Warfare & Tactics

I don't know. It only takes a day old afk alt to defensive plex as well. So... I guess in one case an afk alt gets LP and in the other case the afk alt does not.

In this case, "attacking" alts get LP where "defending" alts do not.

My apologies I should have said "caldari militia" instead of "you" when addressing the manticore issue. Secondly this does not change the fact that there is still and advantage to one side. I will also add that I can see how the caldari side would want to retain that advantage. In reference to your last comment I can only see that your nasty behavior has come from one incident. I do remember wanting to fight 3v3 and you had the advantage in the fight. I do remember that you would not engage when you thought we had 2 falcons with us but did not. I did not even see anyone else with us. Yes i laughed because that was hilarious being accused of having 2 falcons when we did not and i did not see how you could of come to that conclusion. But in all fairness you would have laughed at us too if we said the same. The comment needs to be turned around I honestly have no idea why you are so bitter with me. Comments like this are really rediculus when i had no intention of getting personal.

I am trying to have ccp look at this and realize it is a problem. The alts that just rake in the LP are rediculus. Making npc's harder for minmatar and Caldari to deal with is the only solution that will take care of alot of those problems of players just creating extra toons to speed tank for lp. But it can also be argued by some that there is no problem with speed tanking for lp and that is what FW should become. The march of the alt armies.

Because it is unfair. When one side can run the largest plexes with no skill alts in cheap ships and the other side can only do the same in skilled alts with not so cheap ships, that right there is a fundamental disadvantage.

But are you going to add missile spam to the races that currently don't?

It is good to know that CCP is using minimal time effort to solve problems that are not even problems.

Real problems are somewhere else.

This whole problem does not even exists if players play EVE on right way.

Yeah and let's also institute a rule that allows militia members to only fly that race of ships as well. That will fix all of FWs problems.

It astounds me how the usual suspects in the Caldari militia countinue to say things that everyone, including themselves, knows aren't true.

There has never been a CCP bias towards the Gallente militia. The Caldari militia have, from the very first day of Empyrean Age, always had a large number of advantages over the Gallente that everyone on both sides are aware of, so it seems entirely counterproductive and pathetic for people to pretend that things were somehow different. From day one, Caldari had a significant numerical advantage and have not, for a single second since then, ever had less members than any of the other militia. Timezone distribution of plexes has always favoured the Caldari due to the large number of European members they have. Caldari plexes are significantly more difficult to run than Gallente plexes and this is a known fact.

Even more importantly, the Caldari militia started with Duty. corp, one of the most effective non-nullsec mercenary corporations in the game at the time, who had done a significant amount of homework on the test server. The early successes of Caldari plexing was based entirely upon tactics developed by Duty. that were passed on to people such as 22BDU. There has, of course, been a concerted revisionist effort by certain newer Caldari organisations to write Duty. and its members out of FW history, because Toushi Kimura was a smart man and pulled Duty. out of STPRO when he saw what a self-aggrandising clusterfuck it had turned into.

The funny thing about the usual Caldari militia voices is that they were curiously silent on the subject of FW iteration and balance when they were winning the territory war. Any suggestion of making plexes timezone-neutral to fix the downtime shuffle were viciously opposed. Caldari militia members cried crocodile tears about such things as the timer bug and diagonal standings but were perfectly happy to use them when it was beneficial to their cause. In fact, it may be remembered that the Caldari militia captured over half of Minmatar space by using the diagonal standings glitch to avoid plex aggro, allowing the beleagured Amarr militia to assault the control bunkers. Of course, this tactic eventually backfired hilariously when the outraged Minmatar militia snatched back all their territory and then proceeded to engage in the brutal, pitiless circle-stomp on 24IC's crying face that still continues to this day.

What astounds me is that the Caldari are still winning, and yet they're also still complaining that there's an unfair imbalance towards the Gallente. Presumably the only balance they're actually interested in is one that's tipped in their favour.

The only type of plex that I have not run is the Amarr line. Cal/Gal and Minny plex can all be done in frigs solo. All of them. Just because you are incapable of looking into types of damage to be done (gun/missile) and make an effort to defeat the racial EWAR doesn't mean it is impossible. Gal rats in a major plex will destroy any frig you catch in a few volleys, if you don't kill them first. That is the point of FW. For you to catch them in the plex and kill them. Not for you to sit in station complaining on the forums that the rats aren't doing your job for you.

Or is that what you want? For the EWAR to be so bad that you need a fleet of cap ships to capture a major compound?

Big up for having the balls to explain what can and can't be done right now and communicating efficiently. If winter is when it can be done, winter will have to suffice, just keep your word and fix it then.

Also, half the ppl raging here aren't even in FW anymore so don't stress about them to much, thye are just professional cry babys.

It does, I'm glad to hear that. It'd be good for everyone involved if plexes were more-or-less equally difficult across factions, and NPC electronic warfare was no longer a dominant defensive advantage (and a royal pain in the ass clearing some racial FW plexes).