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Like with empires of RL only history is what survives the time.

The obvious answer to outposts was the one first discussed: just remove all functionality except docking and leave them as historic structures like a disused church or castle. Nobody needed to stir up a storm to promote citadels. In Providence and Dital you can't spit without hitting a dozen citadels. We've embraced them already.

The shame is that CCP say they desperately want to attract new players, but then repeatedly introduce changes that benefit nobody but the same old mega alliances. Providence is almost unique in providing the "null sec experience" to new players. I have over 300 neutral corps and alliances on my access lists and intel channel, and probably the same number of unlisted entities operating in our space. Why break something that is working so well?

This proposal has been described as "The Death of Provi." Well, maybe. I've lived in Provi so long, and seen our death announced so many times, I take it with a pinch of salt. Provi has a habit of not turning up to its own funeral. But yes, it is a threat. A threat to everyone, red grey and blue, who finds so much fun in our systems.

The bigger tragedy is that this may signal "The Death of the Sandbox." The unique selling point of EVE is that content is created by the players, for the players. That's what we've done in Providence. We don't cry when other players drive a bulldozer over us., we accept that kicking the fertiliser out of Provi is part of the game. What we object to is when CCP drive a bulldozer over us and turn the game into yet another theme park.

At least when you log on to World of Warcraft you know it's a theme park. Now in EVE, you spend years building something in what you thought was a sandbox, and then you find you are just pawns - expendable characters - in a story being written by CCP.

Ahh yes everything destructible, I wonder how long it will take PL, NC and the like to deploy to Provi once the new outposts become a potential killmail?
Let the GF's begin - There is nothing quite like Supers vs Caracals for an entertaining evening.
*I know Provi can field more than Caracals, just making a point about how uneven the odds could be*..

Provi won't rollover, it won't fade away, it will lose a great deal of structures that can never be replaced.

As for waiting 3 years to speak up.. Many have been speaking up asking questions for that time, unfortunately (as CCP do) no information was available until they decided it was time. That time was a week ago and it is only now we see just how badly this could go for many groups.

There is still more about this change we don't know than what we do - CCP is keeping most of the specific information close (vulnerability, damage caps, timers and more), possibly because they haven't worked it out yet or because they are waiting for player feedback like Cherri Minoa has been offering.

*Tinfoil hat is close by, not wearing it yet though. I'll wait and see what CCP say next*

Not sure what planet you've been on since 2014, but CCP has never detailed specifics until a week ago - which, of course, is why we're here giving feedback in a feedback thread.




Sgt Ocker is correct.

As that was an option way back when .....

Also CCP's "EVERYTHING" destructible is somewhat limited to one area of the game that is sadly dominated by the select few with Super Blobs and armies of Dread Alts.

What better way to be rid of those groups who can hold sov but would never want or be able to afford a Keepstar. The game turns to shite the instant Outposts and stations become destructible - All Fozzies lies about small groups holding sov are to become real.

CCP development - Tell'em one thing - Give'em the tools do achieve it - Then shite all over them a few years later.


Bottom line is Devs are pandering to the nul blob, again.


NB; Everything destructible - selectively.

everything should be destroyable even your undestroyable fleet of supers, but destroyable on equal terms for everyone, not altering game politically so much. CCP just set gigantic bounty on cva heads to animate some war and conflict - it is like set minimal/maximal price for tritanium or reset wallets in eve but not for everyone just for some people. You will see one day ccp will change some other old roles... and will say... - example you should understand the best - now titans are for mining! And how will people from PL feel about such change? people will say - **** this **** and stop playing such game because it looks like thair game is not thairs any longer and time is totally wasted.

disrespectful game will be dead sooner or later.

But But,, it isn't EVERYTHING destructible, it is selective.

Everything destructible is a great idea, only IF every part of everything is replaceable.
Setting it up for a significant part of Eve history to be removed from the game is not good design. Especially when it is selective removal - If stations and outposts are to become destructible - ALL stations and outposts need to be treated the same or Eve is not being Eve.


Best option for the games future - Remove ALL functionality (including ownership) except docking from outposts and stations New Eden wide - No exceptions.
They then become their own monuments.


Here's the plaque for B-R5RB.
Somewhere near here once stood a massive structure that had been part of New Eden for many years and was the catalyst for one of the largest battles in Eve's history - But CCP decided this little monument would be better.

Give us a self-destruct button for stations. We'd rather blown them up ourselves than see a dread blob with 50 titan alts from a superpower coalition unanchor faction citadels and whisk off a piece of history as a collectors item.



Nailed it. Couldn't have said it better.

You're full of crap..

Lots of us have been arguing the whole time,even at fanfest.....

Team 5 0 led by Fozzie doesn't give a flying feck what the player base think of the changes, they never will.

Fozzie.."so what if players leave, we can always get more"

That's what he thinks of all of us.

Sorry couldn't hear you over the resounding applause of multiple presentations regarding destructible structures. Could you say it one more time please? Maybe with enough people to be heard over the crowd.