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Is there a way to continue to learn things in game?

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Kai Wong-Tong
Hippity Hip Hip
#1 - 2012-10-01 13:55:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Kai Wong-Tong
I just finished the starter exploration missions and was considering venturing out to do some exploring and fitting out my Imicus, but I had no idea how to do so. (i.e. what modules to get and so forth) I did some searching in the forums and various people mention various modules, but my question I guess was, is there anything in-game that leads you down this path or introducing modules similar to the starter mission, or is it at this point forward that we need to do our own homework to figure out what all these different modules are, what T1-T2 means, etc?
Jim Era
#2 - 2012-10-01 13:59:45 UTC
Not really. Everything else is made by players( Typically)
You just go out and make money by whatever means possible.
mine, or salvage, or blow up peoples **** and take their loot.

Yes, you must do your own homework.
I suggest staying in rookie help or the regular helpe channel, as well as reading the forums to learn more.

Wat™

Robert De'Arneth
#3 - 2012-10-01 14:09:18 UTC
Once you are done with the tutorial, they toss you inside a station by the air lock and tell you to find your own way!! Big smile Search for Eve Batle Clinc and other such sites that offer fitting suggestions.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 

Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-10-01 14:55:12 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Search for Eve Batle Clinc


When you are done searching for Batle Clinc, you should also visit these famous Eve resources:

- tehmitani.com
- dotln
- eve-kll

There are also some good articles on tentnhamer, so check those out as well.

If those are not enough, feel free to gogle for more, especially for famous blogs like those from Helcty Bosn or like Riftr Drfter.



Fly sfe O/

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.

addelee
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-10-01 15:00:48 UTC
I'd personally recommend doing the Sisters of Eve Epic Arc mission down in Arnon.

Not because it's particularly exciting but it is more of an extension to the tutorials. Other than 1 of the missions (the final one) you don't stand a great chance of dying and it's a good way to get familiar with Eve in terms of the interface and game mechanics. It'll put you in good stead for everything becoming natural rather than you having to think about where to click Smile

Also, you end up with about 15 Million isk plus bounties from NPC's and some decent faction standing which isn't a bad thing either Big smile
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#6 - 2012-10-01 15:07:32 UTC
Beckie DeLey wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Search for Eve Batle Clinc


When you are done searching for Batle Clinc, you should also visit these famous Eve resources:

- tehmitani.com
- dotln
- eve-kll

There are also some good articles on tentnhamer, so check those out as well.

If those are not enough, feel free to gogle for more, especially for famous blogs like those from Helcty Bosn or like Riftr Drfter.

Fly sfe O/

I don't think the newbie Q&A is an appropriate venue for trolling, Beckie.

Kai, there are multiple resources out there (blogs, wikis, guides, forums, etc) that can help you move on and up in Eve. With Eve having no well-defined "path" you should follow, the answers probably vary a lot. Some that I would recommend are:


There are tons and tons of others, and it's probably quite unmanageable. What I recommend far above any of those is find a newbie-friendly corp to join (that does what you'd like to do, of course). That way, you have people you can ask questions of live instead of just walls of text. Plus, Eve is a social game, and having people to play with is always good.

Welcome to Eve!

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#7 - 2012-10-01 15:08:56 UTC
addelee wrote:
I'd personally recommend doing the Sisters of Eve Epic Arc mission down in Arnon.

Not because it's particularly exciting but it is more of an extension to the tutorials. Other than 1 of the missions (the final one) you don't stand a great chance of dying and it's a good way to get familiar with Eve in terms of the interface and game mechanics. It'll put you in good stead for everything becoming natural rather than you having to think about where to click Smile

Also, you end up with about 15 Million isk plus bounties from NPC's and some decent faction standing which isn't a bad thing either Big smile

This is good advice, but the SoE arc is largely irrelevant if the OP wants to get into industry, mining, or something like that. It really just involves shooting lots of stuff and flying all over the place.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-10-01 15:15:25 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
addelee wrote:
I'd personally recommend doing the Sisters of Eve Epic Arc mission down in Arnon.

Not because it's particularly exciting but it is more of an extension to the tutorials. Other than 1 of the missions (the final one) you don't stand a great chance of dying and it's a good way to get familiar with Eve in terms of the interface and game mechanics. It'll put you in good stead for everything becoming natural rather than you having to think about where to click Smile

Also, you end up with about 15 Million isk plus bounties from NPC's and some decent faction standing which isn't a bad thing either Big smile

This is good advice, but the SoE arc is largely irrelevant if the OP wants to get into industry, mining, or something like that. It really just involves shooting lots of stuff and flying all over the place.


but the SoE arc gives you a good amount of starter isk which I doub the OP has.. and also just helps you get more familiar with the game and traveling to different regions etc. I did it as a noob because everyone recommened it and it was fine. I started solo exploration after that, just high sec is so damn sparse with good sites you have to travel so much. Still though, it was fun and lead me to wormholes and all that has to offer. GL. message me in game if you need help getting started with exploration, Ill throw you some fits and tips.
Jim Era
#9 - 2012-10-01 15:40:10 UTC
Casirio wrote:


but the SoE arc gives you a good amount of starter isk which I doub the OP has.. and also just helps you get more familiar with the game and traveling to different regions etc. I did it as a noob because everyone recommened it and it was fine. I started solo exploration after that, just high sec is so damn sparse with good sites you have to travel so much. Still though, it was fun and lead me to wormholes and all that has to offer. GL. message me in game if you need help getting started with exploration, Ill throw you some fits and tips.


He could easily ask and I could shoot him 50m or so instead of having to do that.

Wat™

Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-10-01 15:45:39 UTC
Beckie DeLey wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Search for Eve Batle Clinc


When you are done searching for Batle Clinc, you should also visit these famous Eve resources:

- tehmitani.com
- dotln
- eve-kll

There are also some good articles on tentnhamer, so check those out as well.

If those are not enough, feel free to gogle for more, especially for famous blogs like those from Helcty Bosn or like Riftr Drfter.



Fly sfe O/

Poor vowels, why are you so mean with them?

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]

Kai Wong-Tong
Hippity Hip Hip
#11 - 2012-10-01 15:46:52 UTC
I fixed my brutal misspelling on the title from "earn" to "learn" Completely changes the meaning of my message! :)

I'm really not overly concerned about ISK at this stage, just want to get my head around the amazing amount of variety even for ship fitting! I guess this is the deep end so to say and I just need to read, read and read some more :)
Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-10-01 16:15:57 UTC
Kai Wong-Tong wrote:
I fixed my brutal misspelling on the title from "earn" to "learn" Completely changes the meaning of my message! :)

I'm really not overly concerned about ISK at this stage, just want to get my head around the amazing amount of variety even for ship fitting! I guess this is the deep end so to say and I just need to read, read and read some more :)


What race ships do you fly?

For highsec exploration most of the sites are "gated" (combat sites anyway, where the most isk to be made is.) IE: A 3/10 site only allows frigates, destroyers, and cruiers to enter. Most high sec sites are 4/10 or lower. So I would stick with a cruiser and a frigate for all your exploration (assuming your in high sec.)

As an explorer there are 3 types of signatures that when you scan down you want to run.

Magnemetric sites: require an "Analyzer" and or "Salvager" (modules, t1 are fine.) These are archaeological sites where you are analyzing or salvaging remnants of old ships. These are probably the least money makers of the sites.

Radar sites: require a "codebreaker" (again, t1 is fine.) These sites require you to "hack" certain canisters and then you can loot what is inside.

Combat sites/DED Sites: These are strictly combat sites, sometimes with multiple "rooms" tied together by acceleration gates. Basically you clear the enemies, and look for the faction spawn or "boss" if you will. They have a chance of dropping deadspace or faction modules which can be worth a lot.

So basically its a good idea to have a salvager, analyzer, and codebreaker in your cargo. Then after you scan and bookmark the sites you go refit for whatever site you are running. I would use a scan frigate (ie Heron,) to scan and boomark the sites. Then go back with your combat/explo ship and clear them. Be quick though, high sec sites are competetive. I would open the map, and look for systems with low amount of players in it.

Hope this helps, sorry for the wall of txt.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#13 - 2012-10-01 16:20:14 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:

Seconding ISK The Guide. It is a tremendous reference.

Beware though that some sources are outdated (like Grismar's site... I don't think it has been updated in several years).
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-10-01 16:30:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tao Dolcino
Whatever you want to learn, there are tons of guides here around. It'd be surprising that you don't find what you need in them.
Raise your cursor to the top of this page and click on Evelopedia for a start Blink
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#15 - 2012-10-01 16:32:13 UTC
Eve Unis Wiki is always a good place to read up on stuff that you're unsure of, there is also a vast amount of stuff on youtube if you're more of a visual learner, the probing tutorial videos are well worth checking if you're getting into exploration.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

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highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2012-10-01 16:38:31 UTC
The hardest thing in eve to learn, is how to fit ships.


There are so many ships and modules, it takes time and experience, mostly from tiral-and-error to figure it out. You will lose many **** fits along the way, and maybe even get trollololololed at..

The only way to figure out what you need to fit, is to understand what you are doing, and how each module is going to assist you in doing what ever it is you are doing.

FC, what do?

Kai Wong-Tong
Hippity Hip Hip
#17 - 2012-10-01 16:40:55 UTC
Casirio wrote:
Kai Wong-Tong wrote:
I fixed my brutal misspelling on the title from "earn" to "learn" Completely changes the meaning of my message! :)

I'm really not overly concerned about ISK at this stage, just want to get my head around the amazing amount of variety even for ship fitting! I guess this is the deep end so to say and I just need to read, read and read some more :)


What race ships do you fly?

For highsec exploration most of the sites are "gated" (combat sites anyway, where the most isk to be made is.) IE: A 3/10 site only allows frigates, destroyers, and cruiers to enter. Most high sec sites are 4/10 or lower. So I would stick with a cruiser and a frigate for all your exploration (assuming your in high sec.)

As an explorer there are 3 types of signatures that when you scan down you want to run.

Magnemetric sites: require an "Analyzer" and or "Salvager" (modules, t1 are fine.) These are archaeological sites where you are analyzing or salvaging remnants of old ships. These are probably the least money makers of the sites.

Radar sites: require a "codebreaker" (again, t1 is fine.) These sites require you to "hack" certain canisters and then you can loot what is inside.

Combat sites/DED Sites: These are strictly combat sites, sometimes with multiple "rooms" tied together by acceleration gates. Basically you clear the enemies, and look for the faction spawn or "boss" if you will. They have a chance of dropping deadspace or faction modules which can be worth a lot.

So basically its a good idea to have a salvager, analyzer, and codebreaker in your cargo. Then after you scan and bookmark the sites you go refit for whatever site you are running. I would use a scan frigate (ie Heron,) to scan and boomark the sites. Then go back with your combat/explo ship and clear them. Be quick though, high sec sites are competetive. I would open the map, and look for systems with low amount of players in it.

Hope this helps, sorry for the wall of txt.


Ya I still don't quite ge tthe 3/10, 4/10, etc stuff, but I plan to fit out the Imicus that was given to me at end of the exploration starter missions. I guess at this stage I just wanted to understand how and why to fit it out with certain modules. I saw a lot of posts saying what to fit, but not really why or compare with others.
Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-10-01 17:04:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Casirio
Kai Wong-Tong wrote:
Ya I still don't quite ge tthe 3/10, 4/10, etc stuff, but I plan to fit out the Imicus that was given to me at end of the exploration starter missions. I guess at this stage I just wanted to understand how and why to fit it out with certain modules. I saw a lot of posts saying what to fit, but not really why or compare with others.


Basically it just means the higher the number the more difficult it is..Since all the sites have rats, yu will need two ships. One to scan the sites down (imicus) and another to actually run them.. . So a cruiser of any sort with as good as tank/gank you can fit is fine. any t1 cruiser can handle anything 3/10 and lower with a decent tank. (or you can use an all-in-one as seen below)

Edit, your Gallente so I would go with something like this: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/53739-vexor-all-in-one-exploration-on-the-cheap.html

I myself used an "all-in-one" Gila.. If you have a hard time scanning stuff down use your Imicus for scanning only, bookmark, then come back with your Vexor. Since the Vexor is a drone boat your high slots are not needed for DPS, just utilities. 1 gun to get aggro, then throw your drones out. Hope this helps.
Davith en Divalone
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-10-01 17:52:55 UTC
The imicus is getting a couple of good buffs to improve combat capabilities in December including a 3/4/3 layout and the ability to field 4 light drones with some spares in the drone bay. All of the other exploration frigates are getting drone bay expansions as well. Drones 5 isn't difficult to train, and unlocks Drone Interfacing which significantly increases drone damage. At least in highsec, guardian rats on mag and radar sites are fairly weak.

Personally, I use a Vexor for scanning in highsec because I've found combat sites a more consistent income than radar sites. (I found 5 radars over the weekend, after a two-week dry spell.) And I've only encountered a handful of mag, grav, and ladar sites that I couldn't pin down in an otherwise combat-fit destroyer or cruiser.

The lower-ranked DED sites have a maximum ship size:
1/10: Frigate
2/10: Destroyer
3/10: Cruiser
4/10: Battlecruiser
5/10: Battleship.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#20 - 2012-10-01 18:13:57 UTC
Actually, I can't believe nobody linked this yet, but... have a good "What To Do?" reference:

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

There are, of course, more things than that to do, but it gives you some idea (plus links to basic info pages on each thing).

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

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