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[Mini-blog] The Next Steps in Structure Transition

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Retar Aveymone
DJ's Retirement Fund
Goonswarm Federation
#121 - 2017-04-17 18:55:01 UTC
Max Deveron wrote:
Retar Aveymone wrote:
i don't get why poland, er, providence, is so unhappy over the upcoming partitioning

it'll only last for like a month and then they can go back to living in providence



hmph, it is about preserving a piece of history, forever.

But since you are referencing poland, I will reference Germany, WWII, and everyone involved in that despicable era where pieces of art, history, etc were lost, burned up, sequestered in places unknown that the rest of the world will never get back nor see again. Which has been garbage for the generations that came after that era.


all the more reason for us to take over the stations, unanchor them, and transport your cultural patrimony safely into our space where it won't be bombed into oblivion and will be carefully preserved from prying eyes and appreciated by goonswarm line members as a centerpiece exhibit in the museum of failed alliances
Retar Aveymone
DJ's Retirement Fund
Goonswarm Federation
#122 - 2017-04-17 18:58:52 UTC
it's like the Met in New York, but with more profane screeds by alliance leaders ranting about invading goons
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#123 - 2017-04-17 19:06:08 UTC
Querns wrote:

It's a hole. A condemned hole, for squatter hobbits.


Squabbits?
Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
#124 - 2017-04-17 20:03:12 UTC
Retar Aveymone wrote:
Max Deveron wrote:
Retar Aveymone wrote:
i don't get why poland, er, providence, is so unhappy over the upcoming partitioning

it'll only last for like a month and then they can go back to living in providence



hmph, it is about preserving a piece of history, forever.

But since you are referencing poland, I will reference Germany, WWII, and everyone involved in that despicable era where pieces of art, history, etc were lost, burned up, sequestered in places unknown that the rest of the world will never get back nor see again. Which has been garbage for the generations that came after that era.


all the more reason for us to take over the stations, unanchor them, and transport your cultural patrimony safely into our space where it won't be bombed into oblivion and will be carefully preserved from prying eyes and appreciated by goonswarm line members as a centerpiece exhibit in the museum of failed alliances



your?

Are you an idiot? It must be obvious that I am not CVA or any member of Provibloc.
Also I am sure there were at some point many outposts named for Vile Rat, an American Citizen after he passed away.
As I am sure there other reasons/uses of such of many outposts through out the years they have existed.
Your comment in its entirety is one of Selfishness, Greed, and Stupidity.

Goonswarm or any other group should be ashamed to have you part of them let alone near them after those words.
(and yes if this had been a discussion in Real Life face to face, I would of physically struck you for your fascist disrespect of our Honored Fallen players.)

Retar Aveymone
DJ's Retirement Fund
Goonswarm Federation
#125 - 2017-04-17 20:29:48 UTC
Max Deveron wrote:

your?

Are you an idiot? It must be obvious that I am not CVA or any member of Provibloc.
Also I am sure there were at some point many outposts named for Vile Rat, an American Citizen after he passed away.
As I am sure there other reasons/uses of such of many outposts through out the years they have existed.
Your comment in its entirety is one of Selfishness, Greed, and Stupidity.

Goonswarm or any other group should be ashamed to have you part of them let alone near them after those words.
(and yes if this had been a discussion in Real Life face to face, I would of physically struck you for your fascist disrespect of our Honored Fallen players.)



:staredog:
Valkorsia
Spartan Vanguard
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#126 - 2017-04-17 21:38:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Valkorsia
Arrendis wrote:
Querns wrote:

It's a hole. A condemned hole, for squatter hobbits.


Squabbits?


You realize, of course, rare Squabbit's live in Floridia ... and Canada ... and Providence. I **** you not. And, anyone who would be so mean too take away the Providence home - our stations - from the cute, cuddly, little Squabbit deserves missiles and lasers in the face!! They live peacefully in our stations and have for decades. We will protect them at all costs!


Canadian Squabbit

Flordia Squabbit

And, they are a species: Squabbit species

Urban Dictionary

The proper use of the term: "I caught a squabbit trying to steal my nuts."
--

#SaveTheSquabbit
Valkorsia
Spartan Vanguard
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#127 - 2017-04-17 21:54:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Valkorsia
By the way, I didn't want to make this a racist thing, but only a Goon would threaten a Squabbit. Only a Goon. You're bad, bad people.

#SaveTheSquabbit
Punctator
Blackwater Task Forces
Goonswarm Federation
#128 - 2017-04-17 23:31:47 UTC
Querns wrote:
Max Deveron wrote:
Retar Aveymone wrote:
i don't get why poland, er, providence, is so unhappy over the upcoming partitioning

it'll only last for like a month and then they can go back to living in providence



hmph, it is about preserving a piece of history, forever.

But since you are referencing poland, I will reference Germany, WWII, and everyone involved in that despicable era where pieces of art, history, etc were lost, burned up, sequestered in places unknown that the rest of the world will never get back nor see again. Which has been garbage for the generations that came after that era.


There's nothing artistic about Providence, though.

It's a hole. A condemned hole, for squatter hobbits.


said guy who destroyed like 800b isk and have 8 solo...
what the **** is wrong with this game...
Jonathon Silence
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#129 - 2017-04-18 01:22:58 UTC
Big question.

When do we get compensation for our Outpost BPO's?

We have not be able to use them and nor can we sell them, so they are essentially 'dead isk' at this point. Can we please get some information about when we will get some kind of compensation.

It is not hard with a couple of options:

1) Run a DB update to remove them and give us the isk
2) Run DB update to give use the isk and leave the BPO's as legacy items that do nothing
3) Set up a character that we can contract the BPO's to in return for isk

Just do something as it is rather annoying that you have made them useless but still essentially hold on the isk invested in them.

Cheers.
Querns
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#130 - 2017-04-18 01:26:19 UTC
Punctator wrote:
Querns wrote:
Max Deveron wrote:
Retar Aveymone wrote:
i don't get why poland, er, providence, is so unhappy over the upcoming partitioning

it'll only last for like a month and then they can go back to living in providence



hmph, it is about preserving a piece of history, forever.

But since you are referencing poland, I will reference Germany, WWII, and everyone involved in that despicable era where pieces of art, history, etc were lost, burned up, sequestered in places unknown that the rest of the world will never get back nor see again. Which has been garbage for the generations that came after that era.


There's nothing artistic about Providence, though.

It's a hole. A condemned hole, for squatter hobbits.


said guy who destroyed like 800b isk and have 8 solo...
what the **** is wrong with this game...


That doesn't make any sense. Care to try again?

This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

Punctator
Blackwater Task Forces
Goonswarm Federation
#131 - 2017-04-18 02:18:45 UTC
you pushed me to changed my mind
come "my lord" and take what is "yours"
it will be ton of fun, squires can bait as hell - specialy people with small balls get hurts.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2017-04-18 06:39:48 UTC  |  Edited by: March rabbit
Jonathon Silence wrote:

When do we get compensation for our Outpost BPO's?

We have not be able to use them and nor can we sell them

How come?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#133 - 2017-04-18 07:01:02 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Jonathon Silence wrote:

When do we get compensation for our Outpost BPO's?

We have not be able to use them and nor can we sell them

How come?


Because of the patch in December 2016....
Jonathon Silence
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#134 - 2017-04-18 23:56:23 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Jonathon Silence wrote:

When do we get compensation for our Outpost BPO's?

We have not be able to use them and nor can we sell them

How come?


A patch in December that removed the ability to deploy and build new outposts (and outpost upgrades).

It currently takes 1 outpost to build 1 outpost ... so you can not build them.

But the blueprints are still there and we can do nothing with them.


Baldin Tarmain
B T C
I'm Feeling Good
#135 - 2017-04-20 20:01:30 UTC
I've been following the posts, though we're Lo-Sec people.

Since the big topic seems to be the destruction of Bases, how about maintaining them as Specialized Citadels where the Citadels themselves are invulnerable, but components are.

If you wear one down to take it, you have stripped most of the value and have to rebuild the components. Similar to taking ship damage as the armor is breeched. Since invulnerable would mean permanent, you would have to want the system, to take the station. And then you would have to build it back to get the perks. There are all kinds of specialized modules in EvE. Maintaining availability for a set of modules for these stations should be doable. Most battle mechanics would likely remain the same as regular Citadels.

I'm not a mechanics specialist, but it seems somewhat of a compromise between total destruction and leaving things as they are.

Just a thought from someone without a dog in the Starbase fight.

(now if you want to talk about refineries, we could have a real discussion).
PyroSinus
Void.Technical Academy
#136 - 2017-04-28 13:43:29 UTC
I originally asked this question HERE and it was recommended that I ask it here instead.

I have several billion isk in corporate assets stuck in null sec outposts that are impounded due to office rent lapsing. What will be the fate of these assets once CCP converts the structure to a Citadel and it is killed or repackaged?
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#137 - 2017-04-28 19:59:46 UTC
If it is an Upwell structure, you can initiate the "Asset Safety" anytime you want and move it to another Upwell strucutre within the system or to the next located low-sec for a fee.
Nasar Vyron
S0utherN Comfort
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#138 - 2017-04-29 06:29:02 UTC
PyroSinus wrote:
I originally asked this question HERE and it was recommended that I ask it here instead.

I have several billion isk in corporate assets stuck in null sec outposts that are impounded due to office rent lapsing. What will be the fate of these assets once CCP converts the structure to a Citadel and it is killed or repackaged?


If I had to wager a guess it would appear inside of corp deliveries in the nearest LS station/citadel in system... But I have no clue, just makes the most sense. I can't imagine everything just being deleted.

Can always test this, put down an astrahus, put something into a corp hanger, then unanchor it and see where the stuff goes. I mean it'll take you a few days to test this, but you have months to figure it out.
D'Om K'vash
Sheep Teet Industries
#139 - 2017-04-30 06:48:55 UTC
Fozzie you literally just killed low sec. you are the worst. how you have a job still is amazing. You are such an incompetent self righteous douche bag who thinks he is so smart. When literally you are the worst thing to happen to eve. If your goal is to kill this game you are succeeding. When I started 40-60k players online was normal. Since you've taken over the normal is half that. I hate you so much for killing this game and taking the fun and skill out of the game.

from your stupid idea of what you've done with caps and killing gameplay made famous by rooks and kings and just feeding into the blob more. to all of your stupid structure changes which has officially put a knife in low sec. You are a moron and if you would at least listen to the eve community you could maybe sometimes do some good. However you think you have all the right answers which is why I hate you and I hope ccp wises up and demotes you to just retrieving coffee and running the printer. Which is more then you deserve.
PyroSinus
Void.Technical Academy
#140 - 2017-05-01 12:54:52 UTC
Nasar Vyron wrote:
PyroSinus wrote:
I originally asked this question HERE and it was recommended that I ask it here instead.

I have several billion isk in corporate assets stuck in null sec outposts that are impounded due to office rent lapsing. What will be the fate of these assets once CCP converts the structure to a Citadel and it is killed or repackaged?


If I had to wager a guess it would appear inside of corp deliveries in the nearest LS station/citadel in system... But I have no clue, just makes the most sense. I can't imagine everything just being deleted.

Can always test this, put down an astrahus, put something into a corp hanger, then unanchor it and see where the stuff goes. I mean it'll take you a few days to test this, but you have months to figure it out.


The assets are stuck in impound in Immensea class conquerable stations in or player deployed outposts. For me the operative issue is that they corporate assets that are impounded due to office rental fees being unpaid.