EVE General Discussion

Think of the poor high sec gankers. How would they find their targets in a unsafe environment?

Of course they are content creators. By your logic, every single form of ship PvP is "content destroying" because there will always be a net loss of virtual items in the game universe when two or more ships battle it out. They may be 'virtual item destroyers' but gankers and wardeccers are certainly not destroying content.

Eve Online is a player-driven game. CCP provides the tools, and the players make the content. Gankers, wardeccers and others in highsec who seek to destroy or capture other player's assets are initiating content by forcing other players to account for their actions, and defend their space pixels. Moreover, the loss of virutal items that space combat, including ganking and wardeccing, results in, provides meaning for these virtual items to be built. Given that most industrial output is purchased by players to prepare for, or replace assets lost in ship combat, this destruction-created demand is also indirectly the major source of content in this game for industrialists. The real jewel of this game, the player driven economy, is therefore completely dependent on player-created content including that which takes place in highsec.

Destroying things creates more demand, not less, as things need to be replaced. If you buy a ship and it never explodes, you will never buy that one again, while if you lose a mining ship or hauler on occasion, part of your imaginary wealth will be used to pay other players to build you a new one. Ganking, creates even more economic demand (AKA content) than other forms of ship combat as the attacking ships are destroyed as well.

Virtual items in a London database are not content. Content in Eve is the player-player interactions and stories (like fighting off the evil pirates), and reasons for undocking to do stuff (like mine or build), both of which are provided by highsec content creators like gankers and wardeccers and their destructive activities.

People used to use battleships but that got nerfed. In fact damn near everything ganking related has either been nerfed into the ground or outright removed.

You mean:
"People used battleships when there were easy way to exploit bugs and turn people into aggressors.", right?

Well: Would you like to do this job? Staring at the screen and switching the asteroid every 15 minutes isn't my idea of fun. And of cause you only buy ships that are build with certificated non-akf Minerals.
By the way: In another thread someone was complaining that his hulk got blown up in High. One reply was to find some Null-Sec miners. That's safer because you have all the intel in Null that you don't have in High. So much for the safety/unsafety of High and Null.

Riddle me this, why is nullsec safer for mining than hisec is?

Mining barges are the only subcaps you can't turn a profit on. If you fit t2 mods on any subcap and fit zero tank you can turn a profit.

For example a zealot with t2 guns, damage mods, tracking and so on but no tank mods can be blown up using a single gank ship and can turn a profit. Mining barges were buffed some time ago so that even if you fit zero tank on them your can't turn a profit killing them. This makes them unique in the subcap lineup.

Burn my dunk, kill my awox, you can't take the skies from us!

You should learn the difference between risk and risk management.

If highsec miners used nullsec risk management in highsec, what do you think would happen?

Except when they do . Null residents generally provide for their own safety, whereas in hisec some people seem to believe that Concord are there to provide it for them.

There's 2 major ganking groups in hisec, setting both to red and being aware of your surroundings mitigates 90% of the risk from hisec gankers, unfortunately that appears to be too much effort for many.

She swings the hammer, and hits the nail clean on the head.