Crime & Punishment

As carebear I must say, this was not an exploit. It was well based on game mechanics and crying about this was a crappy move (perhaps the needs of materials after the great RMT hunting a move like this is needed to keep the balance of market prices, but as for the boomerang maneuver alone, it sucked hard).
Now there is a forced mechanic to avoid this for happening. Two wrongs don`t make a right, ppl.
I`m not friends with griefing, but this is lame.

Thank you!

Now, how in hell did you make that leap of insanity?

Stop listening to the voices in your head - they're giving you bum dope.

Point being, dumbass, that just because CCP says one thing, doesn't mean that they are right.
They pay attention to these kind of discussions because they want our feedback as they know they can be wrong.

This is the only game that has this kind of dedication to the players, and we obviously enjoy it.
So no, don't refrain from voicing your opinion. And if you don't want to see people continue to talk about it, well...

STOP READING THE F*CKING THREAD

I guess you missed the bit that said "if you don't want to see people continue to talk about this then stop reading the thread". But that's okay, I figured your sight would be impared with your anal cavity encompassing your entire head and all.

I didn't once put forward any opinion on the legitimacy of the "boomerang" technique. Also, I don't care about CCP's opinion on it, moreover I don't care about your opinion on it. Nothing CCP puts forward is ambiguous or murky, but that doesn't make it right and you're incredibly naive to believe that they'll ignore the community if enough of a fuss is kicked up about a subject. (again, not referring specifically to this issue - try to keep up)

I was going to make a joke about my character name, and the 'fantasies of potence' you mentioned, but i'm fairly sure it would go over your ass. (notice I didn't say head)

Wow, for someone in TEARS you sure shed a lot of tears, you sissy.

What this crybaby is complaining about, and let me have a chortle for a while here at the irony, is that he's gone -10 and hates the consequences of, viz. hopping in an untanked arty tornado which anyone can shoot him in, in a one-sided fight.

BAWWWWWWW!

All those terrible outlaw podding opportunists, making the cnsequences of your action come back to haunt you. Poor little fellow, cry some more! I know you want this game to be an endless source of free carebear kills, from which you can harest infinite tears and mewling blubbering and coat yourself in the armour of "well he was stupid / a bot / a nub" and carry on, secure in the thought that you are part of some elite alliance of ultimate grief.

But the reality is, if you're -10 and survive on suicide ganks for your kicks, you made the choice, now live with it. But keep on crying and fuming. Recycled tears are doubly delicious!

Can we get this Russian rage translated? My place of work has blocked google for some reason.

Wow again with the rage...

You my friend obviously don't understand how CONCORD works, or the implicit nuances of how suicide ganking works. Let me explain it to you, since you my friend have obviously never done it.

As everyone knows, you preform a criminal activity in high sec, CONCORD is coming to hit you with a 2x4, the variance is the time in which it takes for CONCORD to arrive on scene with said 2x4. The higher the sec status of the system, the shorter before CONCORD spawns and hits you on the head. This has significant impact on suicide ganking. That time it takes for CONCORD to arrive determines how much damage you can do to your victim, and this the possibility of popping said victim.

This has ALWAYS been the design intent, as stated by CCP in the numerous buffs to CONCORD. CONCORD was never intended to be tanked, ran from, evaded, nor damages as a result of your actions mitigated in any way shape or form. What has happened over the years is people have found solutions to the mathematical equations (yes i know, surprising right, that a video game is based on an equation not a vastly complex chaos system such as reality right?) that allow them to defeat the intent CCP has for CONCORD.

This is not my idea, this is fact. You can look it up, the changes to CONCORD and the cases (most of them FRAPSed and posted..) that have driven these changes.

Your solution to this "problem" implies that evasion was once intended, it was not. It also implies that there is no place for suicide ganking, when there obviously is. You also imply that the game is like WoW, which it is not. The simple truth of the matter is that suicide ganking has not changed the only thing that has changed is the fact that people were able to execute a solution that allowed them to mitigate damages that were intended for them from the start.

Its simply closing a bug. If you think this is "ZOMGTHISISNOWWOWWEAREALLGOINGTODIEWHAAAAAAA" then I have a suggestion for you, move to NULL. Suicide ganking doesn't exist. You can't hide behind your precious sec status and approach a target with the sense of security. Why don't you move down to NULL and get into some real fights before you start bitching about something that has no real impact on the game and claiming the sky is falling?


Don't know, maybe I don't care because it doesn't impact my game play, I don't go but 2, maybe 3 jumps into high sec.... ever.

For now put multiple instalocking concord scramblers in the CONCORD BILLBOARDS is an easy half way point. It doesn't really change the SUICIDE GANKING mechanic as far as timers and what not. It's win win. The SUICIDE GANKER can breath easy that he will get both the gank and the suicide.

Reading through this there is a lot of whining on both sides. Both sides are obviously biased. I'd say look at the point of concord. They hang in high sec to pop the ships of pilots who break a well know set of rules. They are the consequence. It's been clear for years: If you do one of these things, your ship gets popped by the man and we all move on. If that's not true atm then steps should be taken to restore the balance.

My bottom line for the gankers getting away - come on, it's easy math and tactically simple to pick the profitable targets. Stop being lazy crybabies. Scan, bam thank you maam. Losing the ship is part of the profession. If you can't figure out how to be cost effective while observing clear and simple game mechanics, then perhaps missioning in motsu is more suited for you. Man up, do the math and profit.

My bottom line for the ganked folks. Tank your ships. Use cloaks and on and on. I haul billiions in sleeper loot in iteron V. I've had the gankers unload on me twice and they failed both times. If you have a full boat of expander II's and cargo rigs on you hauler AND you are complaining about getting ganked you're doing it wrong. You folks have to accept that ganking exists [you don't have to like it or agree w/ it, you have to accept that it exists] take steps to safeguard yourself.

You guys are like 2 little kids scratching for advantage instead of dealing with reality. Let me clarify: There are gankers - deal with it. Concord is required to pop a gankers ship once he does the deed - deal with it.

The red frog guy has the most valid point in the thread. A round trip boomerang thrasher should not be able to pop a freighter on a gate over time [though all should understand and admire the gameplay and work is involved] Instascramming concord billboards will solve his issue. Concord already has the scrams coded in the game. Concord already has the billboards on the gates. This is an easy first step to solving a problem. Let's drop the semantics and posturing and all the crap and all join together and accept the reality. CCP, please apply this simple fix in the next patch.