EVE General Discussion

Just want to understand the logic behind the game company taking such a stance.

Piracy, scamming, and griefing, all that I understand. But what is happenign with the "Burn Jita" event is completely different.

I want to know why CCP feels that even thought I pay my $15/mo just like the members of the GF they can do whatever they want, and I cannot. (Example: Going to Jita when GF feels I shouldn't.)

I think that EVE's biggest strength is also it's biggest weakness. It has become a little too much like RL. In ALL mmos, there is nothing a powerful corp, or a guild can do to prevent other people from playing the game any way they like. They may have the best items/gear... the most friends... the most influence.... but there is absolutely nothing allowing the more powerful players to interfere with, or hinder in anyway the game-play of others.

I can directly compare what is happening in EVE to a cable company. Let's say thousands of people are watching TV and their favorite channel gets blocked.

Suddenly a malignant individual decides to hack into the cable network, and blocks this channel. Off course at this point the cable company would try to do whatever they can to track down and deal with this individual.

But what's happening in EVE is more like, the cable company saying "Hmm.. This is interesting... all these people..They are so boring, laying on their couch watching movies.. Let' add a little something into their lives. Let's make them cry and scream with anger because they lack in diversity of emotions. Lets conduct a social experiment of sorts and let this hacker continue what he is doing.... "

Really, I think CCP is giving GF a little too much credit, allowing them to be the force of nature in EVE. The Yang that comes with the Yin, the spoon of tar in the barrel of honey, the black stripe in a pattern of white and black stripes... Well you get the point.

If CCP feels we need a little "spice" in our life, then why not alter those Sansha invasions to go directly into Jita or Amarr, or Rens or whatever... or program NPC pirates to go after mining ships at random times. Who the hell appointed GF to decide when the carebears have been having a too calm a life and need to be "shaken up a bit"?

Honestly I think those who chose the carebear gameplay style are already punished enough. They are essentially blocked out of all the fun gameplay elements. They cannot have access to best loot, they cannot mine the best ore, they cannot roam the world of eve without getting blown up as soon as they step out of their little fenced pen. But they are not choked enough... Lets tighten the noose some more, right?! Wrong.... Press this group of people too hard, and you got no one to grief anymore. No one to block. No one to make cry...

In a sense, this whole thing reminds me of our society, the extreme respect and admiration for professions such as doctors or lawyers and the complete lack of that same respect for those in lower professions. But wait.... We need these people! If no one was flipping burgers, no one was cleaning out the garbage, etc, etc... What kind of the world would be be living in?

Carebears fill an essential role in EVE. Without them, EVE would be missing a lot of what makes it great.

I believe that the best game, is one where people can choose to play any way they like. If you want to be a boring carebear, be a boring carebear. If you want to be a vicious pirate, be one. But the two should not be mixed forcefully because that ruins the gameplay experience for those that do not want to PvP. (there's lowsec and 0.0 for that!) Don't these people also pay the $15/mo fee? And if they do, why is it that they don't deserve to play EVE any way they like without being interrupted?




And what the hell do you stand for Kristof? People making other people's life miserable?



You "think".... I "think" it would be "healthy" for EVE if the Goons lost a lot of their power, but they are losing nothing aside from their ships an a small part of their wealth, while the Carebears are losing everything.

CCP supports it because it pisses people like you off.

Also, too bad for the carebears that are only good at accumulating wealth.

~Devswarm Federation~ follow the clues ~

This post is why we kill you.
CCP supports us.
People flock to join EVE and pay $15/month.

The problem is with you.

Few days of suicide ganking and you feel the need to cry in public?

Go diaf...ingame of course

I don't think you understand Eve. Look at your quote "Don't these people also pay the $15/mo fee? And if they do, why is it that they don't deserve to play EVE any way they like without being interrupted?"

No. You pay $15 to play Eve how you like, just like Goons pay $15 to play Eve how they like, which is what makes the game worth playing.

Yes you can do whatever you want, but you're too busy thinking you should be wrapped in cotton wool and have your hand held to go out and do it.

I was in Jita just yesterday, sat near the undock watching what was going on. I didn't feel that Jita was 'off limits' to me in any way.

Since Stoffer is an Ex-Goon he could be easily convinced to advocate this little event with a few free beers during Fanfest.

Burn Jita, hulkageddon and other events are the reason why EVE is the best MMO on the market. You cant do anyting close to this in other MMO's (Burn Stormwind?)

That said - Burn Jita doesnt bother me, cause I dont buy from Jita unless I just HAVE to.

Greetings capsuleer,

Welcome to New Eden. This is a harsh and cold universe where the weak wake up in clones until they tire of this life. I am curious though; why do you believe your way of life in New Eden should be enforced on others when you are unhappy that others try to enforce their way on you?

Are you that which you seem to despise?

In any event - you have control over your own destiny. You are an immortal roaming these stars. Your response is in your hands. You can complain. You can turn it around and fight back. You can do whatever you desire. You simply need to take the initiative.

Good luck and regards,

Shian Yang