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June release 118.6 - General feedback

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Imustbecomfused
Illicit Expo
#81 - 2016-06-28 17:13:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Imustbecomfused
No offense and all, but adding a ticker box to disallow new features might be a common sense type of idea...


There is no reason I need more cpu or gpu tax for some added MANDITORY visual affect, or movie. please add a I DONT NEED MORE CPU AND GPU TAX button so we can have our smooth gameplay back and I dont add MORE crap to nest, I have more than enough accounts to manage as it is, I dont like waiting either so if you all could kinda hurry up, thatd be **** yo. :P Evil


the line in space to show me where im going, wtf is that? are you suggesting im drunk? please add a ticker to turn this training wheels crap off? omg. might as well autopilot approach and orbit targets too while we are at it, in fact might as well have an AI play eve for me being im so ******* lazy to do anything in eve... including learn to pilot a spacecraft.
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#82 - 2016-06-28 17:30:25 UTC
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The number of possible overview tabs has been increased from 5 to 8


/me slow claps

Does this mean Eve Online is slowly getting out of Beta Question

Regards, a Freelancer


ps: All DUST 514 battle districts will have their owners unset. This will remove all the capture bonuses offered in faction warefare space, and any POS bonuses that were in effect.

Coz 80 million consoles Roll

Eve online is :

A) mining simulator B) glorified chatroom C) spreadsheets online

D) CCP Games Pay to Win at skill leveling, with instant gratification

http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg

http://bit.ly/1egr4mF

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#83 - 2016-06-28 17:44:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
While the new camera is probably ok for the bulk of players, those that put high demands on the old camera are still left out in the cold with the new one being far less fit for the purpose of fast manoeuvring around hostile gangs and fleets.

It still requires 2x the input to look up and down as it does to look left and right. Its zoom increments are too closely packed when near the ship but end up in huge increments when you get to the type of zoom levels where its handy to have more control for kiting around gangs and fleets. Not to mention the zoom stopping at 200-250km rather than the old 1000km in this age of huge grids.

Its worrying that CCP thinking is that if only a small percentage of players are effected then why not make a change for the worst if it will only be a small fraction that will stop playing?

Id rather CCP make changes that use the current performance as a baseline and build from there, but then what do i know? Perhaps theres a benefit from alienating one group of people after another?

As for the new docking camera. Obviously. The first input a player provides is ignored by the game in favor of an arbitrary unzoom which has to complete before the player has the privilege of controlling their space submarine.

With all due respect CCP, who the **** is allowing this ******** **** onto TQ? Are you ******* ******?
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#84 - 2016-06-28 17:51:45 UTC
Alyssia Benar wrote:
.. and while we're on it: please never ever remove the old map.
I just can't stand this new "funky" crap.
Scanning takes me atleast three times longer.
Why is it necessary to change working features and break them. Sad


Old code has to be replaced with bad features.

It used to be that people who made the game played the game. Its hard to tell if the people who make the game now even enjoy working for the company, let alone the game.
Morgaine Mighthammer
Rational Chaos Inc.
Brave Collective
#85 - 2016-06-28 17:54:31 UTC
why am i not surprised that this patch is nothing but a clusterfrak? adding **** that folks didn't ask for and not giving the option to not see it, pushing blanket nerfs to ships that essentially make them useless hanger toys again... you guys dont learn...

Yet again ccp has shown a near complete disregard for the feedback that they asked for. CCP Larrikin posted up the initial changes to carriers on the 10th asking for our feedback on them, and since then we have had 36 pages of feedback and discussion on how they are generally bad and way over done, and yet the only thing out of all that that they actually listened to us on was the power usage of XL artillery...

The changes to carriers are WAY too heavy handed, and we have lots of math and testing and examples of that in the capital balance thread, yet all of that has been summarily ignored and they push the nerf to live. all i can ask is why? why even bother asking for feedback if you just ignore us? hell, you did the exact opposite and actually made the nerf worse than what was originally proposed and snuck in the change to fighter weapon activation range, why on earth are you doing this ccp? you make an awesome and much needed change to carriers with citadel, and then barely 2 months later you nerf them into the ground so hard that they are literally worse now than pre-citadel. i thought you wanted folks to actually undock carriers and use them and loose them? that was happening, a lot. but instead of doing the smart thing and giving it a few months to see how we all adjust to the changes, you listen to the bitching and crying of so called "elite pvpers" and take out the nerf sledge and beat carriers to death with it.

bad show ccp, i really was expecting better from you.
Carlossus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2016-06-28 18:37:51 UTC
I think this patch was a total waste of time. So far all I am seeing is a bunch of really horrible changes. Meh. Oops
Narku Bourgeoisie Tonisilitis
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#87 - 2016-06-28 18:38:19 UTC
Okay, canceled my sub over the carrier changes. http://i.imgur.com/rmoF9zq.png
My cyno alt will drop too as it's plexed.

Renewal comes up near the start of school, so if carriers are given an actual role between now and then I'll reconsider.
Marckis
BROTHERHOOD OF ASSASSINS .INC
#88 - 2016-06-28 18:40:49 UTC
It may be a sentiment that was already expressed, but:

I want 10,000 SP per day until the Scope Network/Serpentis functionality is in place. I think it's a bit unreasonable to remove one aspect of gameplay (daily opportunities) while promising a new one (Scope/Serpentis), then follow through on the removal without providing the new feature.

I think this is a reasonable accommodation, neither technically difficult or game breaking.

Thanks,
- Marckis.

KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#89 - 2016-06-28 18:43:44 UTC  |  Edited by: KIller Wabbit
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this: the hanger spin animation makes me dizzy. Please - add a switch or turn it the hell off.

Now the acceleration vector? Nice touch. It should make bumping much easier.
Titti Sabezan
SYNDIC Unlimited
#90 - 2016-06-28 18:51:56 UTC
Simple suggestion (granted, with major implications)

WiS is dead -- make the next major project the removal of all the WiS features, to which add all the station-related twiddles that everyone seems to hate -- the dock/undock anim, the giant wall-mounted adverts.
Maybe, to assuage the "loss" that the animators would fell, let them be a RMT-buy-in for citadels -- "If you want to pimp your Astrahus, send $99.99 to CCP and we'll see you a code to enable the features for *your* citadel".

Go back to "Space Ships In Space".

Oh, and maybe do something to cut down on the carebears (of which I am one) -- say one day a week when Hi-Sec PVP is encouraged -- the 10K SP you just removed could be awarded to the successful gank of a ship worth (say) 20M, with 5K for smaller, and maybe 20K for a solo kill on a Hulk of a freighter. Open up EvE to tne people who want to sandbox with Added Blood, and get a license for something fluffier -- Cuddly Creatures' Playground.
Eddie Mayer
Primus Inc.
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#91 - 2016-06-28 18:52:13 UTC
The docking animation has got to go... I feel dizzy
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#92 - 2016-06-28 18:52:56 UTC
Joia Crenca wrote:
For the person or group that directs the dev team to ask for test feedback on a change, and then outright ignores the feedback that comes back from the dev team and the test players... that's not a way to keep an enthusiastic player base.

There seems to be a disdain for human beings and all things associated with the human condition somewhere in the decision chain. Nausea is a problem.


I think we're seeing our first major failure of the current CSM or some long left over beach fish from the last. Either CCP Dev's that decided they can do without the CSM just shot a major hole in EVE's major revenue foot or holy cow did the CSM mess up.

Marckis
BROTHERHOOD OF ASSASSINS .INC
#93 - 2016-06-28 19:15:00 UTC
I have another opinion!

Could it be that the nerfing of carriers was done out of a knee-jerk reaction to their recent changes?

I want you all to think for a moment.... think back to those other games you used to play, when a new race, or tank, or ability, or class was introduced... Didn't it seem like super crazy powerful? and everyone was all like NERF NERF NERF.

Perhaps it wasn't that that new thing was overly powerful... perhaps it SEEMED powerful because it was new, and everyone else hadn't developed new tactics for it.

Perhaps what we simply need is for the Meta to adjust, and find ways of responding to things that we initially perceived as overpowered and nerf worthy.
Ivory Harcourt
Space Ants
#94 - 2016-06-28 19:21:51 UTC
OK why the hell do you bother even to ask for feedback if you don't care about it at all?

We've pointed on motion sickness problem when this feature was in SiSi. You completely ignored it.

Seriously why do you ignore players? What the hell is wrong with you?
Orranor
Brief Psychotic Episode
#95 - 2016-06-28 19:30:16 UTC
No surprise that the lighting stuff needs tweaking. Yes surprise that this camera stuff was released in such an unpopular state.

Devs seem to have forgotten that holding back a change because it is not ready is not the same as cancelling that thing and wasting the resources.

More consideration for the players please!
Sergey Hawk
The Sith Syndicate
REFORD
#96 - 2016-06-28 19:34:41 UTC
Again about "awesome" new camera.
For god sake make Custom Tracking Position and sliders for zoom speed.
And pls remove this f.ucking intermediate centering before starting rotation.

One example.
Few day ago Smart keyboard pro was renamed in Babel Type and devs receive many rage feedbacks.
They change name back and in release note now we can read
"Thanks for the hateful feedback on the new name"

I really want to see similar text about new "awesome" camera in the next patch note.
"Thanks for the hateful feedback about our new camera. This was our worst decisions in the last 5 years"

Aura: "You need to be within range to execute this function."

Kimi Räikkönen: “Leave me alone, I know what I’m doing.”

Sulfurblade
Evil Pink Bunnies
#97 - 2016-06-28 19:34:49 UTC
Marckis wrote:
I have another opinion!

Could it be that the nerfing of carriers was done out of a knee-jerk reaction to their recent changes?

I want you all to think for a moment.... think back to those other games you used to play, when a new race, or tank, or ability, or class was introduced... Didn't it seem like super crazy powerful? and everyone was all like NERF NERF NERF.

Perhaps it wasn't that that new thing was overly powerful... perhaps it SEEMED powerful because it was new, and everyone else hadn't developed new tactics for it.

Perhaps what we simply need is for the Meta to adjust, and find ways of responding to things that we initially perceived as overpowered and nerf worthy.


I am not really concerned with the Carrier Sage as I could honestly care less I have no skin in the game if you will....

But I am quite sure there is not just one but several very lengthy forum Posts about this very issue and it seems that Math, player opinion etc have all gotten together in these posts and have pointed out the issues and what needs to be done... And in none of those posts did they say the Carrier needed to be hit with a giant Nerf bat....

So this once again makes us as players say!!! "Does CCP even read these Forum Posts" As they have clearly once again gone against the solid cohesive majority of people who have posted on this issue and have made there points clear with data overwhelming data to back themselves up.... But CCP still ignores this????

Again my main concern is this habit of CCP ignoring its player base!!! Whats with telling us to type feedback on this topic at this place in the forum and then ignoring the feedback completely and doing whatever CCP wants to do.... And then you just send us to a new Forum Post to post feedback about why we don't like what you just did even though it ignored everything that was ignored and complained about in the previous iteration and forum post.

Its almost like your just sending us to these forum posts so you don't have to deal with us.... And you have no intention of actually reading the posts anyway....
Sergey Hawk
The Sith Syndicate
REFORD
#98 - 2016-06-28 19:38:19 UTC
I forgot something.
Make "awesome" undock animation optional!

Aura: "You need to be within range to execute this function."

Kimi Räikkönen: “Leave me alone, I know what I’m doing.”

Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#99 - 2016-06-28 19:45:29 UTC
Alessienne Ellecon wrote:
Ix Method wrote:
Alessienne Ellecon wrote:
I'm actually relieved to be honest, I can grind more isk to buy a better T3D fit in time for when the event does happen.

Everyone quit your whining and use the extra time constructively.

Would white knighting on a forum count? Smile


I'm not white knighting. I'm just sick of whiners. If you have a complaint, fine. But it seems to me like every single feedback thread consists of a gathering of whine connoisseurs opening their best bottles of "WAAAH CCP YOU SUCK". Did you bring the cheese?
Wait until you have been around for a while, you will change your tune. Unless you become a CCP can do no wrong drone, which I really hope is not the case.
CCP has an amazing and long reputation for screwing things up and history shows rebellion is the best way to get their attention.

Google Eve incarna - CCP does try hard but too often get it wrong.

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.

Nathan Nova
Neo Operators Value Assembly
#100 - 2016-06-28 19:47:27 UTC
+1 to make docking cinematic optional.
It literally makes me feel sick