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So why is CCP supporting the Burn Jita event?

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Kyle Yanowski
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#181 - 2012-04-30 12:55:17 UTC
Some good posts, some bad posts in this thread. If you are going to waste your ime posting something with the word "tears" move on please. Think the word TRITE comes to mind.

cheers.

Host of the High Drag Eve Online Podcast ( http://highdrag.wordpress.com). Director of Aideron Robotics.
Aversun
Systems Federation
#182 - 2012-04-30 12:55:28 UTC
As a part-time carebear, i find little to be concerned about in the scouring of Jita. Most of my corp/alliance mates only go there if its a absolute necessity.

"That which was burned, will grow anew."
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#183 - 2012-04-30 13:00:47 UTC
Kurai Kihaku wrote:
SNIP




You are trying to apply logic to a group of people whose mindset and actions are not rational at all.

Best to have some Hot Chocolate, Relax, and Adapt.

If you had read any of the history of EVE's development, it was designed with a degree of griefing sPECIFICALLY built in.

Alter that and you have another game entirely.

And as much of a High Sec miner/industrialist as I am, I would be OUT OF HERE if these things stopped.

Better to focus your actions on the game's real issue: RMT and Botting.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#184 - 2012-04-30 13:09:32 UTC
You can't stop jita no matter how hard you try.


"Burn jita" Pfft. Hardly.



What is OP even whining about? Nothing happened.
Action Danger
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#185 - 2012-04-30 13:12:11 UTC
Kurai Kihaku wrote:


I can directly compare what is happening in EVE to a cable company. Let's say thousands of people are watching TV and their favorite channel gets blocked.

Suddenly a malignant individual decides to hack into the cable network, and blocks this channel. Off course at this point the cable company would try to do whatever they can to track down and deal with this individual.

But what's happening in EVE is more like, the cable company saying "Hmm.. This is interesting... all these people..They are so boring, laying on their couch watching movies.. Let' add a little something into their lives. Let's make them cry and scream with anger because they lack in diversity of emotions. Lets conduct a social experiment of sorts and let this hacker continue what he is doing.... "




No.

You are completely misunderstanding the whole point of this.


And care bears in highsec are ******* over the game. CCP knows this. What is interesting is if they did anything about it, it would dramatically change the game to where it is no longer a sandbox. Highsec Carebears have slowly patch after patch changed the game because they dont like that they are not 100 percent safe somewhere. Its ******* space. It is the style of the game. They tell you this constantly.

Also learn the difference between them supporting the event and allowing it. They allow it because the mechanic is there and everything is working as intended.
Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#186 - 2012-04-30 13:13:41 UTC
Quote:
So why is CCP supporting the Burn Jita event?


Because it's the sandbox working as intended.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#187 - 2012-04-30 13:39:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Action Danger wrote:

And care bears in highsec are ******* over the game. CCP knows this. Highsec Carebears have slowly patch after patch changed the game because they dont like that they are not 100 percent safe somewhere.



Oh, that's right.

Things like the Boomerang Exploit shoud NEVER be corrected. Jesus......I smell panicked desperation.Roll

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Enuen Ravenseye
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#188 - 2012-04-30 13:44:53 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Nobody can play the game how they like if the Goons are preventing them from playing that way.


What part of PvP are you not grasping? The entire basis of a PvP-centric game - which Eve is, regardless of any arguments you may try to make - is to prevent others from playing the game how they would like. You know, by killing them and ****.

If you didn't realize that Eve is a PvP game when you signed up, perhaps you should apply for a refund and then find a non-PvP game that is to your liking.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#189 - 2012-04-30 13:46:50 UTC
Enuen Ravenseye wrote:
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Nobody can play the game how they like if the Goons are preventing them from playing that way.


What part of PvP are you not grasping? The entire basis of a PvP-centric game - which Eve is, regardless of any arguments you may try to make - is to prevent others from playing the game how they would like. You know, by killing them and ****.

If you didn't realize that Eve is a PvP game when you signed up, perhaps you should apply for a refund and then find a non-PvP game that is to your liking.

Funny part, not gonna get a refund Lol

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#190 - 2012-04-30 13:47:04 UTC
Enuen Ravenseye wrote:
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Nobody can play the game how they like if the Goons are preventing them from playing that way.


What part of PvP are you not grasping? The entire basis of a PvP-centric game - which Eve is, regardless of any arguments you may try to make - is to prevent others from playing the game how they would like. You know, by killing them and ****.

If you didn't realize that Eve is a PvP game when you signed up, perhaps you should apply for a refund and then find a non-PvP game that is to your liking.



EVE is a Sandbox. YOU are not understanding. It is NOT PvP, it is NOT PvE.

Until you can grasp that, you are playing a delusion.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Davin Nix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#191 - 2012-04-30 13:52:45 UTC
''Eve isn't designed to look like a cold, harsh and unforgiving world. It's designed to BE a cold, harsh and unforgiving world.'' - Some CCP bloke

i've been in and out of Jita over the last few days and only experienced a little lag. If you're that upset go to Rens, or better still go stockpile until it's all over.

Just quit whinging and adapt, that's what sandboxes are all about
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#192 - 2012-04-30 13:54:14 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Enuen Ravenseye wrote:
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Nobody can play the game how they like if the Goons are preventing them from playing that way.


What part of PvP are you not grasping? The entire basis of a PvP-centric game - which Eve is, regardless of any arguments you may try to make - is to prevent others from playing the game how they would like. You know, by killing them and ****.

If you didn't realize that Eve is a PvP game when you signed up, perhaps you should apply for a refund and then find a non-PvP game that is to your liking.



EVE is a Sandbox. YOU are not understanding. It is NOT PvP, it is NOT PvE.

Until you can grasp that, you are playing a delusion.

EVE is a PVP Sandbox. Its always been very specifically about PVP.

Well, other than Incarna, and we all know how that turned out.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#193 - 2012-04-30 13:57:34 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:

EVE is a PVP Sandbox. Its always been very specifically about PVP.

Well, other than Incarna, and we all know how that turned out.



You

just

don't

get

it.

God, you guys are so brainwashed. I see how easily Western Civilization WILL fall to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat. This is very revealing.

Brainwashing really really works.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Rimase
#194 - 2012-04-30 13:57:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Rimase
/ignore thread

CCP support to diminish all manufactured things, all highly encouraged by 'botters', in an effort to support a restabilizing of economy, which I thoroughly believe is suppose to be a non-bot player-economy. AMIRITE?

Looking to join Caldari Faction Warfare corporation!
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#195 - 2012-04-30 14:01:56 UTC
well unlikes the previous incidents of tanking or evading concord those who are getting nailed in jita burn are all dying as supposed to work out.

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Davin Nix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#196 - 2012-04-30 14:09:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Davin Nix
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:

EVE is a PVP Sandbox. Its always been very specifically about PVP.

Well, other than Incarna, and we all know how that turned out.



You

just

don't

get

it.

God, you guys are so brainwashed. I see how easily Western Civilization WILL fall to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat. This is very revealing.

Brainwashing really really works.



That doesn't even make sense... have you not read the 'about' sections on the Eve website? Eve is supposed to be harsh and unforgiving, it's supposed to be dangerous to do things. Otherwise they'd just set it up so ships spontaneously combust whenever they fire a shot off in highsec. Conflict is what drives the game, conflict makes things interesting, without conflict we'd all be sat afk mining... or in my case, not playing the game. Carebears ARE essential to the game, but instead of moaning about how your hulks are getting shot up or you can't get into Jita why not adapt? Go find somewhere out of the way, stockpile minerals and ships. Prices are on the rise so it makes sense to stock up and sell when they peak.
Alternatively, go find a wormhole, keep your eye on your scanner and keep a pos handy for production and a safe haven.

Also if Western civilisation is more likely to 'fall' to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat, why was Hit ler so much less successful than Mao?
Just a thought
Dav

Edit: Stalin too
Edit 2... why is 'Hit ler' censored?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#197 - 2012-04-30 14:12:12 UTC
Davin Nix wrote:
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That doesn't even make sense... have you not read the 'about' sections on the Eve website? Eve is supposed to be harsh and unforgiving, it's supposed to be dangerous to do things. Otherwise they'd just set it up so ships spontaneously combust whenever they fire a shot off in highsec. Conflict is what drives the game, conflict makes things interesting, without conflict we'd all be sat afk mining... or in my case, not playing the game. Carebears ARE essential to the game, but instead of moaning about how your hulks are getting shot up or you can't get into Jita why not adapt? Go find somewhere out of the way, stockpile minerals and ships. Prices are on the rise so it makes sense to stock up and sell when they peak.
Alternatively, go find a wormhole, keep your eye on your scanner and keep a pos handy for production and a safe haven.

Dav


Sorry you wasted so much energy there.

My argument, had you actually really read my posts, is towards those who keep claiming EVE is a PvP game.

Period and final.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Davin Nix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#198 - 2012-04-30 14:18:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Davin Nix
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Davin Nix wrote:
[
That doesn't even make sense... have you not read the 'about' sections on the Eve website? Eve is supposed to be harsh and unforgiving, it's supposed to be dangerous to do things. Otherwise they'd just set it up so ships spontaneously combust whenever they fire a shot off in highsec. Conflict is what drives the game, conflict makes things interesting, without conflict we'd all be sat afk mining... or in my case, not playing the game. Carebears ARE essential to the game, but instead of moaning about how your hulks are getting shot up or you can't get into Jita why not adapt? Go find somewhere out of the way, stockpile minerals and ships. Prices are on the rise so it makes sense to stock up and sell when they peak.
Alternatively, go find a wormhole, keep your eye on your scanner and keep a pos handy for production and a safe haven.

Dav


Sorry you wasted so much energy there.

My argument, had you actually really read my posts, is towards those who keep claiming EVE is a PvP game.

Period and final.


Eve is a PvP game, at least far more PvP focussed than the vast majority of MMOs out there. Sure we have missions, incursions and wormhole sleeper sites. But it's the PvP which makes things interesting, if you had really read my post you'd have noticed the repeated references to 'conflict'. Again, if the game was supposed to be safe and PvP wasn't such a key part of the game we wouldnt be allowed guns in highsec, missions wouldnt be given in lowsec systems and concord response times would be immediate.

My key issue with your post now is the incredible assumption that all western folks are brainwashed which is hilarious.
I spent the last 2 and half years living in China, where the majority of the population literally quote the party line when asked about key issues. Back in England and everyone is moaning about tax, decisions on the olympics and the government in general.
Please try not to pigeonhole us into stereotypes, especially when you clearly haven't got a clue
Dav

p.s. love how you cut that part out of the quote by the way :p
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#199 - 2012-04-30 14:19:38 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:

EVE is a PVP Sandbox. Its always been very specifically about PVP.

Well, other than Incarna, and we all know how that turned out.



You

just

don't

get

it.

God, you guys are so brainwashed. I see how easily Western Civilization WILL fall to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat. This is very revealing.

Brainwashing really really works.

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/80808

Even people who don't play the game know that it falls into the PVP game genre. Why can't you ram that through your head?

Western Civilization is on the brink, but its on the brink due to people who are willfully ignorant of the truth, even when proof is presented.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#200 - 2012-04-30 14:25:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Davin Nix wrote:

My key issue with your post now is the incredible assumption that all western folks are brainwashed which is hilarious.



Talk about creating statements out of thin air.

I said no such thing. And that is provable above in the thread.

I said they were 'easily brainwashed"....which by default implies potential.

I never, not never, said ALL OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS brainwashed.

But the Goons certainly are. And they excellently demonstrate the potential.

Sorry that you read so fast or something that rather important details get missed and then UNTRUE FALSEHOODS posted about what was actually typed.

Better luck next time.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882