Warfare & Tactics

You think being forced to quit or use neutral alts in lowsec is perfectly fine? I don't know much about Gal/Cal space, but both of the major minmatar alliances currently live in systems that are "Amarrian Sov" but have been occupied by us for ages. Does this stupid change mean that we're all ****** just because it's still "Amarr Sov" even though we've lived in and owned these systems for months and months?

The total system station lockout is a load of ballocs and must not go through for the sake of militia. If it does (even if a few small parties think its the best thing ever) I promise it will be the end of FW as we know it today.

I'm glad to see there are still people out there stupid enough to think being forced to use neutral alts and/or being forced to quit the very game mechanic that's being 'updated' is a good idea.

Please don't breed.

So it appears to be the exact same plexing mechanic.

Hey, how often are plexing rewards given out? I did two offensive minors in an enemy system and I haven't been compensated.

So we can't dock in enemy occupied FW space, but can in their hi-sec?

Am I reading this right?

Ok, so those bolded parts there means I don't have to be in FW to reap the benefits of occupancy?

So can someone tell me again the reason for staying in the Militia as opposed to leaving and setting our standings/war deccing manually and act as true privateers? Just put a bunch of plexing alts in a separate corp, join militia and stick them in cloaky t1 frigs to capture plexes and fight with impunity on our "neutral" mains. I'd rather take the chance of fighting the occational fight under gate guns as opposed to not being able to dock tbh. Plus, no gateguns in plexes...

I predict the pve will give you mad amounts of lp. I intend to give it a fair shake, but it looks like the best bet will be to put your pvp characters in a neutral corp and have your pve alts in fw.

A dedicated core of players can flip a system in about 8 hours from start to finish if there are no plexes piled up. Sooner if there are. Want faster?

Hate to rain on Hans' parade, but everyone was/is against it. It works in blob-land largely due to sov. being a linchpin for just about anything worth undocking for, numbers (pilots, income, et al) are considerably larger and they are drowning in bubbles and capitals.

Probably what they were thinking when the brain-fart oozed out .. but as with all such things it won't work. That kind of system works if sides are roughly equal (see every FPS made the last ten years) but here the various sides are insanely unbalanced;
On Caldari/Gallente front you have a huge number disparity and no amount of Gallente uber-ness can fight against 4-5x the numbers for a prolonged period of time = Gallente gets to sit in highsec.
On Amarr/Matar front numbers are roughly equal but with very distinct timezones, layout of the area is so immensely in the insurgents favour as to make it a foregone conclusion = Amarr gets to sit in highsec after a long but ultimately futile fight.

And that is before taking into account the potential abuse by null-monkeys .. enlist an alt corp, dump all their LP into a few systems and use it as the alliances private FarmVille, blob the snot out of anything threatening it (neutrals are to get full benefit of upgrades apparently ).

Station lock-out will break infinitely more than it will solve, but since it is probably merely a tick-box in the database it doesn't require work to implement and is thus highly favoured in Iceland

Enough to be able to outblob any opposition in the high-value plexes .. can be anywhere from 5-50 depending on timezone/holidays/activity. Station ping-pong was among one of the most hated things in the old null sov system, now we get to experience its revival.

By the way, since we already have LP-for-Kills and they mention it as a feature I take it the amount will be bumped significantly .. prep your alts for exploitation. With LP scored by repeatedly killing an alt and the LP raked in ninja capping plexes in the ass-end of the universe the navy market is guaranteed to be at its current level (ie. rock-bottom) well into next year.

PS: CCP has not managed to make a single change to FW without introducing one or more at times crippling bugs, so be on the lookout for hilarity such as the classic cloaking capture, victims getting LP for dying, stations firing on people rather than just locking them out, sovereignty inadvertently changing rather than occupancy etc.
Personally love when FW gets "fixed" as it means I get to be bug-hunter for a week!

The real question is whether or not implementing this feature will lead to more fights. Will we readjust our in-game priorities so that we bring more fights to the plexes. Do we engage the other side when we have a lower chance of winning than before the patch?

Will we decide that keeping sovereignty is more important than fighs and therefore we roflblob plexes - reducing the chance of a fight but increasing our ability to hold our system?

My guess is we'll see a flurry of plex fighting activity the first month this new system is out, and then one side (Gallente) will gain some dominance and then the other side (Caldari) will flee to high sec to keep their assets safe. As they flee, lucrative mission systems will fall, and many of them will either leave FW forever, or will spend significant time outside of FW areas making isk. Fewer targets long term means fewer fights long term.

I can't wait because then maybe all those millions of LP's I have stashed away will finally be worth something again when all the mission farming alts get locked out of the stations.. I can't wait to see them all join Galentte & Minmatar.. So please dO IT as it will make me very space rich.



In fact I tried to float the idea of letting you Gals take all Caldari systems now when they mean nothing so we could go get rich taking them when it paid LP's to do so.. Sadly I couldn't get much support on this idea..