Wormholes

Here's how I'm using it my first time. Bit cramped for space on my 22" monitor. This would be great throwing on second monitor so scanning window is on right monitor and normal client is on left. However since I'm usually using second monitor for another character that's a bit moot.

This is pretty cool. I like the idea just wonder if its not very practical.

Complaints/Issues:
1. Scan sig down. Zoom out to scan next sig and have issues moving probes because 100% sig is 'on top'.
2. The probe manipulator box scales with window height. The box size is tiny when window height is at min. Like barely bigger than cursor!
3. The balloons for planets/gates/etc. are annoying. Can't they pop up only if mouse hovers for a second or something? I had to turn nearly all of them off just so I could actually scan.
4. Not related to scanning but I'd like to be able to vertically change camera center for this new scanning window.
5. Maximum zoom is insufficient for many planets/moons. Example. At max zoom I want to be able to easily distinguish different moons apart. Have to warp to pos result to figure out exactly what moon its on when they are so close together.

Comments:
1. Would like to be able to position the controls on either side of scanning window. I.E. move the analyze/probes/scan results block to left side. Maybe make it free floating?
2. Whats the point of the destroy probes button? Why would you ever want to destroy your probes? Shouldn't this just be removed?
3. Toggling anoms on/off is now a 2 click operation.

Yeap.


Noticed improvements:
*Snapping is superfast, could be a tad slower, but still appreciate the speed of the new new map.
*Bookmarks don't fade out too much.
*Scanning cube scale is constant regardless of window size. Makes it easier to interact with.
*There are these nice, full bold white dots on the celestial orbital paths where there might be points of interest. These are really nice and much preferred over the Balloons wrapping the brackets.

Things that were not addressed since last iteration:
*Bookmarks don't show distance. They do in the old old window.
*Bookmarks still warpable only through right click, no click-n-hold contextual menu.
*Progress rings still constant scale. Seriously, try zooming out in a small window. Now you have a huge green clusterfudge full of anomalies.
*Also, why do anomalies have progress rings? They can never be below 100% anyway.
*I suggest you animate the progress ring so that at 100% it shows up briefly, then disappears.
*Still not possible to filter through sigs by selecting them in the probe window, like you can in the old map. Specifically, by selecting one sig they others fade out, but their progress is not lost.
*Someone still has an unhealthy intimate fascination with the skybox. It's a scanning interface, not a canvas.
*"Type" column is still not present in the embed probe scanner window by default. Can't figure whats a Relic, Combat site or whatever. Have to Google by names and remember by heart.
*Tactical overlay is too faded out. Trick is if you make too opaque it blends with the orbital paths. Hence the previous suggestion of changing color.
*The pop-out signature window when you hover your mouse over a sig is too fast and snappy. This presents an issue when you need to send your scanning cube into a bunch of anoms/100% sig. Hovering your mouse over these spams you with these popup windows, making it difficult to interact with the cube.
*It is still possible to accidentally drag the cube by the arrow and fling at the speed of light to the bottom of nowhere. There need to be some artificial limits to the scanning window 3D box. Something like 400-500AU box. Doubt there is a system bigger than that. All sigs appear around celestials anyway.
*Balloons still exist.

Overall, not much of an improvement. Still obtrusive and sends a message that functionality was sacrificed in favour of bling and glitter. Wouldn't use it over the F10 variant.

Center probes on self button, pretty please?

I have a suggestion for a little feature - how about a keyboard shortcut and a separate UI control for the size of the probe spheres? The current method of pointing the mouse to the edge of one of the spheres can sometimes be fiddly, but if you were to ADD (not substitute) a keyboard shortcut and/or a slider (a la dscan range control) in the UI, that would be great.

I'm thinking up/down arrow, or page-up/page-down to change probe sphere size up (16AU to 32AU, for example) or down (16AU to 8AU for example).

A couple suggestions:

- Right now when you hover over a sig in the sig list, the % circle lights up. I think the dot in the middle should also get brighter. I also think you should be able to click the sig in the list, and have it stay highlighted. That way you can highlight a sig you want to look at, then move the probes around to do so without losing track of which dot that was that you cared about. The other sigs should fade back a bit when doing this.

- Still don't like the balloons!

- Would still like the ability to align for dscan from within the map

- I like vic's suggestion also!

- I don't agree that the popup for hovering over sigs is too fast... why would anyone want something to be slower???

- Bookmarks don't show distance, but they should!

- The background is faded out enough now that it isn't an issue

- It would be interesting to see the locations of fleet members in your system on the map but that's probably beyond scope or intended capability.

Edit:

- The overall width of the results can't be changed, making some things unreadable

- The old background color bars for % were better than the underline

- I'm going to reiterate that clicking one signal in the list should highlight that item in the map, and stay highlighted.

- Integrating the scan angle indicator from the F11 menu would be a huge benefit, as that's the only reason I use that menu.

Great changes! This new iteration is much better. I can actually use and get by with the current version. I would like to see more work done to bring it on par with the old map. Anyway, great progress!

Sometimes when you enter a system with the scan interface open, the “you are here” marker get broken. It is located at the sun and doesn’t move with your ship. I still would like that marker to be colored.

I’m happy to see that hovering over a celestial now displays your distance to that celestial. I’m hoping the box containing that info could be widened. The bookmarks pins also need to show your distance to the bookmark. I forgot to check if anomalies show their distance. Basically everything on the map should show your distance to it like on the old solar system map.

I agree with the other posters that there need to be a tiny menu icon placed next to the Filtered and Ignored menu labels to indicate to people that those are actually interactable menus.

So that I can still use the overview, dscan, and chat boxes, I can’t make my probing window very large. It works well with my full size monitor. I’m concerned that it wouldn’t be good on a small screen like on a laptop. It would be nice to be able to use the interface like the old interface which is to put it in full screen mode with your windows (probe scanner,overview, dscan, chat) on top.

To be consistent with the rest of the game and because I prefer it, I hope the radial menu can be made to work in the scanning interface.

Sorry if this has already been brought up, but on the system currently on TQ, if I align my 'you are here' and say the sun while in the map, select 30 degrees and hit the d-scan button, the directional results change to the sun, and whatever is on the sun.

Under this new system the d-scan results do not change when doing this.

This is currently a really useful feature for quickly getting a fix on things in system.

This is from the point of view of probe scanning anomalies, very little experience of combat scanning

It looks and works better than the previous attempt
I still would not use it for scanning over the orginal

First thing I noticed apart from the fact it is still in a window that covers everything else on your screen depending on size is that whislt it shows the various spreads of probes available to you, you cannot click on them and launch, i had to go back to the old probe screen and launch from there - having tried again, it seems it is my saved spreads that cannot launch from that window, the default ones can!
The fact that it covers everything else is really useless when you are using a modest/regular sized monitor, even when dragged to full size (no auto windows style full screen/windowed button apparent)
Can we have an option to turn off the 'You are here' marker as well please, too big, too intrusive. Have to say my first action (after trying screen resizing) was to find out where to switch all the markers off.
Why do we need the progress rings, the information in the original window on the bar and now the thin line under the anom name is enough, unnecessary clutter as far as I am concerned
Clicking on an anomaly needs to have that as the only signature on the scanner like now, not just fade it out a bit otherwise I will be constantly ignoring and re-show signatures, no thanks I will use the old system. In a wormhole with losts of sigs this is particularly annoying.
Definitely need an identifier for the type of site as mentioned by others, no good having to remember once they are scanned, even the hover over box does not tell you.

In summary, still not a fan, nothing so far has convinced me that I want to switch from the current system.

I like the overall direction, it's an improvement from the beta map, but it is still worse than the old system map.

Some good stuff:

- The DScan overlay is fainter than the system orbits now, making it less obtrusive (old grievance of mine)
- The signature dots are smaller, which is welcome
- Having the probe controls within the same window as the map is very nice
- Being able to collapse the useless probe list is great (you could just do away with it since probes work in groups now)
- Running a scan by hitting enter (thank you so much!)


Some stuff that needs work:

- Zoom levels are still inadequate, on both ends of the spectrum
- Map markers are too obtrusive... maybe we could turn them off without losing all indication that there is something there? Like leaving a small dot on celestials when you deactivate their marker?
- The map window reference for centering appears to be in the middle of the square that has no control elements in it, rather than the center of the whole window. Maybe some like it that way, but I find the probe controls unintrusive and the off-center reference drives me nuts, could we have an option like we do with the ship cam?
- The signature list is missing some columns, and while I have at times wished I could turn some off, I find I don't know all the data sites by name and thus can't avoid them fast enough now :P
- The anom filtering mechanism needs work. Unfortunately I can't quite suggest a good way of doing it, but I hope you'll come up with something before you're in need of squeezing citadels in there
- Tooltips are way too fast to trigger
- Probes should take precedence for selection ALWAYS. They are the raison d'etre of this map and in no circumstance should I have to fight other map elements when I am trying to drag a probe arrow. Or, from another point of view, Probes are easy to move out of the way if I do need to click on a planet.
- Any chance we could launch probes on self rather than on the sun?



And I know this it mostly offtopic but, is there any chance we can hope for a dscan functionality rework? Alter ranges based on hull? Pretty please? In the name of de-dumbing exploration?

I dont appreciate that new scanning window pushes new icons on me. This was last straw.

-2 paying accounts.

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The whole of this year was a waste of my time. Good bye.