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Silly new player mistakes and how to avoid them

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gargars
Willco Inc.
#101 - 2011-09-18 17:01:47 UTC
I learned early on when in a fleet ships on the overview can be 'tagged' with numbers/letters so people in the fleet know what to concentrate on and in what order (or not).

Well after three years it dawned on me even if alone, you can invite yourself to fleet and basically create a one-man fleet, then - yup - you can use tags just for yourself! Great for marking spawn trigger ships when running missions or marking containers in radar sites etc without losing track.
Delta Jax
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2011-09-18 17:20:31 UTC
Auto Pilot is not the only way to get to a destination, it should only be used when afk'n and only when you not carrying valuable stuff. Manually warping to a stargate and jumping is about 100x faster then auto pilot.

Never turn on autopilot if route goes through low/null sec. you will die, and most likely be podded.


If a mission is in lowsec, just understand that being in a mission area does not equal safety, people there are usually far better equipped, more skilled, and can probe you out faster than you think. But if you insist, keep directional scanner open and learn to hit the scan button every other second to watch for probes, if you see those it's time to GTFO



Also, I've seen this a few times, if you go into lowsec and there are people at the gate and they don't attack you, this does not mean they are friendly and you can go ratting.



When roaming, superior numbers does not always = WIN, a small gang of people who know what they are doing or have an ace up their sleeve can usually push a 30 man fleet off the field or draw 1/2 away from the main group and kill them one at a time. If you get into corps that all they do is blob, you'll never learn how to actually PvP, get 3-4 people and learn to work together.. pvp is a lot more enjoyable.

Twitter :  @DeltaJax

DarkAssasain
Black Hole Drifters
Drifters.
#103 - 2011-09-18 19:08:40 UTC  |  Edited by: DarkAssasain
If you want to learn how to PVP no better way then baptism under fire! I was in a pvp corp and null sec with a week and was a great experience. If you want to try pvp, but arent willing or not ready to go to null sec first there is the faction warfare for starters. The biggest thing ive seen new players do is once they see another player whether in there corp or in the space lanes in a shiny new ship like a Battleship they immediately skill for it and then loose it. My best advice for this work on your core skills first and save you the drama of DIAF. That is all! Bear
DrDan21
Perkone
Caldari State
#104 - 2011-09-18 19:37:39 UTC  |  Edited by: DrDan21
Get out of your comfort zone and try something with some more in-game risk.

Back when I started playing I was scooped up by a mining alliance as I undocked from the noobie station. They taught me how to mine and such but it wasn't until I met a pilot (who unfortunately no longer player :'( ) Who taught me the basics of PvP

Basically he taught me this
1. Sometimes you are going to die, get over it.
2. You need to stay calm, every second counts and if you freeze up you lose
3. Never do an arranged 1v1 with someone you don't know
4. There is no such thing as E-Honor don't fall for it
5. Know you ship, know you fitting
6. You see that drake on the gate? The one that's moving? Not even 0.0m/s but a blank velocity field? IT'S BAIT DON'T SHOOT IT!

Most important of all: Never become 'E-leet PeeVeePee scum'
annoing
Chuck Norris Kick Ass Corp
#105 - 2011-09-18 22:07:29 UTC
Nakedandfearless wrote:
Taking sooo long to join a great alliance. I ran missions forever just to pay the deposit to join Goonswarm Federation.

For the new guys you want to run missions or mine as quick as you can save that isk and contact a recruiter and pay the minimal deposit to join the best alliance in the game.

See you in Dek.


This makes me remember all the great scams, rip-offs and general fraudulant behaviour from Goonswarm that has kept me amused for years.
Pro-tip = nothing Goonswarm tells you is true especially concerning them, friendship and the isk you have to pay them...
Keno Skir
#106 - 2011-09-18 23:39:44 UTC
gargars wrote:
I learned early on when in a fleet ships on the overview can be 'tagged' with numbers/letters so people in the fleet know what to concentrate on and in what order (or not).

Well after three years it dawned on me even if alone, you can invite yourself to fleet and basically create a one-man fleet, then - yup - you can use tags just for yourself! Great for marking spawn trigger ships when running missions or marking containers in radar sites etc without losing track.


Wow

Thanks honestly for saving me three years :D
Sean Digsel
Kings of Kill
#107 - 2011-09-19 00:13:21 UTC
do the tutorials, do the sisters of eve arc. Once completed, you should be able to mission without losing ships (unless you get really careless). Check triggers here: http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=missionreports and take out spawns one at a time. Spend some money on your pve ship, and don't rush to get into the next level ship (stick with that frigate til you're crushing level 1's, once you're comfortably running level 2's in a cruiser, you can probably feel free to upgrade to a battlecruiser and take on level 3s, just be careful!)

You should have some decent isk rolling in after the first week. Start buying a ton of rifters(merlins, punishers, whatever) and go out and pvp. Fit these ships cheaply, until you know what you're doing. You're going to die alot. You'll also learn a lot.

Find a training corp, or just a corp with likeminded members. Make friends. Even if the corporation doesn't turn out to be something you want to stick around in, hopefully you'll find some people to fly with (whether you're into pvp, running missions, mining or exploration you'll have more fun in a group)
Travis117
Something Went Wrong
Deepwater Hooligans
#108 - 2011-09-19 02:23:36 UTC
ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS watch local if you are in a corporation under a war dec.. i spent 5m good isk at the time for when i started on an osprey for mining and got cloaked jumped in a belt from a pilgrim.... lost all my stuff corp member saved me and got me the isk back.

Play it smart think before you act you are not invincible!
Shinzann
Beast Cat Industries
#109 - 2011-09-19 05:12:26 UTC
In no particular order, bits of wisdom I've learned over the years...

1. Only fly what you can afford to lose (I'm probably the tenth person to say that in this thread alone, btw)
1.1: Assume your ship won't be making it back and insure properly.
2. Always keep your clone up to date.
3. Always have something training.
4. Ctrl+r reloads your mods that uses charges and ammo. Ctrl+left click locks target in overview. Holding down Ctrl locks your overview so you don't "accidentally" target the wrong thing.
5. PvP in EVE is completely consensual. You gave your consent when you clicked the Connect button after typing in your password.
6. Avoid Rancer and Amamake if you don't like getting podded.
7. SP != skill
xp3ll3d
The Southern Legion
#110 - 2011-09-19 05:58:53 UTC
Travel tips:
Using autopilot will make you land 15km off the gate, meaning you need to burn towards the gate wasting time.

Set your final destination, then in your overview the gate for the next system you need to travel to will be yellow. Click it and warp to 0 (or hold down 'D' and click the gate in the overview for a hotkey warp).
Once you land on gate, keep clicking the "jump" button to jump as soon as the servers recognise you are on grid.

Took me a year before I realised that the yellow gate in overview was the next destination.
Another tactic I use. I warp to the gate at 0 and then turn on autopilot. Then I alt-tab to read a webpage. When the ship lands it will automatically jump through for you. You'll hear "jumping" and know to alt-tab back, turn off auto-pilot, warp to 0 to the next gate, turn autopilot back on, and go back to reading your web page.
Saves a lot of time
Yan Skshetuski
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#111 - 2011-09-19 06:12:42 UTC
Always Bookmark the entrance and exit to a wormhole as you go through!!! Enter at your own risk as you would 0.0.
Sil le
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#112 - 2011-09-19 08:06:41 UTC
If you come home drunk from a good night out.........

DO NOT

1) Start Eve
2) Get in your expensive freighter located at your POS in low sec
3) Warp to the gate at 0 forgetting to set the autopilot
4) Fall asleep at the keyboard whilst in warp

.... (some time passes)

5) Wake up to find yourself in a pod with local laughing their arses off Oops
Mason Onyx
Lightening Strikes Down Again
#113 - 2011-09-19 09:06:27 UTC
Not setting bookmarks in a belt and continously coming to a belt wondering why the hell I'm so far away from the rocks. Set bookmarks.
Ishina Fel
CaeIum Incognitum
#114 - 2011-09-19 09:53:32 UTC
It's been said already but bears repeating:

http://www.isktheguide.com/ - You can buy the hardcopy, but you can download the PDF for free.

Together with The Evelopedia, that guide is a great source of information.

Okay, it won't warn you about the Goons, and it won't tell you how to win the annual Alliance Tournament... those things you must figure out yourself. But if you ever wondered what the heck Reverse Engineering is, how you make money with planetary colonies, or how to operate and fuel a jump bridge POS - no matter how obscure the game mechanic, that thing has it covered.
Zey Nadar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2011-09-19 10:17:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Zey Nadar
My advice to new players?

- Don't plan on being a miner (I was in the beginning)
- Aim at joining a player corp from the start, eve is not a solo player game
- Don't be disheartened too easily if you cant find that right corp straight away.
- Do not fear low or nullsec, just pay attention to what ship you go in there with.
- do not use autopilot.
- Take time to set your overview correctly with multiple tabs for whatever you need.
- Don't accept contracts without doublechecking it carefully first
Kim Telkin
Love for You
#116 - 2011-09-19 11:04:25 UTC
Talk to strangers and make friends, from day one!

My biggest mistake was to be so afraid of being scammed that I trusted and talked to no one in game for a month or more. It was a lonely month full of trial and error.

Talk to people in local. Tell them you are a new player. Meet friends. And yes *dont' be afraid of the scams*.

At worst you can loose everything you have. This amounts to a few days worth of playing. At best you can make friends for life.

Reward > Risk !!!


Raneru
Contemplate
#117 - 2011-09-19 12:18:39 UTC
The biggest ship isn't always the most fun to fly.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#118 - 2011-09-19 15:00:12 UTC
Sil le wrote:
If you come home drunk from a good night out.........

DO NOT

1) Start Eve
2) Decide to use your yearly remap to make your Charakter "more charismatic".


There, that´s better.

General rule: Don´t drink and Eve.

Actually, it might be wise to stop drinking althogether while having an active Eve account......

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#119 - 2011-09-19 16:23:58 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
2 things never change in EVE:

nº1 - there is nothing that can substitute a good corp.
nº2 - Murphy's law.


I would add Karma is a ***** and she brings the demon murphy along whenever she travels in EVE. i remember once bragging about how I hadn't lost a boat in the C1 we hang out in a month or so even after half a dozen PVP attempts on my life. Bam, lost two in as many hours on a Friday night.

Which brings me to my lesson learned, don't run sleepers on Friday and Saturday nights in the WH. The Pirates are out in force with their HACs and T3s on these nights. Run the Sleepers Mon-Thur.

That and you cannot kill what you cannot hit but it *can* and will kill you.

PVP HAC vs PVE Geddon = Dead Battleship.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."   --H.L. Mencken
Cerulean Errant
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#120 - 2011-09-19 17:36:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Cerulean Errant
A few things I wish I'd known when I started playing, running missions and other things a long time ago:

- Train your core skills to level 5. I used the certification planner/system as a guide for myself, but just training certain skills to 5 is critical if you're going to get the most out of your ship. Most importantly, maxing out skills such as Energy Management or Shield Management apply across the board to any ship, so there is no reason NOT to train these to level 5.

- Learn how to make your own ammunition. Saves you a lot of money, and gets you into another aspect of the game that is equally interesting (at least for me) as the entire PvE and PvP area of it is.

- Learn how to survive on your own. While joining a corp is good for a number of things, it also helps to learn how to live on your own and survive by your own wits.

- Losing your ship sucks. But it's not the end of the world. I think it's fair to say that a lot of people remember the bad taste in their mouth after they lost their first ship, or lost a ship for a stupid reason. I once lost a ship and I didn't come back for more than a few months. But eventually I came back, because I didn't want such a minor thing to stop me from having fun.