EVE General Discussion

This is still a facile and ultimately futile debate, like I said on page 50-something.



Just like Falcon said it isn't going to change in the first 5.



So in other words.......been 20 pages since a shitpost. Now take a small break with this new shitpost.














Everyone needs to take a deep breath and relax.

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Shitpost page-snipe. Nice.

So make more than 1 friend & pay them money. If I can have 3 highsec slave corps that fill my wallet I'm sure the average guy can have a couple of friends that are around to help out.

Sorry Arkady, but I don't fly in HS. The police tend to shoot me.

I happen to think HS ganking is not perfect and should be nerfed in some corner cases like the one I described. If that alone creates so much hate in you, well lets just say you need to chill out a bit.

Have you ever actually ganked someone, or are you just saying stuff in an attempt to feel relevant?

To be honest, I've never ganked anyone in HS. There were a few times I wanted to tag along with others but my sec status was too low. I've ganked occasionally in other space but in general I just play EVE for those more engaging fights. So yeah, I'm hardly an expert. But I think the concepts involved here are pretty simple, in that if I did either ganking or hauling I know what I would think is balanced.

I post stuff here to give my opinion. Others can respond to points if they feel they are valid or invalid and explain why, and CCP can take that feedback to make the game better.

My opinion is that it's boring to have to worry about scouting an empty ship in HS. Freighters, jump freighters, and things like machs and vindis are the most extreme examples. If you are ganked with nothing in your cargo, and you *fit for tank*, the gankers should have to spend an amount of ISK at least somewhat close to your hull value, otherwise it seems like a silly mechanic. I do think it's imbalanced that you can gank a reinforced bulkhead fit freighter with only 200mil worth of catalysts at a cost of over 1.3 bil to the one guy who's only recourse to prevent such a fate would have been to do something that makes the game more boring for him.

Thank you for confirming that you have exactly zero idea of what is going on.

Gank cost based upon the pricetag of the target is a terrible idea. To give an idea of just how bad, under your idea there is a megathron that would require 500,000 t2 catalysts to gank. Which amounts the basically the entire population of EVE.

Playing with other people makes the game boring.

In high sec, yes.



Ditto, if a titan could fly in HS. The hull value is more like 60 bil though I think. And remember the cost would be spread out among the gankers (or paid by a corp/alliance). I think this would basically be a ship that's extremely difficult to kill in HS though and that would have other balance concerns (such as hauling ridiculously valuable stuff with almost no risk), which is why they are not allowed in HS. If you want to kill a titan, or a marauder in a frigate, then the place for that should be low or null.


Mallak come on =p You can still have an idea about something that you haven't personally experienced. Experience isn't necessary for understanding, so that alone doesn't invalidate my opinion. Sure, it reduces my credibility a bit I'll give you that :)


But why though? I never said the cost needs to be used directly in-game for any calculations. I'm not sure why it shouldn't be a balancing factor though.

EDIT: sorry, didn't see your megathron example. No one says you need to use catalysts. And there's no reason why the mechanics for gankers can't be re-balanced as well to provide a way to kill higher valued targets quickly, but at a higher cost, if that's needed to make it more balanced. It seems like a good thing if the gankers had more options to play with too to support more variable fleet sizes.

Hey guys, I have these ideas that CCP laughed at on several occasions. I have no experience on either side of the fence but that doesn't make me wrong.