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A petition to CCP Greyscale on Sentry Mechanics (Please Read)

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Pipa Porto
#401 - 2012-08-07 18:09:11 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Tippia wrote:
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Fortunately the devs are smarter than them.

Fortunately, they're smart enough to already starting to backpedal on this hugely counter-productive idea.

Hmm, let's see what will happen... it would be funny if instead of instapopping frigates, they just instapopped everything.


Give Sentry Guns AOE Doomsday.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#402 - 2012-08-07 19:37:13 UTC
Kage Toshimado wrote:

/signed

But then again, I unsubbed all of my accounts when unified inventory came out. I'm just counting down the remaining days. If this actually takes place... I feel for all of the low sec pirates.




Leave already


the fact you are telling us you are waiting for your time to run out and not just left already is a cry for attention to get what you want.


LEAVE

FC, what do?
Bfoster
Dependable Delinquents
Fraternity.
#403 - 2012-08-07 20:19:08 UTC
Signed..

This is the WRONG direction for low sec ccp.. Way wrong..
Nortel
Death by Design.
#404 - 2012-08-07 20:37:47 UTC
SIGNED.

NORTEL
C Shot
TheCalm
#405 - 2012-08-07 20:38:50 UTC
/signed
Lord jin
Strategical Pony Attack Squadron
#406 - 2012-08-07 20:40:50 UTC
Signed.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#407 - 2012-08-07 20:47:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
I like the changes for gates bordering on high-sec.

However I also believe all the other gate guns should be removed.
ie : low-sec to low-sec and low-sec to null remove them.

But if CCP wants to do this to all the gates, no sorry that is overboard.

Give and take CCP give and take.

EVERYBODY KNOWS
Rathnon Domitras
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#408 - 2012-08-07 23:53:57 UTC
/signed.
Ponch Valdez
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#409 - 2012-08-07 23:58:54 UTC
/signed.

+ 1 from BYDI
Mutant Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#410 - 2012-08-08 00:27:52 UTC
Read the OP and the 8 pages after it. Having 3 outlaw characters and a 4th in the making.... /signed Evil
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#411 - 2012-08-08 00:32:21 UTC
As long as I don't wake up married to a women about to drop a kid, or missing a kidney, then Signed.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#412 - 2012-08-08 01:34:12 UTC
want to kill someone in lowsec? do it off a gate... now you will have to find the miners mining, the people running scan sites and missions ect.
Zeddy
Yoyodyne corporation
#413 - 2012-08-08 01:42:40 UTC
/signed
Verge Izaura
Yoyodyne corporation
#414 - 2012-08-08 01:45:30 UTC
/signed
Boo Bo Nakrar
Skeletons of Society
#415 - 2012-08-08 01:46:30 UTC
/signed
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#416 - 2012-08-08 03:52:58 UTC
Golly, it's like you think that filling a region with pirates turns it into Somalia or something.

So did anyone actually watch the Crimewatch video, or are you just running with what someone else handed you & assuming that they told you the complete, unbiased truth entirely for your own benefit out of the kindness of their heart and not just so that you'd upvote them for their own personal gain?

The sound of the Amarrian heart
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#417 - 2012-08-08 04:41:40 UTC
ugh i dunno
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#418 - 2012-08-08 04:42:48 UTC
Eternal Error wrote:
/signed even though this doesn't really affect me


Pipa Porto wrote:


"Suspect" is their new, wide reaching Crimewatch replacement for aggression flags.

The "Suspect" flag is pretty terrible for other reasons, but having crazy-strong sentry guns shooting you for looting the field or helping your friend who's been attacked while looting the field is adding extra terrible on top of the terrible that it brings to HS combat.

This. Given his recent track record of proposed changes, I wouldn't count on CCP Greyscale formulating a reasonable reply. His posts in threads about the crimewatch changes were awful.

EDIT: To clarify, if either the proposed sentry changes or the suspect changes go through as currently planned, I will be unsubscribing. It's not that the changes affect what I do that much, but both of these changes make it abundantly clear which direction Greyscale/CCP are taking the game, and it is not the direction that I came to know and love over the past five years. Additionally, both of these are horrendous examples of "it isn't broken, let's break it." The fact that you are wasting serious development time on crap like this given the current state of game balance (and other proposed changes like the POS revamp that are much more important and have more support) absolutely blows my mind.


this
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#419 - 2012-08-08 06:08:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Tippia wrote:
Fortunately, they're smart enough to already starting to backpedal on this hugely counter-productive idea.

Nice to hear that tbh. Even though I don't have relations with lowsec, you guys were fast to explain how shallow the idea is. Really, bringing people to lowsec should be done, but the idea of "suspect" flagging is just ridiculous.

I support the idea of bringing better exploration rewards to lowsec. People who do exploration aren't the same as typical L4 highsec mission runner, it's not uncommon for them to roam in losec (typically in something like Pilgrim, but still). It's completely doable to increase amount of people like that by making it viable to do lowsec gang exploration (making said gang legit PvP gang that is there for certain goal, not bad for free PvP environement lowsec is supposed to be) by maniplating rewards and other simple measures. At least, that's how I see it.

As it was said already, camps will go nowhere with those changes. Tackling frigs with ASB or something like that will still be able to do their job, and off-grid warps with F1 massive alpha and stuff like that is exactly why people would prefer lowsec to null - they don't like this style. But then this idea... Derp.

You know, when my toon will grow up, I want to have a choice of gameplay, not just hisec style vs null style (stay off from WHs please, dear game design geniuses out there).

Oh, almost forgot:
/signed

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
darkenspace
Imperial AMARR White Kights
#420 - 2012-08-08 07:35:07 UTC
let me just say that if you patch out are fix any type of game play in eve might be a bad idea you have feed that type of player too long over the many years that eve has been out it is the only kind of player that you have left in game ganking camping easy pvp kills high skill vs low skill kind of too late to fix that uneven type of pvp might as well keep the game as it is real pvp like tribes mw3 has to do with reflex speed hand eye skill mmo type pvp is about getting the upper hand in a fight you can not fix mmo type pvp in any mmo . just keep as it is and make eve 2 that way poeple that like it the way it is can play the ones want a more wow type game can play the new one all are happy then