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I'm sure CCP knows. I'm also sure the people who would unsubscribe over "boring PVE" aren't right for EVE anyways, since they're obviously not playing EVE as a sandbox game.


What if balancing means nerfs are needed?


What if this means a need to nerf hisec in certain areas?

Well they should still be lead, then if they don't where is the nearest dog food company?

It never hurts to try and makes us a better community for trying.

No he just represents apathetic scamers.

I'm not sure how you got that from what I said, but NO pretty much the exact opposite of everything you said. I do think they should vote, i think everyone should vote. As for education, the information is out there and readily available. Most of the CSM's that run have their own blogs and liberally share their opinions on the forums not to mention media coverage by the various Eve news publications, Eve Radio., hell they even do meeting minutes!. its all over the bloody place. There is no mystery here. People have to take the initiative on their own however, you can't expect that CCP or anyone else for that matter go out of their way to force everyone to listen to the the issues and force them to vote if they have no interest in it. And if they have no interest in it, why would you expect them to be represented on the CSM? And even if you did, how are we supposed to know what would accurately represent them if they don't vote and share their opinion?

What your basically saying is that "everyone should be represented", but its up to everyone EXCEPT the people who you require to be represented to figure out what would actually represent them? I mean I have no idea what the opinion of these people are because they don't vote or participate in the system.



Again your acting like its some sort of conspiracy. Even if that 3% was accurate (which I don't believe it is, but its irrelevant anyway) the fact remains that YES I do believe that people who vote should be represented and YES I do believe its up to each individual to take the time to educate themselves. The material is available, anyone with any interest in the issue will have no trouble finding thousands of pages of opinions on any given topic and CSM's point of view. If only 3% vote, than only 3% should be represented.

Not to switch topics here, but I think the point here is that if your playing Eve for PvE content.... you missed the point of Eve. PvE is there as a filler, not its primary content, unlike most MMO's in which PvP is the filler and PvE is the primary game content.

PvE in Eve is fine and serves its purpose. A little bit of farming to make some ISK to get yourself going, fill out your income a bit or entertain you while you wait for your friends to log in. If its all you do, than yeah, your probably going to get bored, but I don't see how focusing on PvE content in a game designed for Player interaction would improve it. And what we are really talking about here is Solo content, which to me has zero logic in an MMO (Multiplayer) ... say it with me.. if you play Eve alone, your doing it wrong.

From my perspective anything that will make things more interesting and expand the player-base (without totally destroying the flavour of EvE) is a good thing. More player=More Money=More developers=More fixes and fun expansions.

It may seem logical, but from a perspective of "realism" the best way to expand your game is to build on its existing success, or do I need to remind you of the Star Wars Galaxies "NGE"?

Eve is a game about player vs. player competition. 90% of all mechanics in the game function on some form of conflict and all conflicts can be resolved with a blaster. To create some sort of Theme Park embedded gameplay in the middle of that is a waste of money and resource and would do nothing to increase numbers, quite to the contrary, CCP has already tried to make this more like "other MMO's" and people quit this game by the thousands as a result (WIS anyone?).

This games focus should be on what it does best... and the CSM represents that opinion, the opinion of the most passionate, most educated and most involved players.

Now regarding the 3%... again this is 3% of people that voted, it does not by a long shot mean that everyone else in the game is of opposite opinion of those 3%. Its more likely that people do not vote because their interests are already represented whether they vote or not because I believe that the majority of all players in Eve play this game because of its current design (A PvP Focused Game) and not because of some hope that it will one day be some sort of PvE theme park playground.

PvE content has been relatively unchanged in Eve over the course of its lifespan and its population has increased year by year for most of its life span... So the draw to this game is not PvE. I bet if everyone voted, their would still be no representation of PvE players on the CSM panel.

Unfortunately that leads down the road called Montyhaul, never a good thing. Done in stages small nerfs to Hi and small increases to the others this would work and it looks like it might be the road they will take.

Except I haven't seen as many nerfs to hisec as I have seen to nullsec the past 2-3 years, and the one nerf I've seen to hisec has been made for exactly the same reason as the one made to anoms: it was too much isk. I still think hisec has too much isk available to it, especially given the complete lack of effort needed to gain it, otherwise most nullsec people wouldn't be running around with a hisec alt (or more) specifically just to make money to feed their PVP habit.

The 3% is 3% of the populous, so lets get that out of the way. Eve is so much more than PvP if this was just PvP I would not be here, I prefer world of tanks for that. EvE is a lot of different players all within the same sandbox, not it is a sand box not a boxing ring. Making PVE better would make the game better, so please don't just throw around a catchy fraze like theme park, because I believe you can play paint ball at some theme parks.

You keep asking the same question despite the fact its been answered several times by several people....