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As long as Doomsdays still hit for 3 mio Dmg, Dreads still will be useless (also carriers). Youre doing alot of efford to change Dreads, but as long as they can be zapped in one second, they remain absolutly useless.
Titanblobs of many dozens are quite common. And those numbers will even rise in future. So just think about it:
100 Dreads vs. 50 Titans.....Titans will DD 50 dreads @ cyno-in......10 mins later 2nd wave of DDs will kill the remaining ones....
Is this what you want?

You need to nerf the Dmg amount of DDs down to 1 million or something. To make Capitals viable again....just do it! Also a SC will just be able to tank like 5 DDs.....it will pop in 1 sec. Nerf DDs! If you dont change DDs, it will be a concealed titan buff.

Another thing is the planned fighter nerf...just let them as they are. It would hurt carriers also. Supercarries should be able to carry 1 set of bombers and one set of Fighters....otherwise theyre pretty pointless.

Rest of the changes are ok. Looks good so far. Think about the 3 Mio dmg DDs. You cant nerf HP and everything and let the DDs untouched. They need to go down! Also keep in mind that titans can still butcher subcaps with their guns: Tracking nerf!!

Ok so theres lots of bitching and crying. Some people giving their 5cents. And some really good ideas out there. CCP has said they should be listening to their players so lets see if they do.

Supercarriers

"-Drone bay can only hold fighters and fighter bombers." Ok... How are we add a fighter bay and reduce the drone bay massivly?
Aeon, Revenant and Wyvern: 125000 (25 total Fighters + Fighter Bombers)
Hel and Nyx: 150000 (30 total Fighters + Fighter Bombers)

"-Reduce Shield, Armor and Hull hitpoints on all Supercarriers by 20%." I can live with this.

"-Reduce drone capacity. " Ok, heres the smaller drone bays.
Aeon, Revenant and Wyvern: 875m3
Hel and Nyx:: 1000m3

Fighters

"-Increase signature resolution to 400" How about we dont nerf all the carrier pilots, since the problem is that super carriers do "too much damage" So lets make this only effect Fighter Bombers. And while were at it lets change how fighters orbit? maybe give them a little more range? Maybe fighter bombers can shoot towers? just a thought...

Dreadnoughts

"-Remove drone bay from all dreadnoughts." Why? so they can be even more glass cannons who no way to defend themselves? I know most real cap pilots have been in that spot where they are alone with no support available to them. its a crappy place to be in but you know that your drones save lives. So lets change this to -125 drone bandwidth while sieged. thats fair, just like the carriers lose their drones while in triage.

"-Siege Module I: Boost damage bonus from 625% to 700% to compensate for loss of drones." Perfect, this still works out just fine.

"-Siege Module I: Duration time reduced to 5 minutes. Fuel cost -50%." Thank you! we have wanted this for a long time.

"-Moros: Remove drone bonus." and "-Moros: New bonus: 5% bonus to Capital Hybrid Turret rate of fire per level." Thank you again! I could go into a rant about how my moros will cap out now and be useless, but i wont, I know theres changes comming to hybrid weapons and i trust that CCP wont screw us over. This change brings the moros more into line with the other dreads and i think everyone is happy about it.

Titans

"-Remove drone bay from all titans." i dont think this will have much impact on anything honestly.

"-Reduce Shield, Armor and Hull hitpoints by 20%." I wont go there. I know titans cost a ton of isk, and should be hard to kill. But i agree that the titan blob is a very un-fun way to play a game, for both sides.

"-Superweapon: Cannot shoot sub-capital ships." As much fun as it is to DD a cyno frig. I dont see how this change hurts the game at all.

Logoff timer

"-After a player logs out, there is a check for player aggression every 15 minutes. If you have been aggressed, the timer extends for 15 minutes; if you have not been aggressed, you disappear as before. Note: this is only for player aggression and will not change what happens when you log off during fights against NPCs."

This change has been needed for a long time. One of the first things i was told when i started to play this game was "If you cant afford to lose it, then dont fly it". And i think this should go for everyone. If you get deployed into a no-win fight, sorry but you are pooched, theres no saves in this game. Its not your fault, FCs make bad calls sometimes and you lose ships. But thats part of the game.

I know i'll get flamed and whatever. Dont care. This is my opinion and i am free to express it. Some others have been posting the same things i am saying. I am happy for that, if the devs read what we think and act on it then the system is working how it should. I wont threaten to kill my subs or bomb jita if they dont listen to us, but it think it only fair they have a chance to see what we want from this game.

i was hoping for so much for dreads and this is what happens, my moros is even more worthless than now and dreads willl still get raped almost instantly by scaps.
not to mention carriers getting the shaft with the fighter changes..i mean carriers were so over powered and everyone was moaning about carriers right.
has this ccp tallest dude played eve. i mean the online game not the eve card game??

Then all Dreads would need an additional (pure) tool slot to fit it without gimping it's main purpose. Would give dreads some defence ability against smaller stuff (smart bomb or hvy neut) and at least some flexibility. I'd like it.

What we have going on here is the punsihment of the supercapital pilots espically supercarriers because they are too "versatile" and can defend themsleves. So CCP is bowing to the whishes of the isk poor pilots who cant afford a supercarrier themselves , or have been killed by one,so they whined until they got their way. It seems to me that of you spend billions of isk on a supercarrier it should have more capibility than a regular carrier. It should be able to field alot of drones and it shoudl be able to fend for itself. But noooooooo CCP bows to the will of the less fortunate and envious. Instead of buffing up the smaller ships they are going to harm the producers of eve by nerfing supercapitals. This is by far the worst idea in eve. Eve should be moving forward not backards. Dont nerf the supers but buff the regular caps and smaller ships.

Not sure what "not lacking the balls to actually stand up" would mean. Is that what you actually do ?

…balancing. It's a good thing for everyone involved.
Maybe they shouldn't have been such idiots then and brought some backup to kill those Abaddons and HICs.

SC quote of the day.



"It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.'"

-charles dickens


Nothing could have been written better for this moment.

Also, tracking/damage ration is too good on titans, since they have no siege module and, therefore, no penalty. One titan can kill a battleship every few minutes during a fleetfight. Bring 20 titans and a meager support fleet and you can butcher a fleet 3 times your size without any problems (provided they don't have the balls to bring their own supers in).

Worst adventure time episode ever.