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A petition to CCP Greyscale on Sentry Mechanics (Please Read)

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1BoroBoy1
TeN Corp
#261 - 2012-08-05 15:47:24 UTC
Stick the game up yer arse if this happens.
RIP Eve.
Goons own null, carebears own everything else now=pirates dead
Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#262 - 2012-08-05 18:48:52 UTC
1BoroBoy1 wrote:
Stick the game up yer arse if this happens.
RIP Eve.
Goons own null, carebears own everything else now=pirates dead


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Cerra Nidhugger
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#263 - 2012-08-05 19:44:34 UTC
/signed
Granadix
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#264 - 2012-08-05 19:47:12 UTC
/signed
Endosis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#265 - 2012-08-05 19:48:23 UTC
/Signed
Mistreak
Pirates For Hire
#266 - 2012-08-05 19:53:05 UTC
I can only imagine what pirates will do to jita if this goes through...

/Signed.

aside, if they want to make the sentrys stronger then allow the use of bubbles and bombs. I'd rather they left well enough alone.
Rip Jaws
ProtoTek Aerospace
Fraternity.
#267 - 2012-08-05 19:57:25 UTC
Signed!
Bassquaeler
107th Suicide Kings
#268 - 2012-08-05 19:59:03 UTC
/Signed
n8aszala 6elshzo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#269 - 2012-08-05 20:09:16 UTC
/sign

Time to take over nullsec entrances me thinks. I think i'll leave an alt in high sec to continously destroy and gank anyone and anything without remorse too.

Enough is enough.
Gilgamesh1980
The Black Rabbits
RAZOR Alliance
#270 - 2012-08-05 20:24:14 UTC
Dear Mr Greyscale,

thank you very much for sharing your thoughts, however I have to respectfully decline them

Kind Regards


The Pirates of Losec

P.S. please finaly make Pirate FW or some REAL Losec stuff and we will stop hiding your left shoe
Ravan Hekki
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#271 - 2012-08-05 21:01:14 UTC
/signed

Ok as a non-pirate, life without lowsec would be leave us with two bits of very safe space :P I think lowsec should be less like null sec light and more like a scary no mans land between null and high.

Hell it should positivly encourage piracy, cause lets face it null is sewn up and nearly as secure as high.

High sec is a choice and there should be high sec based corps. If they wern't there you would have dead space where realisticly the most people would be. Carebearing should be a valid career choice or pirates have no one to hunt. Can you imagine an eve where everyone is in a null sec corp? The future is a sea of blue moon miners ;)

Null is very much like city state italy. Lost of people politicaly allied, but not fighting. Its like empire, but with private security. I supose if HS is like a the current western world, Null is like a corperate run dystopia. There is war, but its only to keep people behaving and the money roling in. Too much is invested by too many people for it to really become the thunderdome people say it is.

WH space is home to space vikings. They shoot each other post GF and only come out to raid people then go home. Very close knit and very likly to discover america, get drunk, steal stuff and forget where it was. It is also home to the same 'elite' pvp found everywhere in eve (ie loads of people mugging one poor fella and then saying how great they are at PVP ) however at least you dont have people in local.

Low sec is the place where the lawless people who want to slip through the gaps should be. Pirates, the poeple wanting to profit from the empire wars. I would suggest that if anything there should be a mechanic for pirates to shut down gate turrets, bribe techs or hack them.

So don't kill off pirates.... save this dying breed...oh and pay your ransoms. There are pirate children going without food becasue of you.
John Kony
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#272 - 2012-08-05 21:04:21 UTC
Ravan Hekki wrote:


So don't kill off pirates.... save this dying breed...oh and pay your ransoms. There are pirate children going without food becasue of you.


Suffer :)
Dograzor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#273 - 2012-08-05 21:28:00 UTC
/signed.

I wrote a full reply in the other thread about this topic.

I do want to mention the core part of my post:

I am an outlaw at heart. I love lowsec. I love being able to roam around in dangerous lowsec systems, not caring about politics, CTA's and major tech wars. I love killing targets of opportunity and picking my own fights. I just love being an outlaw, as in the definition of outlaw itself:

Quote:
"Out·law - A person who refuses to be governed by the established rules or practices of any group; rebel; nonconformist:"


This is a playstyle that Eve Online is able to give me, and I will not give it up. I do feel that this upcoming change in its current form wil challenge my playstyle.

I will not give up being an outlaw because of this change, but I do feel that this upcoming change reflects the long term philosophy that CCP is taking on lowsec. I have a feeling that lowsec will be changed into a place appealing to new or law abiding citizens, while ignoring its outlaw denizens that have lived here for years.

CCP, I feel that lowsec is suppposed to be a place where the criminals, outlaws and the scum of Eve can call their home. Close to highsec for targets, smuggling, ganks, camps, general clusterfuck roams & area's (amamake, old man star), and far enough from null not to be reminded of sov grinds, tech wars & politics. If you want to improve highsec, I am sure that there are plenty of idea's within the community that can be put foreward. TBH, I think that an lowsec revamp is long overdue, since risk/reward (esp reward) is very unbalanced.

Dear CCP, don't get me wrong. I don't mean to criticize your idea's, but I do feel that this idea, is a mistake. Lowsec needs waay more love then just a simple gategun tweak... And please, dedicate resources to do so. I love lowsec, and I do know that being forced to go null for any kind of decent pvp.. Will cause me to lose interest in this game. I'm an outlaw at heart, and I am planning to stay so.

Thanks Pirate


Deathhwish
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#274 - 2012-08-05 21:49:23 UTC
/signed

way to kill piracy, way to kill lowsec more, how about some actual ideas that improve the situation?
Tankos Aphelion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#275 - 2012-08-05 22:00:11 UTC
Signed.
Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#276 - 2012-08-05 22:20:21 UTC
Halcyon Ingenium wrote:
With respect to your OP, I'll sign if you can show that your interpretation of "suspect" is the one actually intended for a change in game mechanics purposes. As funny as I find your day being ruined, I don't find funny changes to mechanics that have no clear purpose or reason behind them, or those changes which it seems obvious to me will not have the effect intended. This change, if your interpretation of "suspect" is indeed more than just arm flapping panic, would fall in the later category.

As to changes to get people into low, or at least more passing through, the answer is obvious. You don't see it because you assume everyone in null actually flies from null to high and back again. It's like you don't even realize there is another way to make that trip. You seem as blind to it as all the high sec peeps that whine about bottlenecks to null, not realizing every null area has a back door wide open for anyone, unguarded, to fly straight through.

Jeebuz, don't you people look at things like maps and skillbooks? Never mind, I already know the answer.


You clearly failed to read a later post in which I described the two primary methods of travel in Eve. As far as the interpretation of "suspect" that has yet to be defined in black and white by any CCP Dev since it is in the "tweaking" and "speculation" phase. So for now we'll assume the worst possible scenario until Dev's step up and flatly put something in their next minutes or something more concrete.

Also I find it rather ironic you blame JD ships for the "reason" to bypass Low Sec. In actuality JD (jump drive) ships have created more flexibility and ease of travel throughout New Eden. So you'd assume that with less of a burden more people would set up shop.

That clearly is not the case and JD ships are not the problem. BTW my day wouldn't be ruined. It would just turn into "Hurry! shoot the fish in the barrel before we're shot ourselves!" Online.
Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#277 - 2012-08-05 22:27:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Tara Read
1BoroBoy1 wrote:
Stick the game up yer arse if this happens.
RIP Eve.
Goons own null, carebears own everything else now=pirates dead


Perhaps it would be amusing to take on our "owners?" I for one would grin as Null Sec burned. Chaos should rein in Eve. Not a false sense of security you can buy or sell to the weak. Security in numbers is false security.

After all some men just want to see the world burn.... Pirate

Edit: Oh! and this whole little "greed is good" excuse that the CSM and Devs vomited up to pacify the stupid in Eve? It's a lie (and this is coming from a Pirate)

Greed is not good when only a handful in Eve hold the most wealth, the power, the voice and control to how this universe is shaped. I for one would offline every POS, self destruct every super capital, every dreadnought, from the major powers that keep a vice grip on the freedom in Eve and it's markets.

Burn Baby. Burn. Give me my Eve back Twisted
Tysinger
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#278 - 2012-08-06 00:17:06 UTC
BURN JITA AGAIN !!!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#279 - 2012-08-06 00:35:32 UTC
Tara Read wrote:
1BoroBoy1 wrote:
Stick the game up yer arse if this happens.
RIP Eve.
Goons own null, carebears own everything else now=pirates dead


Perhaps it would be amusing to take on our "owners?"

They need to buff CONCORD before we make lowsec burn.

SO about the carebears owning lowsec, uh ... well ...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#280 - 2012-08-06 00:41:06 UTC
Tysinger wrote:
BURN JITA AGAIN !!!


We're pirates, we haven't seen jita in years.

Burn Tama.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.