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Issler Dainzer should be removed from the csm.

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#81 - 2012-05-20 01:02:09 UTC
Zhihatsu wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Just Alter wrote:


This is unacceptable.

How can a person be so vile?

CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.

In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.

Issler should be removed too, if anybody was not convinced by these posts/letters alone then they can search these forum, the proof of issler inadequacy to be a part of the csm is clear.


You couldn't be more wrong if you tried, which is understandable. Please get your facts straight and do some research first before posting slanderous statements. There was only 1 player who actually was removed from the CSM back quite a few years ago for breaking the NDA.

CCP didn't remove The Mittani from CSM 6, he resigned and due to his breaking the TOS/EULA, he received a slap on the wrist from CCP in the form of a 30 day ban from the game. That basically forfeited and eliminated him being in CSM 7.

Posting a prejudiced and biased thread like this filled with false statements while naming and attacking a specific player should be grounds for this thread to be reported, removed and a warning issued. 2nd offense would be a 2 week forum ban and if continued, the IP address of the account would be permanently banned.


So would you agree that Issler should be removed from CSM for attempting to sabotage CCP because a group of players destroyed her low-sec POS?



No, I do not agree with you nor do I see any evidence or proof that Issler is trying to sabotage CCP or break this game.

However, what I do see is various members of a large Alliance doing a smear campaign due to being scared they will eventually lose control of the CSM, severely negating their ability to indirectly control this game.

I have seen on numerous occasions your Alliance and it's infamous leader post statements of their intention to ruin all others game play, basically causing players to rage quit. That indirectly sabotages CCP's ability to make money and gain subscriptions, which will ultimately result in breaking this game.


As for the CSM, I think all members should only be allowed to serve on the CSM for a maxium of 2 consecetive years and then be eligible again after 2 years off.


DMC

Cool
Generals4
#82 - 2012-05-20 01:06:06 UTC
Just Alter wrote:

This is unacceptable.

How can a person be so vile?

CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.

In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.

Issler should be removed too, if anybody was not convinced by these posts/letters alone then they can search these forum, the proof of issler inadequacy to be a part of the csm is clear.


TEST tears are best tears?

Aren't you actually acting like those "pubies" TEST and Goons love to hate right now?

_-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. _

Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#83 - 2012-05-20 01:30:44 UTC
Zhihatsu wrote:
Malphilos wrote:
Dawn Flare wrote:
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
The abysmal way Goons act towards others

Just to throw it in there, Goons were hated on from day 1 of them coming to EVE, so their behavior to people who are not their friends is a result of the obvious us vs them attitude that was forced on them in the antiquity of EVE.


That's not the way I recall things.

Being complete a$$hats has been the focus of the Goon public persona from day one, it's not something the cruel world forced on them it's the way they chose to portray themselves.

Whether or not it's real is immaterial, it's the way they want to be seen.


How involved have you been with Goons when they first started, Mister "I've been in the name NPC corp for my entire 8 years"?


Didn't need to be involved with them at all to see the way they chose to portray themselves, and continue to portray themselves. If it's not the way they want to look, they're even more terrible than they claim.

Did you know you get three character slots with each account? Blink
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#84 - 2012-05-20 01:31:40 UTC
God just shut up, all of you.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Zhihatsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#85 - 2012-05-20 01:38:06 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Zhihatsu wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Just Alter wrote:


This is unacceptable.

How can a person be so vile?

CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.

In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.

Issler should be removed too, if anybody was not convinced by these posts/letters alone then they can search these forum, the proof of issler inadequacy to be a part of the csm is clear.


You couldn't be more wrong if you tried, which is understandable. Please get your facts straight and do some research first before posting slanderous statements. There was only 1 player who actually was removed from the CSM back quite a few years ago for breaking the NDA.

CCP didn't remove The Mittani from CSM 6, he resigned and due to his breaking the TOS/EULA, he received a slap on the wrist from CCP in the form of a 30 day ban from the game. That basically forfeited and eliminated him being in CSM 7.

Posting a prejudiced and biased thread like this filled with false statements while naming and attacking a specific player should be grounds for this thread to be reported, removed and a warning issued. 2nd offense would be a 2 week forum ban and if continued, the IP address of the account would be permanently banned.


So would you agree that Issler should be removed from CSM for attempting to sabotage CCP because a group of players destroyed her low-sec POS?



No, I do not agree with you nor do I see any evidence or proof that Issler is trying to sabotage CCP or break this game.

However, what I do see is various members of a large Alliance doing a smear campaign due to being scared they will eventually lose control of the CSM, severely negating their ability to indirectly control this game.

I have seen on numerous occasions your Alliance and it's infamous leader post statements of their intention to ruin all others game play, basically causing players to rage quit. That indirectly sabotages CCP's ability to make money and gain subscriptions, which will ultimately result in breaking this game.


As for the CSM, I think all members should only be allowed to serve on the CSM for a maxium of 2 consecetive years and then be eligible again after 2 years off.


DMC

Cool



So this quote right here, from the alliance mail sent by Issler after PL dropped dreads on her low-sec POS:
Quote:
Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.

Doesn't mean she wants people to unsub, thereby injuring CCP? And she didn't say these comments because PL dropped Dreads on her Low-sec POS?

People without faces have no mouths with which to speak.

Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2012-05-20 01:38:23 UTC
Jokes aside, Issler is becoming quite a disruptive member of a system that requires cohesion for any form of proper and successful representation of the playerbase.
Malice Redeemer
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#87 - 2012-05-20 01:48:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Malice Redeemer
Generals4 wrote:
Just Alter wrote:

This is unacceptable.

How can a person be so vile?

CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.

In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.

Issler should be removed too, if anybody was not convinced by these posts/letters alone then they can search these forum, the proof of issler inadequacy to be a part of the csm is clear.


TEST tears are best tears?

Aren't you actually acting like those "pubies" TEST and Goons love to hate right now?



Thing is, they suck at it, I'm pretty sure no one cares about this
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#88 - 2012-05-20 02:11:09 UTC
Zhihatsu wrote:
So this quote right here, from the alliance mail sent by Issler after PL dropped dreads on her low-sec POS:
Quote:
Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.

Doesn't mean she wants people to unsub, thereby injuring CCP? And she didn't say these comments because PL dropped Dreads on her Low-sec POS?

Dreads in lowsec shooting POSes shouldn't be allowed I guess o_O

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Zhihatsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2012-05-20 02:22:34 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Zhihatsu wrote:
So this quote right here, from the alliance mail sent by Issler after PL dropped dreads on her low-sec POS:
Quote:
Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.

Doesn't mean she wants people to unsub, thereby injuring CCP? And she didn't say these comments because PL dropped Dreads on her Low-sec POS?

Dreads in lowsec shooting POSes shouldn't be allowed I guess o_O

Remove all jump drives, I guess.

People without faces have no mouths with which to speak.

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#90 - 2012-05-20 02:27:09 UTC
Zhihatsu wrote:



So this quote right here, from the alliance mail sent by Issler after PL dropped dreads on her low-sec POS:
Quote:
Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.

Doesn't mean she wants people to unsub, thereby injuring CCP? And she didn't say these comments because PL dropped Dreads on her Low-sec POS?



No, it means we high sec players need to join together and fight back against those that would ruin our game experience. Never asked anyone to unsub.

I said join together. You made up what I wanted us to do once we did join together.

Two threads of nonsense. You know there is a dead thread in Jita Park with the same kind of nonsense. It went no where as well.

Get over yourself, I'm not going anywhere.

Issler
Zhihatsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#91 - 2012-05-20 02:31:14 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Zhihatsu wrote:



So this quote right here, from the alliance mail sent by Issler after PL dropped dreads on her low-sec POS:
Quote:
Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.

Doesn't mean she wants people to unsub, thereby injuring CCP? And she didn't say these comments because PL dropped Dreads on her Low-sec POS?



No, it means we high sec players need to join together and fight back against those that would ruin our game experience. Never asked anyone to unsub.

I said join together. You made up what I wanted us to do once we did join together.

Two threads of nonsense. You know there is a dead thread in Jita Park with the same kind of nonsense. It went no where as well.

Get over yourself, I'm not going anywhere.

Issler


But see, that summer when Incarna flopped, everyone joined together to unsub, then shoot the Jita monument until their game time ran out.

People without faces have no mouths with which to speak.

Zhihatsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#92 - 2012-05-20 02:31:43 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Zhihatsu wrote:



So this quote right here, from the alliance mail sent by Issler after PL dropped dreads on her low-sec POS:
Quote:
Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.

Doesn't mean she wants people to unsub, thereby injuring CCP? And she didn't say these comments because PL dropped Dreads on her Low-sec POS?



No, it means we high sec players need to join together and fight back against those that would ruin our game experience. Never asked anyone to unsub.

I said join together. You made up what I wanted us to do once we did join together.

Two threads of nonsense. You know there is a dead thread in Jita Park with the same kind of nonsense. It went no where as well.

Get over yourself, I'm not going anywhere.

Issler


By all means, rally your support base and come show us who's boss.

People without faces have no mouths with which to speak.

Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2012-05-20 03:18:43 UTC
I for one, welcome our soon to be miner overlords
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#94 - 2012-05-20 03:44:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
I say we keep her. We need another Ankh...Big smile
RAP ACTION HERO
#95 - 2012-05-20 03:48:01 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Zhihatsu wrote:



So this quote right here, from the alliance mail sent by Issler after PL dropped dreads on her low-sec POS:
Quote:
Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.

Doesn't mean she wants people to unsub, thereby injuring CCP? And she didn't say these comments because PL dropped Dreads on her Low-sec POS?



No, it means we high sec players need to join together and fight back against those that would ruin our game experience. Never asked anyone to unsub.

I said join together. You made up what I wanted us to do once we did join together.

Two threads of nonsense. You know there is a dead thread in Jita Park with the same kind of nonsense. It went no where as well.

Get over yourself, I'm not going anywhere.

Issler

Join together and ask for / do what?
PVP flags?
Full throttle on the wis?

vitoc erryday

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#96 - 2012-05-20 03:49:20 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Pok Nibin wrote:
Removing a CSM isn't a precedent. Mitt's departure may have been a first…
It wasn't a first. IIRC, he was the third CSM to be kicked out of office.


Spoon Throwers UNITE!

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

RAP ACTION HERO
#97 - 2012-05-20 03:54:03 UTC
oh only now you ask to band together after your alliance pos-es gets popped now shizz is real

vitoc erryday

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#98 - 2012-05-20 03:59:52 UTC
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
oh only now you ask to band together after your alliance pos-es gets popped now shizz is real

Oh now it's real, when there's Extra Large guns knocking on your POS.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#99 - 2012-05-20 04:48:56 UTC
I agree but cause she thinks in game actions = out of game person

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Lexmana
#100 - 2012-05-20 08:21:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexmana
Issler Dainze wrote:
Zhihatsu wrote:



So this quote right here, from the alliance mail sent by Issler after PL dropped dreads on her low-sec POS:
Quote:
Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.

Doesn't mean she wants people to unsub, thereby injuring CCP? And she didn't say these comments because PL dropped Dreads on her Low-sec POS?



No, it means we high sec players need to join together and fight back against those that would ruin our game experience. Never asked anyone to unsub.


The context you stated it in suggest otherwise. I have quoted it below. EVE is beyond broken and CCP is destroying YOUR game experience by supporting goons and Hulkageddon. That is what you said. And you called for action similar to the summer rage.

That is not supporting the game CCP has developed over a decade and it is not supporting the players that enjoy EVE online.

Issler Dainze wrote:
IBasically Eve is beyond broken.CCP is actually totally supportive of goons and ganking, they think of it as player content. They encourage and support hulkagedon! They actually laugh about miner tears. Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.