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holy crap so non of this is coming in inferno, wow its going to be 2017 before you get to battleships, considering this doesnt even include EAFs

I would 110% get behind this, naming it after Chribba would be a wicked idea, and im sure most other people would be good with it as well lol

2 Medium Guns would be the size of the Burst I think.

DO it! :)

Seriously though, I don't think Drones and the Burst would go so well, and really Minmatar have little affinity for drones (right behind Caldari). Artillery have kind of have crappy tracking, which makes it tough against small ships, so it's a tough choice for the Burst.

Please take Vigils speed bonus and build it into the hull! And for the Vigil, I clearly remember hearing : "Target Painting for Minmatar EWAR, really?!" comment. do you not have a sufficient solution to this yet? Or are you not going to modify the primary EWAR of the Minmatar anymore?

The Breacher should be a missile boat for sure, but with a better slot layout and a side of awesome sauce.

I think the EWAR boats seem like a good adjustment, overall they need to be a bit more hardy and useful. What do you plan on doing to the Sensor Dampeners to "un-nerf" them?

The New Dessies are a bit exciting. I just worry about so much destroyers love that frigates just keep getting chewed up. Frigates are really tore up by Destroyers right now, and a few extra HP isn't going to change the matter. In a situation where you're trying to bring more liveliness to the Frigate classes, which I TOTALLY LOVE, they need some recourse against the Destroyer at the very least, rather than needing 3-4 frigates to take down 1 of them effectively. Why not just get everyone into a destroyer and then you don't need to worry about frigates at all.


Review 1MN MWD?

Along with these rebalances, I know it conflicts with some of the work you've done overall so far, but I said a long time ago with the Assault Frig rebalance that all 1MN MWDs should basically have half the sig penalty radius (since it's a small MWD, smaller penalty), this gives all the frigs a little more survivability on the field. Of course, that means the interceptor and AF bonuses should be reviewed and adjusted, but I think you should really look into it as a way of making T1 frigs more survivable on huge battlefields.

Seriously?

So let me get this straight.

T1 frigates.destroyers to be released this winter;
T1 BCs/BS one update after that(summer 2013)
T2 frigs/destroyers after that(winter 2013)
T2 BCs/BS after that (summer 2014)
T3 and/or faction ships at the end(winter 2014)

Two and half years long balance plan?

Are you ytterbed?

This cost is even more dramatic in the barges and exhumers.

I agree that this should be considered.

A T2 version of the mining frig would be interesting. Perhaps have it specialize in "ninja" mining ops, or low/null-sec gas mining.

So what's the point? - While the yield isn't the best, it gives people an opportunity to gather some of the higher tier minerals without holding down sov or establishing a heavy presence in a low-sec system. Plus, paired with some transport ships and a black ops BS, there are some interesting opportunities that might provide for some interesting mining ops (think of the mining equivalent of the weekend warrior taking trips into low/null).

Here's some suggested bonuses:

Ore Mining Frigate: 5% bonus to shield resistance, and 100% bonus to mining laser and gas harvester yield per level.
Exploratory Mining Frigate: 10% bonus to ore bay storage capacity and 5 m3 bonus to drone bay capacity per level.

Role bonus: 100% bonus to the range mining lasers (not strip miners) and gas harvesters and 99% reduced CPU requirement for covert-ops cloaking devices.

Base drone bay capacity 25 m3 (so at level 5 it can fit up to 10 light drones/mining drones)
Destroyer-like speed and agility so there is a chance for frigs to decloak.
3000 m3 base ore bay capacity

Phantam / Soundwave is the above kinda what CCP is looking to do? just to clarify though not specify exact dates/months but like the above.

Thanks for the clarification.

Hi,
I'm happy to hear that you are willing to give *some* of the mining barges a bit of a buff against attackers. The ore hold bonus to the retriever/mackinaw is nice but I don't think that 1 jettison can worth of ore + a bit tougher defense is going to get people to switch to using these ships. The best setup for a lone miner is to use a hulk to mine and then use an Orca to pick up the jet cans.
I believe that if you want to make the ore hold really worth while on the mackinaw/retriever, you should look at the minimum of 4 jet cans in space if you're expecting pilots to give up using a Hulk/Orca combo.

In Eve, time is money and vice versa- unless you can make the mackinaw/retriever mine more efficiently w/o Orca or other hauler support (basically make it mine more or equivalent to a Hulk mining and then the time it would take to fly back to station and grab an orca to haul jet cans etc), the Mackinaw/Retriever will be used by only a small percentage of players.

To the point: CCP, make the Mackinaw/Retriever worth my time as a lone miner and I will use this over the Hulk.

Doesn't the ability to survive a Thrasher or two make them worth your time?