend against enemy farmers who are deep in your space, as you say, then you are doing something wrong. There are still tons of fights to be had. And if you're not getting fights, then you're doing something wrong. You should try finding fights pre inferno...where we had issues finding WTs who roam in a BC gang or higher. In fact, looking at your corp name which had nearly 70 members at its peak but so-so activity, then I'm confident in saying that you were/are doing something wrong.

And besides, there already is a frontline. It's called Eha vs Vlillrier/Oicx. Or Nennamalia vs Enaluri. Or Nisuwa vs Rakapas. Or Old Man Star/Ladistier vs Heydielies. Tons of fights in these areas depending on timezones.

i would like it if they could remove the reduced clone cost and replaced it with the ability to buy clones with LP directly...

that way i could save isk for more important things...

Not sure if making excuses for not reading before posting or posting in the wrong thread is worse .. hahahaha

Bottom sticky, called "FW: NPC and you" or something like that, is the thread you are looking for. To save you some time however, let me just say Sleeper level AI and super-speedy NPC inties.

The fact that the NPC thread has been gathering dust for months now can only mean that the majority of us are rather happy with CCP's chosen solution .. I know I am .. exceeded my expectations handedly (had/have low expectations though, because :CCP:, but still )

I think if a militia is at Tier 1 and they choose to upgrade a system to 5 then CCP Guard should appear to provide moral support and troll the enemy.

:Edit January 8th 2013:
As of January 10th Dust Mercenaries from our Closed Beta will be active on Tranqulity alongside all of you, and you will see the influence of temperate planets on each FW system start to move as mercenaries are hired by the four empires to capture districts on each planet.
See CCP Nullarbor's dev blog for more details

Hey everyone. I've got a few updates to our plan to share, including one change happening in Inferno 1.3 tomorrow and some tweaks to the earlier described plan taking into account all your excellent feedback and our conversations with the CSM. This stuff affects both this thread and the other one, but I'm just going to post it here because splitting it up doesn't make much sense to me. I'll just link to this post from there, and we can keep the combined feedback here.

Firstly, we have the Inferno 1.3 patch releasing tomorrow which will represent the beginning of the Empires' preparation for the storm of new immortal infantry they see on the horizon. Most of the changes will be invisible to capsuleers, with the significant exception of Empire influence being increasingly exerted on the temperate planets of their contested zones. The four Empires have all begun to construct installations on the surface of temperate planets within factional warfare space that allow them to affect the system control to a limited but noticeable degree.

At this point the installations are being set up by local militias allied with their ancestral nations, so the planet control is being exerted by the original owners of the system, from before any FW sovereignty changes. This means that until the new mercenaries of DUST 514 begin deployment, the planet control will belong to the historical owners based on region (or another way of putting it, the builders of the stargates in each system). For instance, all temperate planets in Black Rise will exert influence for the Caldari, and all temperate planets in The Bleak Lands will exert influence for the Amarrians.

This influence will take the form of an increase or decrease in the number of Victory Points required to make a system vulnerable. If the same Empire controls both the planet and the Infrastructure Hub, the system will become harder to conquer through a higher VP threshold. If one Empire holds the Ihub and the other holds the planets, the system will become easier to conquer through a lower VP threshold. The influence exerted by each temperate planet is 12.5% of the standard VP threshold in either direction. Most FW systems have either one or zero temperate planets, and the maximum number in any FW system is four, giving a maximum possible VP threshold influence of 50% (12.5*4).

This planet influence will be adjustable once the DUST 514 Mercs are unleashed, but in the meantime it will present a static adjustment of the landscape that may influence which systems each Militia chooses to reinforce and base from. This change will take effect with Inferno 1.3 tomorrow.

:Edit January 8th 2013:
As of January 10th Dust Mercenaries from our Closed Beta will be active on Tranqulity alongside all of you, and you will see the influence of temperate planets on each FW system start to move as mercenaries are hired by the four empires to capture districts on each planet.
See CCP Nullarbor's dev blog for more details

No longer relevant.

I think this is a great move on CCP's part. It's a move to affect some sort of reset on the FW control before bringing DUST mercs on to TQ without actually just hitting the reset button. It will probably fuel some intense conflicts in the run up to the expansion with the dominant force being pushed out of the weaker force's space to an extent.