EVE General Discussion

First you will have to ask yourself, do you like EvE Online?

If you are hesitant to answer that is probably because you think that some behavior is crossing a line in regards to supposed maturity or getting the feeling the game is not run by the right people (not pointing at CCP here, on the contrary)
Goonswarm has a reputation (true or not) of wanting to ruin games and have been stopped in their tracks a few times.

Some believe Goonswarm is just about arshattery.
Well this is arguably true for some of the members (coming from somethingawfull.com).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXOHjQoq0Rs
And some of you probably recognize this good lad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1sdTzj9iac&feature=related

But is this true today?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-2acttwPNc
Also watch the entire alliance board presentation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Ki91U-mBE
Now, how much better would EvE be if all players would be civil like the first 4 speakers?
That’s another question, but let’s keep focusing on whether it is still true today that goonswarm is not out to destroy the game.

Logically, mittens got banned and actually got off easy IMO. He also “resigned” as CSM 6 Chairman and was not ineligible for CSM7 because of the ban.
He then officially apologized only to state to seek revenge after receiving the ban. Burn Jita.
This was dually obvious that it was revenge because after the Jita riots, also fueled by Goonswarm propaganda, it was agreed upon that it would be a onetime event.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbh2ct_B7DQ
Did you know that this has cost quite a few people there job since CCP had to lay of 20% of their people!?

Not the only reason of course, but it didn’t help either and a much more professional approach should have been expected if goonswarm actually wanted to help to keep the game entertaining and solving the problem at that time.

Since than, the forums, and the most visited General Discussion in particular, started to see a flooding of created threads about how bad CCP is. How bad their service is, How bad the game is. How bad other players are. Not to mention the griefing is getting worse and worse.

And do not be fooled here. You might see a lot of those threads made by “non-goonswarm” characters. But they are Goonswarm characters (pets or otherwise), it is the way they roll.
Now factor in that they recruit scam constantly. One guess for the main target? Yes, players who barely got their feet down in EvE. They also troll every fair question of people that just started playing in a way that makes EvE look like a pool of drug /alcohol abusing psychotic maniacs.

Now wonder why EvE has trouble retaining new players?
Ever noticed how many threads like that come from worried fellow capsuleers?

Also, if you are a goonswarm tackler, please know that “tackler” is just a polite term for meat shield. It is not fun for you, you are being used, and every resource you have gets depleted. Regardless of ship replacement program. You are a resource as well you know! You could have spent that time actually enjoying, exploring, looking into other gameplay features, built up some fat ISK wise and maybe create your own corp one day or even an alliance. This pretty much goes for 90% of you people in goonswarm.

Also, since goonswarm is losing the war now, they are already making plans how to maintain at least the CEO / officer accounts. This means you are about to get ripped off. It would not be the first time this happens.
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1262659
It is good to see that forces opposing goonswarm finally started to collaborate. Even if they can’t stand each other, they have set aside their difference for this one goal. Get rid of those who ruin the game for everyone and seem to be out to destroy CCP out of a weird sense of entitlement and revenge.
I think there are a lot of gamers out there that are more entitled to get to experience EvE than this one group are entitled to ruin it.

Ide say:
Kill a Goon a day will make your troubles go away.

They are not the ones writing the great stories,someone like Chribba is, John Rourk with Clear Skies etc.
Those are the great stories.

Losing the war? Did I miss something?

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation

Goons don't scam new players. What isk would they have to lose?

Also do you have any idea how much isk Newbees earn from simply turning up to fleets? People throw money at them and Newbie tacklers are only meat shields when enemy FC's are ******** enough to primary rifters...

edit: CFC is losing the war? News to me.

You all can bet your arses these responses all come from Goons!

this is a pretty good advertisement for joining goons, you should take money for it

It could be worse.

Well, you cant blame them for not trying, but how do you derail something like this.....hmmmm?

So if I disagree with everything you posted does that make me a goon?

Also just to add, its alliances like the Goons, TEST, PL and those crazy Russians, -A-, Gyspy Band etc that make Eve the great game it is.

P.S

Was going to include Solar but they are not crazy.. just cowards :)

In the same way that the guy in the back woods calls you a reptilian if you don't put on the hat and coat hangers.

I could think of nothing funnier than me becoming a goon.

The chaos and destruction I could do over time......

To them