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And its been acknowledged that construction costs need to be revisited with tiercide. All ships within the same class should probably be roughly equal to construct, with minor variations.

Well actually, lowering the Technetium requirements for the Hulk might very well be a reasonable thing to do here, since it's no longer a Tier 3 Exhumer after tiers have been eliminated.

I agree that local market conditions shouldn't be a factor, but general availability and cost of materials should be part of the balance of ship construction.

Before we all become grammar *****, let's keep in mind that EVE is a multinational game played by many people for whom English isn't a first language, and so mistakes don't necessarily indicate laziness or lack of education.

I would be in favor of this. It makes sense and wouldn't step on the toes of any other ship.

Edit: No tractor beams just a Ore Industrial with an ore bay say 30k M3 with 10% bonus per lvl so at max skills it could haul 45K ore.

Very excited about these changes, particularly to the mining barges.

I think its important to note that since most of the Hulk stats haven't changed, if the changes to the other classes make your high-sec Hulk less desirable - because you have more options now - that isn't a problem with the game.

The conversion to a fixed-size ore bay seems to be designed to combat afk mining. Afk mining contributes very little to player-generated content. It's full-on aversion. It's not-even-looking-at-the-screen aversion. But why make the ore bays so small? The vast majority of hulks in game use cargo expanders and have had somewhere ~18K m3 to play with and now will have to deal with a much smaller fixed volume?

Single-player industrialists won't be docking after every mining cycle so this cargo cap reduction will probably increase the frequency of jetcan mining imo. Reduced onboard storage = more jetcans? (Good news pvp'ers.)

And reading all this too bad, so sad baloney has got to suck. Your max-yield Hulk won't be the best high-sec option anymore but you are welcome to keep flying it. It'll just have an olive-sized cargo bay and now may only hold just one cycle of ore. Try not to notice.

I think CCP should go one further and create a new mining boat that mines 10 percent better than the Hulk and holds 30,000m3 in its cargo bay, but it's slow as hell, has no tank, and is shaped like a giant tick. When pvp'ers then flew through high-sec all they would have to do is look for these greedy little isk suckers, and thusly de-louse EvE.

With these changes high-sec Hulks are clearly going to be the ticks (efficiency over safety - suck, suck, suck) and I've gotta admit I'm feeling a bit sentimental over the Hulk's treatment in all this. Score one for the Hulkageddon crew.

Doesn't it seem like the Hulk is being put out to pasture rather unceremoniously? A little?

For quite some time now this grand dame was the gleam in every industrialists' eye. Now she'll be just one of many. An option only best in certain situations. Much less shiny. (Don't cry baby-gurl.)

If high-sec Hulks are to be emphasized in this way as the ticks of EvE, at least make her ore storage cap comparable to what previously existed. Why not?

Don't kick the girl again when she's already down.

Yonis Kador

Actually it would appear that solo/AFK mining is getting a potential boost. It's just that the hulk won't/shouldn't be the ship of choice for it anymore.

I like all the changes! xoxoxo

Battlecruisers are not broken, except for the Myrmidon, which could really use at least one extra (hi-)slot and a drone-bandwidth buff.

They do not need nerfing.

Anyone who says they do is a fool.

What needs buffing is cruisers. Badly so, in some cases.

That must be why I see so many Prophecies, Cyclones and Feroxes around