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Drifter Incursions

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Xylem Viliana
homeless bum
#41 - 2015-07-31 21:33:15 UTC
it happened, sort of

Safizon currently under assault by possibly 100+ drifters
Pryce Caesar
Cloak and Daggers
Initiative Mercenaries
#42 - 2015-08-01 23:14:00 UTC
Xylem Viliana wrote:
it happened, sort of

Safizon currently under assault by possibly 100+ drifters


So I read in the news. It like this event is the prelude for a future update revolving around the Drifters. For my part, I hope that it could be a prelude for Drifter ships to be made available to Capsuleers. It'd be interesting to see a new class of ship.
Xylem Viliana
homeless bum
#43 - 2015-08-02 07:42:30 UTC
Pryce Caesar wrote:
Xylem Viliana wrote:
it happened, sort of

Safizon currently under assault by possibly 100+ drifters


So I read in the news. It like this event is the prelude for a future update revolving around the Drifters. For my part, I hope that it could be a prelude for Drifter ships to be made available to Capsuleers. It'd be interesting to see a new class of ship.


Won't happen. But ccp did not deny that the current lore may provide us with a new ship that the Amarr are working on. Drifter ships are nice but would kill any format of balance as things stand.
Aeon Plex
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2015-08-11 19:32:51 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Burn Amarr - drifter version.
I hope that drifters will camp gates , and kill people on them.


Awesome. And camp WH entrances and exits... Let's get this f*kin party started and make the world really come alive to join the capsuleers in creating the dynamic of New Eden...

Ned Thomas
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#45 - 2015-08-11 23:58:18 UTC
Just thought I'd pop in and mention that there was a mass test on Singularity today to test drive Drifter incursions. By all accounts, players got their asses handed to them by the new AI. Afterwards, Paradox confirmed that the Drifter incursions will spread to adjacent systems over time. I do believe that in addition to incursion sites, Drifters will attack you on stations, gates, wormholes....pretty much anywhere you can sit in space.

Don't have many other details. I did ask if anyone tried to help the Drifters and was told everyone died too quickly to find out.

Victory Myel
Doomheim
#46 - 2015-08-12 02:13:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Victory Myel
Asuka Solo wrote:
If it is true, yay more incursions!
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
#47 - 2015-08-12 02:18:24 UTC
Victory Myel wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:
If it is true, yay more incursions!

Well, the Galatea feedback thread in the Test Server forum seems to be fairly clear.

Coming in the next release:

Team Space Glitter

Updates to behavior NPCs (Drifters and Amarr Navy) for NPC vs NPC combat
Defense of the Throne Worlds incursion
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#48 - 2015-08-12 03:23:25 UTC
Please let this be the beginning of caps in high sec. please please please please please.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon

Oxide Ammar
#49 - 2015-08-12 04:27:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Oxide Ammar
There are no blingy enough BS in fleet with logi that could be able to tank 700K omni dmg that drifters do in this incursion, is this new drifter incursion for capital ships ? dreads and carriers Big smile

Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.

Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2015-08-12 05:16:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Oxide Ammar wrote:
There are no blingy enough BS in fleet with logi that could be able to tank 700K omni dmg that drifters do in this incursion, is this new drifter incursion for capital ships ? dreads and carriers Big smile

Or people will actually have to *gasp* expend ships.

Besides:
CCP Paradox wrote:
  • Please bring your best PvE ship, or ship you feel is equipped enough to take on Drifters.
  • [*] Note that these sites will not give access to Capital ships, so Carriers or larger will not be used.
    Oxide Ammar
    #51 - 2015-08-12 05:31:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Oxide Ammar
    Barrogh Habalu wrote:
    Oxide Ammar wrote:
    There are no blingy enough BS in fleet with logi that could be able to tank 700K omni dmg that drifters do in this incursion, is this new drifter incursion for capital ships ? dreads and carriers Big smile

    Or people will actually have to *gasp* expend ships.


    What is the incentive for me to lose every time I sit doing incursion a 2-3 bill worth BS just because " Dude you just got DD'd by drifter and we can't do anything about it !".....31 mill like in HQ ? I think I'll pass on this.

    Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.

    Barrogh Habalu
    Imperial Shipment
    Amarr Empire
    #52 - 2015-08-12 05:41:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
    Oxide Ammar wrote:
    What is the incentive for me to lose every time I sit doing incursion a 2-3 bill worth BS just because " Dude you just got DD'd by drifter and we can't do anything about it !".....31 mill like in HQ ? I think I'll pass on this.

    Nobody said you must fly 2-3 bil BS. Not like you will suddenly get Drifter site when warping into what looks like Sansha site. Like I've mentioned already, caps are off limits in sites right now, so there's that.
    As for incentives, well...
    Payout/h - Expenditure/h = ISK/hour, the latter can still be considerable.
    Don't forget your insurance, and loot your wrecks (if drifters don't pop them, that's it).
    Arthur Aihaken
    CODE.d
    #53 - 2015-08-12 07:35:53 UTC
    So how do Drifter Incursions work then? Teams wait for the token player to show up who will unwittingly take the DD? "Looks like we're going to need another Timmy..."

    I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

    Eugene Kerner
    TunDraGon
    Initiative Mercenaries
    #54 - 2015-08-12 07:38:39 UTC
    There are going to be large fleets with very fast small ships

    TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

    Oxide Ammar
    #55 - 2015-08-12 07:42:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Oxide Ammar
    Barrogh Habalu wrote:
    Oxide Ammar wrote:
    What is the incentive for me to lose every time I sit doing incursion a 2-3 bill worth BS just because " Dude you just got DD'd by drifter and we can't do anything about it !".....31 mill like in HQ ? I think I'll pass on this.

    Nobody said you must fly 2-3 bil BS. Not like you will suddenly get Drifter site when warping into what looks like Sansha site. Like I've mentioned already, caps are off limits in sites right now, so there's that.
    As for incentives, well...
    Payout/h - Expenditure/h = ISK/hour, the latter can still be considerable.
    Don't forget your insurance, and loot your wrecks (if drifters don't pop them, that's it).


    Have you ever seen incursion fleet done in T1 cheap BS with T2 fitting ? It takes ages to finish the site. Also your math is flawed because if CCP followed this they need to make site payout huge.

    Edit: I'm not demanding a capital incursion, but by the look from the numbers and DD dmg (~700k omni dmg as they say) I thought the only ships they can tank that was capital ships since they have enough buffer, but since we aren't obligated to fly blingy pirate BS I'm just gonna park bowhead with 3 fitted Hyperions just in case. -.-

    Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.

    Anthar Thebess
    #56 - 2015-08-12 09:00:28 UTC
    This is getting interesting.
    Drifter incursions in higsec/lowsec/nullsec
    but Sansha incursions only in lowsec and nullsec.

    Finally CCP!
    Good move.
    afkalt
    Republic Military School
    Minmatar Republic
    #57 - 2015-08-12 11:37:50 UTC
    Eugene Kerner wrote:
    There are going to be large fleets with very fast small ships


    More likely fleets of fully insured T1 battleships.

    Basically "pay 30m-50m to play incursions" :)


    The like the idea of them spreading, that is fairly amusing.
    Barrogh Habalu
    Imperial Shipment
    Amarr Empire
    #58 - 2015-08-12 12:00:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
    Oxide Ammar wrote:
    Have you ever seen incursion fleet done in T1 cheap BS with T2 fitting ? It takes ages to finish the site. Also your math is flawed because if CCP followed this they need to make site payout huge.

    I've seen worse. I've started there. Payout was still better than what people with that kind of skills and ships could get anywhere in hisec still, and arguably better than null ratting in half-decent ships was at the time.
    And I'm talking accepting BCs and shield fitting amarr ships and no T2 guns whatsoever because :newbfleet: level of badness.

    It's a matter of comparison with what you think ISK/hour should be. And we don't know CCP plans for existing content...

    Speaking of payout - it's currently meh apparently. Again, we don't know what it will become eventually. New items for unique LP? More ISK? Something else?
    Maybe payout will be in the form of keeping your hisec space where you can farm Sansha/L4s Drifter-gank-free, I don't know. I mean, they did say that incursions will spread (from my understanding - unless stopped) and that drifters will gank people anywhere in space for sh*** and giggles, right?

    Oxide Ammar wrote:
    Edit: I'm not demanding a capital incursion, but by the look from the numbers and DD dmg (~700k omni dmg as they say) I thought the only ships they can tank that was capital ships since they have enough buffer, but since we aren't obligated to fly blingy pirate BS I'm just gonna park bowhead with 3 fitted Hyperions just in case. -.-

    Something tells me that it will be a way to go unless something will be discovered about DDs or people will just decide it's not worth the trouble.

    Anthar Thebess wrote:
    This is getting interesting.
    Drifter incursions in higsec/lowsec/nullsec
    but Sansha incursions only in lowsec and nullsec.

    Finally CCP!
    Good move.

    "Yay CCP doing something in my imagination!"

    And before we proceed with moving Sansha to low/null entirely, can we please axe ability to see NPC kill stats and incursion influence levels from across the galaxy to know where exactly we must head in order to gank juicy battleship fleet?
    afkalt
    Republic Military School
    Minmatar Republic
    #59 - 2015-08-12 12:18:12 UTC
    Does anyone really think anyone will run incursions in low/null sec? Really?

    Sack that crap, for that effort wormholes are what you do.
    Arthur Aihaken
    CODE.d
    #60 - 2015-08-12 14:54:51 UTC
    Anthar Thebess wrote:
    but Sansha incursions only in lowsec and nullsec.

    When did this change happen?

    I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.