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So why is CCP supporting the Burn Jita event?

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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-04-29 23:04:06 UTC
Staying out of the event =/= supporting it

I'm not a fan of this event and I'm as carebear as they come. But I don't think this even was sponsored by CCP in any way, shape, or form; at least, I think it wasn't.

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.

Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-04-29 23:08:41 UTC
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I want to know why CCP feels that even thought I pay my $15/mo just like the members of the GF they can do whatever they want, and I cannot. (Example: Going to Jita when GF feels I shouldn't.)


The bigger question is why shouldn't they be allowed to. Jita isn't anything super special, it is just a main trade hub. There are tons of other places to do business and this is only effective while they have ships, and not sustainable. Took lots of isk and prep to pull it off. You can do what you want, just remember it is a sandbox, so you need to fly appropriately. WIth risk comes reward. Playing the solo game, gotta play it solo style.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-04-29 23:17:38 UTC
Kurai Kihaku wrote:
I'm mad as heck and I want CCP to do something about the Goons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HTFU, GTFO, or STFU and play the game. There you go, three choices, enjoy the sandbox.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

Koby Botick
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-04-29 23:19:58 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Staying out of the event =/= supporting it

I'm not a fan of this event and I'm as carebear as they come. But I don't think this even was sponsored by CCP in any way, shape, or form; at least, I think it wasn't.



A birdie told me that some CCP employees have to pull extra shifts to deal with petitions. But then I go to eve-o forums and I read that there was absolutely nothing happening and so I can go to bed calm and without a bad conscience.
Flakey Foont
#45 - 2012-04-29 23:22:26 UTC
People whine when there are no in-game events. Ever notice that all MMOs have a disclaimer that content may change?
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#46 - 2012-04-29 23:27:32 UTC
Burn Jita was announced a long time.

If you don't have the common sense to avoid Jita and surroundings you deserve to get your ship popped from under you.
You want to limit your gameplay to Jita and surroundings, fine. Then also accept the consequences.

We will use the other 7500+ systems to play in.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#47 - 2012-04-29 23:32:26 UTC
Koby Botick wrote:
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Staying out of the event =/= supporting it

I'm not a fan of this event and I'm as carebear as they come. But I don't think this even was sponsored by CCP in any way, shape, or form; at least, I think it wasn't.

A birdie told me that some CCP employees have to pull extra shifts to deal with petitions. But then I go to eve-o forums and I read that there was absolutely nothing happening and so I can go to bed calm and without a bad conscience.

And one of them even made a (humorous) tweet about not wanting that weekend anyway ~

Hope they get some rest after Jita stops burning or whatever state it is in now. Must've been a lot of work.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Mr Stow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2012-04-29 23:34:07 UTC
Roll

I'm hugely invested in hi-sec operations, but.... technically, Goon isn't doing anything that is not allowed. It's up to the universe as constructed, and those of us in it to adapt. If we can. Before you get too upset with ccp here, think what is being learned about the game dynamics. If I were at ccp, the last thing on earth i'd do at this moment would be to try to micro-manage this event without first seeing what impact it will have. Goon isn't the only thing going on here. There are plenty of people, including care-bears who are looking for ways to exploit this. Nothing happens in a vaccuum. I suspect the outcome is going to do more to confound it's architects than gratify them.
Max Khaos
Republic Military School
#49 - 2012-04-29 23:35:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Khaos
They do it because CCP turns a blind eye as per normal to them. It would be nice to know how many devs have a Goon alt account !!!

For you all telling people Eve is a sandbox and live with it you have a very short memory ...


CCP Does get invloved ........ for example ..

M0o in low sec and empire .... you end up with gate guns....

Tank CEO with a Scorpion with 99% resistance ..... you end up with concord and staking pentalties.

The Privateers and War Decs .................... War Dec system nerfed.


They pay attention when only they want too and let a special few do whatever they want .... i.e. someones Fanfest speech and
something about killing someone.

Say no more. But maybe a sandbox should be just that and not biased.
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Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#50 - 2012-04-29 23:40:00 UTC
How is "the sandbox is not biased against Goons" even remotely equivalent to "it's only fair if the sandbox is biased against Goons."

At least, that's what I think you're trying to say through all your .... .. .. . . . . . . . .. . DOT DOOTODOTODOTs.

(Anyone else hear Rainman's voice when reading Max Khaos's post? Just sayin'.)
Max Khaos
Republic Military School
#51 - 2012-04-29 23:42:38 UTC
There is no difference from M0o sitting at a gate and Tank CEo sitting in high sec killing people.

They got nerfed ... enough said .. learn some Eve History ..

As I said .. Biased ....
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2012-04-29 23:43:31 UTC
uh oh
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#53 - 2012-04-29 23:44:08 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Jita isn't anything super special, it is just a main trade hub.

Not just that, but its the main trade hub because of players, not because CCP said so. Can't even use Stormwind as an analogy like alot of people do.

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James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#54 - 2012-04-29 23:46:39 UTC
Kurai Kihaku wrote:
I believe that the best game, is one where people can choose to play any way they like.
(proceeds to explain why people shouldn't be allowed to shoot spaceships in Jita)

That's is a perfect encapsulation of the highsec miners' idea of a "sandbox."

Andski wrote:
So CCP should step in, stop everyone from having fun, including us, the guys that wardecced us, the guys whoring on GCC killmails, and everyone else who is taking part in this in some way or another - just so that you can do your little freighter run?
Kurai Kihaku, I'd like you to answer that question.
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#55 - 2012-04-29 23:49:51 UTC
Max Khaos wrote:
There is no difference from M0o sitting at a gate and Tank CEo sitting in high sec killing people.

They got nerfed ... enough said .. learn some Eve History ..

As I said .. Biased ....


Can you just do something for me? Just one quick thing.

Say "Wapner." Just once. Please?

Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-04-29 23:54:44 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Burn Jita was announced a long time.

If you don't have the common sense to avoid Jita and surroundings you deserve to get your ship popped from under you.
You want to limit your gameplay to Jita and surroundings, fine. Then also accept the consequences.

We will use the other 7500+ systems to play in.


In all fairness, having to F5 the forums everyday should not be a requirement. I know it pains most of you, but a good portion of the players believe that to play the game is to start the client and well... play the game. Not F5 forums all day everyday and then maybe log in once in a while.

I am not saying the Jita thing is bad or Hulkaggedon; just trying to explain to you that hanging out on the forums should not be a requirement to the game.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#57 - 2012-04-29 23:55:55 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Killer Gandry wrote:
Burn Jita was announced a long time.

If you don't have the common sense to avoid Jita and surroundings you deserve to get your ship popped from under you.
You want to limit your gameplay to Jita and surroundings, fine. Then also accept the consequences.

We will use the other 7500+ systems to play in.


In all fairness, having to F5 the forums everyday should not be a requirement. I know it pains most of you, but a good portion of the players believe that to play the game is to start the client and well... play the game. Not F5 forums all day everyday and then maybe log in once in a while.

I am not saying the Jita thing is bad or Hulkaggedon; just trying to explain to you that hanging out on the forums should not be a requirement to the game.

I would say most of us browse while playing, but the EVE forums don't work right in the IGB >.<

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.

Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#58 - 2012-04-29 23:59:11 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Killer Gandry wrote:
Burn Jita was announced a long time.

If you don't have the common sense to avoid Jita and surroundings you deserve to get your ship popped from under you.
You want to limit your gameplay to Jita and surroundings, fine. Then also accept the consequences.

We will use the other 7500+ systems to play in.


In all fairness, having to F5 the forums everyday should not be a requirement. I know it pains most of you, but a good portion of the players believe that to play the game is to start the client and well... play the game. Not F5 forums all day everyday and then maybe log in once in a while.

I am not saying the Jita thing is bad or Hulkaggedon; just trying to explain to you that hanging out on the forums should not be a requirement to the game.


The Jita thing has not only been discussed on the forums, but on other sites and in numerous in-game chat channels. I'm willing to bet that most of our victims so far have been aware of what we were doing, but either thought that we were only blowing smoke, or that CCP would step in to lessen our impact - I don't know. Anybody who is using ignorance as an excuse after more than a month of this event being discussed publicly needs to stop living in a cave.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Aggressive Nutmeg
#59 - 2012-04-29 23:59:11 UTC
CCP support it because any press for the game is good press.

Also, they know it has absolutely no effect on the game whatsoever.

Eve might be a sandbox but you can stand in the middle and touch the walls on all sides. There's really not much anyone can do to break CCP's rat lab.

I did end up flying by Jita to have a quick look. After podding a couple of goons - and sending one of my alts to hell - I became bored and left.

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.

Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#60 - 2012-04-30 00:01:05 UTC
Andski wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Killer Gandry wrote:
Burn Jita was announced a long time.

If you don't have the common sense to avoid Jita and surroundings you deserve to get your ship popped from under you.
You want to limit your gameplay to Jita and surroundings, fine. Then also accept the consequences.

We will use the other 7500+ systems to play in.


In all fairness, having to F5 the forums everyday should not be a requirement. I know it pains most of you, but a good portion of the players believe that to play the game is to start the client and well... play the game. Not F5 forums all day everyday and then maybe log in once in a while.

I am not saying the Jita thing is bad or Hulkaggedon; just trying to explain to you that hanging out on the forums should not be a requirement to the game.


The Jita thing has not only been discussed on the forums, but on other sites and in numerous in-game chat channels. I'm willing to bet that most of our victims so far have been aware of what we were doing, but either thought that we were only blowing smoke, or that CCP would step in to lessen our impact - I don't know. Anybody who is using ignorance as an excuse after more than a month of this event being discussed publicly needs to stop living in a cave.

Lets not forget the giant notice on the login screen.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.