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June release 118.6 - General feedback

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Yuusef
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#101 - 2016-06-28 19:53:48 UTC
This is my favourite release so far. 5/7.

My favourite parts are:
- removing the daily opportunities
- the nauseating and annoying ship animation
- the lack of new features
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#102 - 2016-06-28 19:56:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Alessienne Ellecon wrote:

I'm not white knighting. I'm just sick of whiners. If you have a complaint, fine. But it seems to me like every single feedback thread consists of a gathering of whine connoisseurs opening their best bottles of "WAAAH CCP YOU SUCK". Did you bring the cheese?


Dont come to a feedback thread to tell people to not give their honest feedback.

If you are happy, say so. Let others have their say. Lets hope those others can say enough to help CCP make better choices so you have other people to play with in EVE in the future.
Nid
Subject to Change
#103 - 2016-06-28 20:00:23 UTC
Docking / Ship swapping animations got to go or optional - please.
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#104 - 2016-06-28 20:07:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Sgt Ocker
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Sgt Ocker wrote:

I'm not white knighting. I'm just sick of whiners. If you have a complaint, fine. But it seems to me like every single feedback thread consists of a gathering of whine connoisseurs opening their best bottles of "WAAAH CCP YOU SUCK". Did you bring the cheese?


Dont come to a feedback thread to tell people to not give their honest feedback.

If you are happy, say so. Let others have their say. Lets hope those others can say enough to help CCP make better choices so you have other people to play with in EVE in the future.

I think you might want to edit your quote mate.

You have quoted me with saying something someone else said.

(I told him much the same as you, please fix it)
Here is the original post

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#105 - 2016-06-28 20:12:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Sgt Ocker wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Sgt Ocker wrote:

I'm not white knighting. I'm just sick of whiners. If you have a complaint, fine. But it seems to me like every single feedback thread consists of a gathering of whine connoisseurs opening their best bottles of "WAAAH CCP YOU SUCK". Did you bring the cheese?


Dont come to a feedback thread to tell people to not give their honest feedback.

If you are happy, say so. Let others have their say. Lets hope those others can say enough to help CCP make better choices so you have other people to play with in EVE in the future.

I think you might want to edit your quote mate.

You have quoted me with saying something someone else said.

(I told him much the same as you, please fix it)
Here is the original post


Done

Another more recent example of outcry is when CCP wanted to take triage carriers off everyone by introducing a new ship skill for the FAX machines. In the end they back tracked on that while sneaking in myriad of fighter related skills which they cleverly didnt release much info on until they arrived.
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#106 - 2016-06-28 20:49:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tao Dolcino
Who is leading CCP ?
Certainly some "genius" commercials who know nothing about the game and found out : "oh ! to attract more players, let's make the game shiny with tons of flashy animations !
We are seriously damaging the gameplay by doing so ? Bah, who cares about gameplay, a game nowadays must be shiny ! Hollywoodian !"
CCP, you fail, as always. Stop to massacre the gameplay with fluff no one asked for except your marketing departement who is ruining this game since "Walk Alone In Your Bedroom With A 200€ Monocle". Fire them, and give back the power to decide to the devs who still play EVE, if there are still any...
Remove the docking animation, the epileptic giant TVs, the new map, the new icons, the new scanning interface, the new UI, the new cameras, all that useless stuff we never asked for and which are making the game each release more unpleasant, clunky and frustrating to play.
Stop the haemorrhage.

Ps : ah, this year at least, i don't need to change my signature Roll
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#107 - 2016-06-28 20:55:10 UTC
Next patch, player doesnt control the camera. The camera is positioned by a smart algorithm which makes everything look good on twitch and youtube.
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2016-06-28 21:06:12 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Next patch, player doesnt control the camera. The camera is positioned by a smart algorithm which makes everything look good on twitch and youtube.

Don't joke with that ! They'd be able to believe that it's a genuine suggestion and they'd find it a great idea ! Idea
Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2016-06-28 21:17:32 UTC
I will try not to make this snarky

however - CCP you solicit feedback in the SiSI test forum section - however it always seems to me that it does not stop things if they are bad - you will modify things or try to improve them, but when people say "this is bad" or "I don't like this" or "Please don't implement this" they often get ignored and you proceed to implement the changes regardless of the feedback provided. Yes some people can scream and yell and are not being terribly constructive, but when you simply do not like something...saying "don't do it", "I don't like it" may be all that can be offered.

Case in point - the new docking, ship changing, undocking - close to all of the feedback provided was of the nature "we don't really like this". However there was little to no feedback or responses from Devs to any of the comments. I had said that i could probably 'live' with the docking, ship changing ones....but undocking was a non starter. I simply find it quite annoying and it "feels" like it takes longer and leaves you at camera angles you would never want to be at.

My previous statements regarding these stand - im not a big fan of any of the docking, ship changing or undocking camera stuff. It just 'feels' wrong, particularly the undocking. The whole cinematic thing is not needed and when you break it the camera whips back and you are at some odd angle to your ship/station.

I have read through the current release feedback, and it reads like the test forum, ppl don't like the new cinematic stuff. It is not a rage like the 'gong' was however for some it is close - for me it is just adding something to the game that is not immersive, does not make the game more fun, it doesn't really add anything, except what 'feels' like addition time to docking/undocking/changing ships and in particular with undocking makes the whole process of undock/warp to safe an unpleasant experience.

Like I said before its not the end of the world, but I would have preferred no change at all vs this change, and if there was some way to disable it, I would.

Best regards,
~Regan~
Needa3
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2016-06-28 21:35:57 UTC
Jesus ****, get rid of that docking animation. Seen it 4 times and I'm already sick of it. FFS stop wasting resources like that.
John'Doe the Second
SAS Veterinarians
#111 - 2016-06-28 21:48:05 UTC
Tao Dolcino wrote:
Remove the docking animation, the epileptic giant TVs, the new map, the new icons, the new scanning interface, the new UI, the new cameras, all that useless stuff we never asked for and which are making the game each release more unpleasant, clunky and frustrating to play.

I agreed with this part fully.
Needa3
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#112 - 2016-06-28 21:51:59 UTC
John'Doe the Second wrote:
Tao Dolcino wrote:
Remove the docking animation, the epileptic giant TVs, the new map, the new icons, the new scanning interface, the new UI, the new cameras, all that useless stuff we never asked for and which are making the game each release more unpleasant, clunky and frustrating to play.

I agreed with this part fully.



another plus one
Adria Blue
Digital Fiction
#113 - 2016-06-28 22:10:33 UTC
Where did recurring opportunities go?
Adaahh Gee
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#114 - 2016-06-28 22:12:14 UTC
Ivory Harcourt wrote:
OK why the hell do you bother even to ask for feedback if you don't care about it at all?

We've pointed on motion sickness problem when this feature was in SiSi. You completely ignored it.

Seriously why do you ignore players? What the hell is wrong with you?



This is pretty much why I stopped using SiSi, all feedback that wasn't "Wow, you guys are amazing" seems to be ignored, It was the same with the unified inventory and the module renaming, both deployed without listening to feedback, the inventory changes had to be fixed and patched, and the naming changes were just changed again to the bizarre "ample" "enduring" bulls*it.
Loan Survivor
Radzone
#115 - 2016-06-28 22:38:45 UTC
Needa3 wrote:
Jesus ****, get rid of that docking animation. Seen it 4 times and I'm already sick of it. FFS stop wasting resources like that.




+1 to this! CCP, you really messed up with this. Please revert or allow option to disable that awful animation. Waste of resources when so much else could have been worked on.
Rory Wolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#116 - 2016-06-28 22:40:47 UTC
Where did the Skill Point Opportunity go? Finally an incentive to login and do something each day. And of course - poof!!!!!!!!
Rory Wolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#117 - 2016-06-28 22:41:35 UTC
The camera controls are flaky and inconsistent. Just about got me killed twice last night.
Norrin Ellis
Doomheim
#118 - 2016-06-28 23:04:51 UTC
-New docking / undocking animation is annoying
-Cannot find any way to turn off new in-space messages (ore mined / bounties added)
-Thrill of the Hunt was the best thing you've done in years, and it was all a tease

CEO, Venture Racing

Manager, EVE Online Hold'Em
Mayham Jack
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#119 - 2016-06-28 23:07:52 UTC
Well I am going to add my 2 isk worth of issues i Have

1. Get Rid of the docking or make it optional as this is servering no direct purpose
2. Return the Daily Opportunities
3. Delay the patch if its not going to be released in the entirety whether its a day or 2 or a week later.
4. Listen to the Feedback from your player base.
5. Changes that was done to carriers again has now produced another cap ship I own to be on permant docking status
6. Return the old camera, this new action camera stinks
Norrin Ellis
Doomheim
#120 - 2016-06-28 23:12:52 UTC
I would also like to express my disappointment that CCP isn't devoting more resources to deleting critical system files. I miss the days of the boot.ini fiasco.

CEO, Venture Racing

Manager, EVE Online Hold'Em