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CCP employees must be removed from the game.

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CCP Soundwave
C C P
C C P Alliance
#241 - 2012-05-08 15:24:00 UTC
"Soundwaffe".

Christ Roll
Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#242 - 2012-05-08 15:25:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Kell Tarhun
In my personal opinion your post is true in way too much descriptive way. So you just made self inside troubles.

In my country there is a quote:
"Give a horse to guy so he can run away as he speaks true"....how about a space ship instead of a horse.
Maeltstome
Academy of the Unseen Arts
The Potato Alliance
#243 - 2012-05-08 15:27:18 UTC
Years ago certain CCP employee's where caught giving t2 BPO's (Before invention) to BoB alliance... literally allowing them to print there own money for well over a year. I think CCP became more strict about monitoring employee activity after that though.

The problem is though that a simple database query can reveal un-tapped high-yield moons anywhere in eve really, and although this is a much more subtle form of exploitation (and only 1 of many) it's still just as lucrative.

This isn't WoW, one persons success directly hurts other competitors in Eve and that means allowing employee's to play eve is really not a good idea. Trusting your staff is one thing, but thinking that every one of them is beyond reproach is simple gullibility.
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#244 - 2012-05-08 15:27:32 UTC
Kell Tarhun wrote:
In my personal opinion your post is true in way too much descriptive way. So you just made self inside troubles.

In my country there is a quote:
"Give a horse to guy so he can run away as he speaks true"....how about a space ship instead of a horse.


Could you rephrase that? It didn't really come across well.
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#245 - 2012-05-08 15:28:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Doctor Ungabungas
Maeltstome wrote:
The problem is though that a simple database query can reveal un-tapped high-yield moons anywhere in eve really, and although this is a much more subtle form of exploitation (and only 1 of many) it's still just as lucrative.


Why would you think database interaction like that wouldn't be logged and flagged for review? In places where I've worked, even just logging into certain databases raises alarms that need to be acknowledged.

But I'm completely sure that everyone at CCP can just log onto the production database whenever they feel like it with no sort of monitoring in place.

PS: A better solution than a simple database query is offering a 100m isk bounty for each money moon found.
David Cedarbridge
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#246 - 2012-05-08 15:46:19 UTC
I find it rather amusing that when suggestions are put forth by CFC members on the CSM or made by CFC members through reps on the CSM (and lo and behold, they benefit people other than CFC members too~) that this is some sort of sign of favoritism and not the system of suggest and receive working as intended.

Everyone whining about tech moons must have a short memory over the 30~ times that The Mittani himself pushed for a change in the structure of the tech bottleneck. Waving your arms and saying "but it hasn't happened yet" is pretty childish on face. I'd suggest making up your minds. Either we have CCP by the balls and they buy into all of our demands or they don't. If they aren't nerfing the tech that we have been petitioning them to fix, then clearly they don't take their marching orders from us.

I do find it rather funny the hate boner that some of these people have for the CFC for whatever reason so they can only see new things being added to the game (like the Tornados I personally love flying outside of fleets or in small gangs) as some sort of gift only to one group or another. If that were the case, I wouldn't have lost that one ratting drake to a Talos jumping into my anom.
David Cedarbridge
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#247 - 2012-05-08 15:47:50 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
"Soundwaffe".

Christ Roll

Wear it with pride Sir!
Hroya
#248 - 2012-05-08 15:59:32 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
"Soundwaffe".

Christ Roll



Actually i think it's a cool name. Do i refference it to some sort of organisation ? Nop. It's just a name.
A label doesnt dictate the contence.

My third name is Adolf. It was my uncles name who died in ww2. I wear it with pride. Poor sob shot himself in a bunker in Berlin and .. err .. oops!... nop ..that wasnt him. I mean he did die in ww2 but under completely different circumstances and was just an ordinairy child.

Dont worrie about such labels, someone who is labeled an idiot but is happy with his life can just shrug such labels off.

You go your corridor but.

Enuen Ravenseye
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#249 - 2012-05-08 16:00:01 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
The problem is though that a simple database query can reveal un-tapped high-yield moons anywhere in eve really, and although this is a much more subtle form of exploitation (and only 1 of many) it's still just as lucrative.


Or you could just go to Dotlan - you know, the very public website - and look up all that info for free.

Or do Goons somehow control Dotlan now too? My God, it's a conspiracy at the highest levels - Goons now control public websites as well as CCP! Is there no end to their power????

I bet those bastards are tied up with the world economic crisis too.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#250 - 2012-05-08 16:03:04 UTC
David Cedarbridge wrote:
I do find it rather funny the hate boner that some of these people have for the CFC for whatever reason so they can only see new things being added to the game (like the Tornados I personally love flying outside of fleets or in small gangs) as some sort of gift only to one group or another..

Mmm, a hate boner ... great image there.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#251 - 2012-05-08 16:03:55 UTC
Didn't read the thread but I'll just throw this in here.

Devs have access to every bit of information in the game. They know me. They know if I'm alt boosting a thread. They know which other accts are on my credit card. They know which other accts are linked to my email. They know which corps all my characters are in.

In other words, they know every spy in the game. This can be a big temptation for a DEV in a large alliance and information that can be given with no risk to his job.

That is one example. There are dozens of ways the game can be skewed without real life risk to someone with no morals. And let's face it... no morals is the cornerstone of this game. This should rightfully be a concern to regular players.

Mr Epeen Cool
Josef Djugashvilis
#252 - 2012-05-08 16:04:35 UTC
This really needs to stop.

If anyone thinks they have evidence of wrong doing by any member of CCP staff, then they should use the appropriate channel to deal with the matter.

Simply bad mouthing the folk who provide us with the game we all choose to play in a public forum, is not worthy of the player base and is unfair to CCP.

This is not a signature.

Dray Cil
Zi-Zi's Asylum
Red Dragon Federation
#253 - 2012-05-08 16:06:21 UTC
I'm starting to remember why I quit the game after 2 years of play 2005-2007. The whole dev-inside-BoB controversy (especially when I was in the middle of the nullsec wars) pissed me off so much I ragequit.

Came back in february of this year (new character) and I'm hearing the same old **** again. I had hopes with the "internal affairs" dept. but even that is corrupt.

Dray

o.O

Dray Cil
Zi-Zi's Asylum
Red Dragon Federation
#254 - 2012-05-08 16:07:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Dray Cil
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
This really needs to stop.

If anyone thinks they have evidence of wrong doing by any member of CCP staff, then they should use the appropriate channel to deal with the matter.

Simply bad mouthing the folk who provide us with the game we all choose to play in a public forum, is not worthy of the player base and is unfair to CCP.


How to stop such threads? a DEV POST clarifying the matter!

BRILLIANT!

Dray

o.O

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#255 - 2012-05-08 16:10:29 UTC
Hroya wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
"Soundwaffe".

Christ Roll



Actually i think it's a cool name. Do i refference it to some sort of organisation ? Nop. It's just a name.
A label doesnt dictate the contence.

My third name is Adolf. It was my uncles name who died in ww2. I wear it with pride. Poor sob shot himself in a bunker in Berlin and .. err .. oops!... nop ..that wasnt him. I mean he did die in ww2 but under completely different circumstances and was just an ordinairy child.

Dont worrie about such labels, someone who is labeled an idiot but is happy with his life can just shrug such labels off.



Yeah it's not that he's being linked to a certain unitesticular middle european dictator, but that he's being linked to Goonwaffe.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Josef Djugashvilis
#256 - 2012-05-08 16:11:29 UTC
Dray Cil wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
This really needs to stop.

If anyone thinks they have evidence of wrong doing by any member of CCP staff, then they should use the appropriate channel to deal with the matter.

Simply bad mouthing the folk who provide us with the game we all choose to play in a public forum, is not worthy of the player base and is unfair to CCP.


How to stop such threads? a DEV POST clarifying the matter!
BRILLIANT!

Dray


Firstly, I wish I was as Dev.Big smile

Secondly, if I was, I would ban anyone making unfounded allegations in a public forum.Smile

CCP needs this like a hole in the head.

This is not a signature.

Dray Cil
Zi-Zi's Asylum
Red Dragon Federation
#257 - 2012-05-08 16:14:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Dray Cil
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Dray Cil wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
This really needs to stop.

If anyone thinks they have evidence of wrong doing by any member of CCP staff, then they should use the appropriate channel to deal with the matter.

Simply bad mouthing the folk who provide us with the game we all choose to play in a public forum, is not worthy of the player base and is unfair to CCP.


How to stop such threads? a DEV POST clarifying the matter!
BRILLIANT!

Dray


Firstly, I wish I was as Dev.Big smile

Secondly, if I was, I would ban anyone making unfounded allegations in a public forum.Smile

CCP needs this like a hole in the head.


Duhrr....Like I was actually insinuating that you were a dev in the first place.

(that was sarcasm if you didn't get it yet...)

o.O

Josef Djugashvilis
#258 - 2012-05-08 16:19:00 UTC
Dray Cil wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Dray Cil wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
This really needs to stop.

If anyone thinks they have evidence of wrong doing by any member of CCP staff, then they should use the appropriate channel to deal with the matter.

Simply bad mouthing the folk who provide us with the game we all choose to play in a public forum, is not worthy of the player base and is unfair to CCP.


How to stop such threads? a DEV POST clarifying the matter!
BRILLIANT!

Dray


Firstly, I wish I was as Dev.Big smile

Secondly, if I was, I would ban anyone making unfounded allegations in a public forum.Smile

CCP needs this like a hole in the head.


Duhrr....Like I was actually insinuating that you were a dev in the first place.

(that was sarcasm if you didn't get it yet...)



Sorry, was an attempt to be funny on my partWhat?

This is not a signature.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#259 - 2012-05-08 16:19:02 UTC
Man I wish I had bought tinfoil futures back in the day

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Hroya
#260 - 2012-05-08 16:21:23 UTC
Malcanis wrote:


Yeah it's not that he's being linked to a certain unitesticular middle european dictator, but that he's being linked to Goonwaffe.



I did get that, i was mearly throwing in some mildly funny association example.
But regardless, the name sounds cool Smile

You go your corridor but.