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Balancing the game because of one alliance isn't sustainable either. Just resize your graph and you'll see the changes made by this patch.

I think:
Respawn timers = OK (maybe go harder on these instead of ship changes)
Ship & drone changes = terribad

You'll end up nerfing smaller corps and alliances to a greater extent with ship changes.

32 pages of histrionics...awesome.

Has anyone mentioned that the mineral price index has fallen from just under 120 to about 95 since May 2016, an approximate decline of 21%?

CCP is nerfing mining. "The economy is unhealthy." 32 pages of rage in a week. CCP is nerfing carrier ratting. 51 pages of rage in a day.

CCP thinks the economy is in bad health because of too much isk. You don't nerf rorqs and carrier ratting at the same time. Rorqs account for most of the mining done in New Eden and now they are being nerved because of the bad economy. CCP has not changed a thing, just ruined the amount of isk that is to be made. Since ore has subjective value based on supply and demand, rorqs in the long term won't be too bad off as ore prices rise (Except for the new tears involved in mining). Carrier ratting on the other hand are going to be screwed.

Looks like CCP is delibratly trying to kill it's long-term players.

Hello, This is my first time posting on the Forum and i hope this is the right place for this.

Firstly, I'm a small time miner.
Second, i own 2 Rorquals.
Finally, i hope you give good feedback to me.

My first concern to the drone changes is that the drone velocity changes to an already slow drone will make billions off isk lost to NPC rats. My second concern is that the players will feel that the Risk to Reward ratio is too drastic and that the Rorqual will no longer be used. My final concern is that this drone nerf will not stop the all day Industrial Core miners they will just add more Characters to their fleet to make up for the lost yields.

My suggested Change is that the Industrial Core creates some form of Fatigue after Prolonged use that will greatly diminish the mining yields. The idea i have is that it will function as a sort of Jump Fatigue that will exponentially grow and affect the mining yields of the drones. This ill in turn make the economy balance back out and keep the risk to reward ration as high as possible.


Thank you for your time, i hope that i will get good community feedback.

CCP has put themselves in a position where they MUST reduce the amount of available resources because the players have found a way to become too efficient at harvesting them.

Since the players have access to unlimited resources through accelerated respawn rates, there is no limit on how efficient they can become at harvesting available resources. Without a limit on resources, they will have room for infinite growth and expansion of their harvesting abilities.

The only result possible is inflation. When more resources are entering the game than leaving, we will see inflation. The more efficient the players become at extracting resources, the faster the rates of inflation.

The Eve economy is on the path to crashing.

What tipped the first domino? Skill injectors.

Skill injectors now allow players to create new characters and make them extremely efficient at harvesting resources in practically no time at all. Time was a hard limit on the amount of resources that could be harvested from the game by limiting the efficiency of a character. Now, the game is saturated by brand new, highly productive characters.

The Eve economy is being flooded by resources because the time barrier was removed. If you want the leak to stop, you have to first plug the hole. Remove skill injectors.

Once again me...

Guys whats going on in your brains ?

If the market is going down because of that much isk, generated by Players on a player generated market. Let this bubble explode.

Well we can see Dreadnoughts at a price of 300 million dropping down. Everyone has so much money to get everthing in eve...

So what ?

Drop a new Artifical Intelligence, release Skynet in farming players and shape a new universe (muahahahaha). If the new AI grinding into gear, alliances cannot afford the losses and all the cheap isk, is going to be reduced.

Or what do you planned with the new AI in the Bloodraider Sotiyo and their fleets ?

I would like to see what happens there...

This ^^ is not a silly idea...

You make valid points except the Rorqual was only revamped November, so what was tanking the mineral price the previous 6ish months? And are they nerfing that?

Instead of nerfing null mining (and that is exactly what they are doing) why don't they fix the problem of mineral balance in null ores, preventing the glut of low end (and surplus) minerals making their way into hisec?

It is still a nerf....

And will it accomplish it's goal? Suppose a players go from mining a couple, say, times a week for 3 hours at a time to mining 6 times a week for 1 hour and thereby avoid the fatigue and the negative effect on mining output? We are back where we started.

Haha, CCP is so f*king afraid of people saying their opinions on their "epic" nerfs. The fighter's damage reduction thread had been closed and no more reply could be made again.

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