Crime & Punishment

Remove all non newbie PvE out from space patrolled by CONCORD.

I bet the very notion of true safety in Eve runs counter to CCP's vision of the game.

It is good that you are learning. You've stated what you'll do to keep from being a victim of suicide ganking again.

The problem people are having with your suggestions is that they go against the very fabric that makes Eve different. The extra danger of not being safe anywhere except in station (unless you get scammed... of course) is what makes Eve a great game.

Your suggestions do not add anything to the game - making high-sec safer doesn't really do anything, except 'dumb down' the game. The solution to the problem is being aware, and fitting tank to the expensive ship you have. Not only that, but if you can't replace it, don't fly it.

The truth of the matter is, we, the players of Eve don't want this game turned into every other MMORPG out there. That means there will be bad with the good.

Personally, I don't care for suicide ganking, but I don't want it to be taken away. There are counters to it, you are doing that right now in the game by flying something less expensive and being aware and practicing escape maneuvers. Sounds to me like you're playing quite well. You've learned. For that, you'll save yourself many ships in the future.


Fly recklessly,
Rez

bloo bloo blooo i got ganked qq ok we have read it before, go make up something new. This thread is now about blobs.

I am not paranoid in the slightest. I could care less if you want to waste your free time hunting me down. Good luck! And I have no Idea what CandP is......so whatever.

I was only going to Amarr, but since you put the suggestion on the table....




So...you picked a forum at random, I take it? I'm offended... Pineapple would not approve of this abuse of C&P.

As a bit of an aside, I'd like to address the bit where you claim suicide ganking requires no teamwork or planning or coordination. Let me tell you a little story.

So, I don't really suicide gank very much. So when I saw ten mackinaws clumped up together around an Orca, I did what anyone who has some knowledge does when faced with a large task: I called an expert. Suddenly Violence, the suicide-ganking arm of Suddenly Ninjas, hooked me up with a dude who was bringing out a pair of smartbombing battleships. Here's the steps involved in making this sort of a gank work.

1) His high sec status toon brings the battleships to the appropriate station.
2) He gets his ganking toons into that station as well.
3) I make an insta-undock so he can leave the station without getting blapped.
4) I ship-scan the targets in order to make sure we brought enough firepower.
5) I provide a warpin, ensuring all of the targets are within smartbomb range.
6) He takes the insta, warps to my warpin, I get out of the stop while he's in warp, he lands, and fires the bombs.

That was five characters needed for those steps. My covops, his suicide gankers, and his clean toons. Seems like some planning and coordination to me.

Or something simpler. Darius III (CSM of my heart) took a friend and I looking for an indy to gank a couple months back. The setup went something like this:

1) My friend in the tornado, on the gate.
2) One of my dudes in a resebo/scooping ship, making his lock time better and getting ready to nab the loot.
3) Darius on the other side of the gate, ship scanning the haulers.

This was before the inventory window showed values, so he had to have an encyclopedic knowledge of the games items and their values in order to determine what was worth the gank. My friend needed to have all the right skills and also have the sec status to burn. I needed to be really quick to get over to the loot before it got scooped out from under us.

So, that's five and three toons, respectively, each with a job they need to perform. In what way does this show a lack of planning or coordination?

Let me end this thread for you Osirus (it was actually posted for you on pg 3).



This was his response to the Burn Jita event - when Goons ganked everything in Jita (0.9 security space).

The logic is quite simple both from a player perspective and economy perspective:

1) Player Perspective: the game is a sand-box and players can play any way they like. You can have safety, or relative safety, which is dependent on how you chose to play the game. Tank your ship and remain vigilant and you will never lose a miner to gankers.
2) Economy Perspective: completely safe mining areas would be inundated by players who would sit in these areas and mass produce ore, minerals etc. This would make the cost of production very low, which would make the market ineffective and flooded with cheap ships and modules. This would inevitably mean that death/destruction no longer becomes relevant because I can replace my ship/mods/implants for very little ISK.

Good luck in learning how to avoid ganks.

CCP, please change the game mechanics around the playstyle that I adamantly refuse to change.

lulz