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Inferno 1.1 feedback thread

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icy ghost
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2012-06-25 18:49:09 UTC
Didn't see it in the notes about the auto spiral in Roll
Stridsflygplan
Deliverance.
Arrival.
#102 - 2012-06-25 18:49:31 UTC
fix vaga please
May O'Neez
Flying Blacksmiths
#103 - 2012-06-25 18:49:35 UTC  |  Edited by: May O'Neez
Quote:
Many of the Minmatar models are due for refreshing/remodeling soon, as such, it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of time on artwork that is going to be replaced soon. Hence why they feel a bit unfinished in some areas.


I saw somewhere discussions around shaders update to put back the rust, devs were stating that the new looking of "blurry" is due to paradoxaly more accurate effects being applied. So ... wait and see.
Grady Eltoren
Hogyoku
#104 - 2012-06-25 18:50:49 UTC
PinkKnife wrote:
Since it seems many posters don't keep up with the test server forum.

I will enlighten.

Many of the Minmatar models are due for refreshing/remodeling soon, as such, it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of time on artwork that is going to be replaced soon. Hence why they feel a bit unfinished in some areas.

The individual ship differences and other fixes will likely be included in the next patch/update much as the Amarr ship logos were fixed in 1.1.

The UI has always been a breeze for me, I dislike the green outline because it looks garish and gaudy when my UI is monotone, but I understand some people felt it needed. Largely, the old UI wasn't easier, you were just used to it. Change for many people is difficult to manage.

More importantly though, Just because the issues you want fixed weren't included in this patch, doesn't mean it won't be fixed/iterated upon in the next patch. Alternatively, your individual opinion doesn't have a hard line to the devs mind. Simply because you find X to be Y, doesn't mean the Devs agree, or will implement as you want. It also doesn't mean all/some/any other people feel the same way.



I like the UI - so I will come out and say it to all the people on here that hate it. I think most people do.

In RE: to the Minnie V3 - I think most agree they need work. I appreciate your speaking FOR CCP as you are on Sisi and it is appreciated. But they need to come out and put that sort of info in the Patch notes instead of leaving players out to dry thinking this is what their ships will look like for the forseeable future. Don't you agree?

Third - Minnie ships are still to brown/yellow. Bring back the RED hues. In regard to the T2 variants - I don't mind the dark (almost black/charcoal) apprearance. It is kind of Unique and cool but now that many mention it I don't see many Differences in the T2 v T1 ships for Minmatar.

So my question is to you Pinknife -

What are the normal players missing here in regards to upcoming ship changes that we can thus channel our efforts into developer feedback??? Also a timeline would be nice OR some sort of DEVBLOG feedback as this forum feedback iteration of EVE seems to be very devoid of it today and I can't figure out why.
Aineko Macx
#105 - 2012-06-25 18:51:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Aineko Macx
The quality of the Minmatar V3 textures varies a lot I must say. One of the worse examples is the Hurricane, which looks absolutely flat (definitely worse than before). Others look good, like the Rupture and its T2 variants, or the Nag.

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Saile Litestrider
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#106 - 2012-06-25 18:53:18 UTC
Jiji Hamin wrote:
there is a difference between "some players dislike it" and "all players dislike it." I personally adore the new amarr and think they are consistently among the nicest looking ships in eve. the idea that they need to "step up to the plate" when they are producing stunning work is just silly. they look incredible.

there is a lot of uncool **** going on with this patch and its deployment, but the art team gets lots of love for their recent work in my opinion.

I'm not trying to bash you, everyone is entitled to their opinion and ides of aesthetics can vary quite widely.

But because I personally can't find a single thing I like about Amarr V3 over the previous skins, I'd just like to hear specifics, in the hope that it might make me less annoyed with the changes (particularly the fact that I now double-take several times and squint really hard to make sure I am in fact in my pilgrim and not simply an arbitrator by mistake).
Grady Eltoren
Hogyoku
#107 - 2012-06-25 18:56:33 UTC
FEEDBACK:

NEX STORE:

What about all the different color shoes and stuff that were in the game that didn't get released. I.E. Heels, there were turquoise, White, etc.... Instead we get black, red and I forget.

You released some of them - why not all?? At least make people able to pick which color version of a purchased item they want.

Also - a plain black shirt for 300 AURUM but a cool camo tank-top for 100....it doesn't make sense. Should be reversed in price.

I want to return the AURUM items I bought today and didn't like...Can I get a refund or petition for it? K-MART does it, why can't CCP? : )
Dorna Loone
Dark Star Demolition
#108 - 2012-06-25 18:58:12 UTC
I refuse to thank anyone for updates to the Hangar System! This new system is still the most enormous pain to use.
How can I open my corp windows - neatly stacked - with a simple click (OK - at a push I'll setle for 2 or 3) - each time I want to get at them without keeping them open all the time ?
I'm probably dumb and stupid for hating this new, fantastic, system so much but, for me it (a) adds absulutely NOTHING to the previosus one (b) involves at least 3 times the clicking, usually holding 'shift' as well, to get to any inventory location I want to look at .
Roll this f**g mess out and stop dicking about with it.
Jiji Hamin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2012-06-25 19:06:21 UTC
Saile Litestrider wrote:
Jiji Hamin wrote:
there is a difference between "some players dislike it" and "all players dislike it." I personally adore the new amarr and think they are consistently among the nicest looking ships in eve. the idea that they need to "step up to the plate" when they are producing stunning work is just silly. they look incredible.

there is a lot of uncool **** going on with this patch and its deployment, but the art team gets lots of love for their recent work in my opinion.

I'm not trying to bash you, everyone is entitled to their opinion and ides of aesthetics can vary quite widely.

But because I personally can't find a single thing I like about Amarr V3 over the previous skins, I'd just like to hear specifics, in the hope that it might make me less annoyed with the changes (particularly the fact that I now double-take several times and squint really hard to make sure I am in fact in my pilgrim and not simply an arbitrator by mistake).


in a nutshell? I remember a while ago hearing some art design devs talking about the amarr CQ and saying the word "cultish" and I think that sums it up for me. the amarrian ships look damn sexy to me. I flew them before, and they looked cool, but they look just plain evil-er now, they look creepy and cultish and awesome. minnie look cool, but i can relate to the complaints from pilots who started flying minnie when they looked one way and now they look different. but amarr, in my opinion, just look so ******* badass now. i can't speak for the red-gold changes on the CC ships, i took them for a testflight on sisi and loved the crusader and paladin, but i haven't been flying those ships since patch. i thought they looked good before and looked good after.
PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#110 - 2012-06-25 19:07:41 UTC  |  Edited by: PinkKnife
Grady Eltoren wrote:


So my question is to you Pinknife -

What are the normal players missing here in regards to upcoming ship changes that we can thus channel our efforts into developer feedback??? Also a timeline would be nice OR some sort of DEVBLOG feedback as this forum feedback iteration of EVE seems to be very devoid of it today and I can't figure out why.


First, I don't speak for CCP, at all, i'm just a player who follows the test server forum pretty heavily. All, and I do mean ALL of the issues brought up here have been posted in that forum already.

Another issues is that the vast majority of the playerbase doesn't follow the forums, won't comment on things, and mostly can't be arsed to give their opinion. The people who have no problem with the inventory UI aren't likely to come on here and say, oh yeah working fine, versus the people that hate it, and want it change,d are.

It is a standard sampling and feedback error that comes about in most customer service aspects of companies.

The only thing I know of that they have said is that many of the older ships are due for remodels/reiterations, Beyond that I haven't heard anything. If you want to know though, hop over to the test server feedback forum and check out some of the threads there.

Jiji Hamin wrote:

But amarr, in my opinion, just look so ******* badass now. i can't speak for the red-gold changes on the CC ships, i took them for a testflight on sisi and loved the crusader and paladin, but i haven't been flying those ships since patch. i thought they looked good before and looked good after.


Confirming Absolution is the sexiest ship in the game.
Jiji Hamin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2012-06-25 19:19:51 UTC
PinkKnife wrote:
Grady Eltoren wrote:


So my question is to you Pinknife -

What are the normal players missing here in regards to upcoming ship changes that we can thus channel our efforts into developer feedback??? Also a timeline would be nice OR some sort of DEVBLOG feedback as this forum feedback iteration of EVE seems to be very devoid of it today and I can't figure out why.


First, I don't speak for CCP, at all, i'm just a player who follows the test server forum pretty heavily. All, and I do mean ALL of the issues brought up here have been posted in that forum already.

Another issues is that the vast majority of the playerbase doesn't follow the forums, won't comment on things, and mostly can't be arsed to give their opinion. The people who have no problem with the inventory UI aren't likely to come on here and say, oh yeah working fine, versus the people that hate it, and want it change,d are.

It is a standard sampling and feedback error that comes about in most customer service aspects of companies.

The only thing I know of that they have said is that many of the older ships are due for remodels/reiterations, Beyond that I haven't heard anything. If you want to know though, hop over to the test server feedback forum and check out some of the threads there.

Jiji Hamin wrote:

But amarr, in my opinion, just look so ******* badass now. i can't speak for the red-gold changes on the CC ships, i took them for a testflight on sisi and loved the crusader and paladin, but i haven't been flying those ships since patch. i thought they looked good before and looked good after.


Confirming Absolution is the sexiest ship in the game.


but the prophecy hull in general has ALWAYS been sexy. but i love the little lights on the sides of the nose on the new one just to harp on a little detail. anyway, haven't seen/flown an abso on live server since patch.
VLAD VIRONS
Evolve Xcellence
#112 - 2012-06-25 19:23:25 UTC  |  Edited by: VLAD VIRONS
del.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#113 - 2012-06-25 19:30:14 UTC
Jiji Hamin wrote:
Saile Litestrider wrote:
But because I personally can't find a single thing I like about Amarr V3 over the previous skins, I'd just like to hear specifics, in the hope that it might make me less annoyed with the changes

in a nutshell?

No more butter-yellow. Amarr look golden now. I don't feel like my corp name is appropriate when flying an Arbitrator anymore, and this is a good thing.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#114 - 2012-06-25 19:30:21 UTC
You totally failed to actually address the major problem with war declaration cost scaling. Wonderful.
Josef Djugashvilis
#115 - 2012-06-25 19:35:37 UTC
When I undock my Domi - it is so close it feels like it is going to fall out of the monitor.

This is not a signature.
Jiji Hamin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2012-06-25 19:35:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jiji Hamin
VLAD VIRONS wrote:
Confirming - there no Minmatar race anymore.

P.S. Scimitar, Thrasher etc r now Caldari.

Get rid of BLUE/BROWN pls, give us corrosion and rust BACK! Twisted


because rust happens in space

confirming that the new core complexion ships are now too sexy for words. new minmatar is supa sexy.
Loardriver
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#117 - 2012-06-25 19:36:56 UTC
Forum have EVE Technology and Research Center division, right? - Right.
There we have Test Server Feedback, right? - Right.
There lives Amarr V3 Problems topic - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108567&find=unread

ANY ONE OFF CCP REED THIS TOPIC BEFORE INFERNO 1.1 DEPLOYMENT???!

Amarr V3 have still have some problems:

Carthum Conglomerate logo is painted, like Minmatars logos, other Amarr logos in 3D-style.
Sentinel (T2 EAF) still have wrong logo.
Abaddon`s jet are still terrible.
Punisher hull have curve line of front illuminator.

it was posted : 2012.06.12 (TWO !!! ....one pus one ) week ago!
Joseph O'Neil
Sanctum Within
#118 - 2012-06-25 19:41:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Joseph O'Neil
Since almost everyone in here is simply whining about the changes to the inventory or ship models Roll, I'll ask this question myself.

CCP, in the patch notes you mentioned this:

"The transition between systems when jumping through a stargate has been improved; the camera will point at the same nebula area between jumps."

I'd like to know exactly what you mean by this, as I haven't noticed anything different when jumping through a stargate.
Was it even put in? Or am I just missing something here...

Thanks in advance.

Btw I LOVE the way the Amarr ships look. Absolution = sexiest ship in the game.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#119 - 2012-06-25 19:50:50 UTC
Very, very laggy. I'm extremely irritated at having a choppy game whenever I warp, jump through gates, approach a POS, undock, use a jump bridge, or pretty much anything else. My game was SMOOTH 60 fps with high graphics pre-patch, now with low graphics it's 30 fps at best, usually worse, with very choppy movement and animations all across the board.

I really almost don't want to play anymore until you fix this issue. It's absolutely terrible.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
None ofthe Above
#120 - 2012-06-25 19:55:53 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Jiji Hamin wrote:
Saile Litestrider wrote:
But because I personally can't find a single thing I like about Amarr V3 over the previous skins, I'd just like to hear specifics, in the hope that it might make me less annoyed with the changes

in a nutshell?

No more butter-yellow. Amarr look golden now. I don't feel like my corp name is appropriate when flying an Arbitrator anymore, and this is a good thing.


From the patch notes:
All V3 ship materials are now a bit brighter.

Can confirm that Amarr look better, but some of the Minmatar and Caldari seem a bit overamped (my initial looks at the Gallente say they are about the same). Looks a lot like the cell-shaded images I see posted around. ORE looks very different as well.

Some of the ships suffer and no longer look as real, but instead like kids toys in space, sadly.

Highly subjective I suppose. What do other people think?

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