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Has suicide ganking become a problem? Empty freighters being ganked.

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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#741 - 2014-06-21 20:17:13 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
-10 pilots don't let themselves get into fights because they arent morons. Facepo makes a prolonged fight with a highsec player suicide. Gankers likewise do not put themselves in a position to fight (outside the gank) for the same reason, in addition to the obvious reality that gankboats tend to be squishy in the extreme because nobody can tank CONCORD.




^^ from the man who made them change the rules. Smart people would pay for his advice (if they were smart). Cool


Hah, if I actually could be bothered to do anything but stalk the forums anymore. Lol

And they've even managed to suck the fun out of that. Miss the days when you could keep a good political and/or firearm thread going in OOPE for more than a single page. I seem to remember you always had rather......interesting opinions, yet still stayed on the right side of the mods, a trick I never quite figured out.

On the other hand, I DID manage to get forum-banned simply by inciting the wonton extermination of carebears. "Racism" was the reason given. Can't make this stuff up. All you can do is laugh and just accept that you aren't *really* dealing with adults here.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#742 - 2014-06-21 20:41:23 UTC
Vhelnik Cojoin wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
(...) What if, for example, players enrolled in faction warfare could serve as their faction police, with LP payouts for shooting criminal players?

Won't happen, as this could be exploited by players for easy LP farming, sorry.


So can regular faction warfare, I guess CCP should remove that too.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#743 - 2014-06-21 20:48:51 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
They cant even shoot down gankboats with the tank of a wet paper bag.

Yes, well if you mean the current state of white knighting then you are 100% correct.


Brings back an amusing memory. During BJ2014 there was a guy who took a break from his usual mission & incursion running schedule to snag himself some easy killmails using a smartbombing BS, what he didn't anticipate was me quietly telling half of the fleet not to aggress. To this day he has not logged back in to his -9.8 guy, I think he might have rage-quit EVE.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#744 - 2014-06-21 20:52:38 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
The point of FacPo is to reward the player who plans ahead and maps out her deadspaces and gate warp-ins.


Could you explain in great detail what I should find rewarding about warping 50 dudes around a system while we hope that Orca just docked up to empty his cargohold after we travelled 15 systems?

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#745 - 2014-06-21 22:38:41 UTC
^^Mallak, yes Kaarous already made that point a few posts back. I agree with you both.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#746 - 2014-06-22 05:00:52 UTC
lol - this thread is starting to suffer from serious Deja Moo
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#747 - 2014-06-22 11:54:33 UTC
I'm quite convinced that what remains of this thread probably doesn't make much sense anymore.
I think its had something on the order of 40 pages wiped by now.
I reckon continuity suffers a touch.

On the other hand, it likely didn't make much sense to begin with. Big smile

This thread is CODE infested! It has its own brand of logic!
Ikaros TypeAlpha
Doomheim
#748 - 2014-06-22 14:13:59 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Some men just want to watch the world burn.

There's space for us all in New Eden.



Well GM ninjapirate did assist in the writing of the code, and because of it there has been a fall out of subs since you know supplying the market or making isk is bad, mmkay
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#749 - 2014-06-22 14:22:10 UTC
Ikaros TypeAlpha wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Some men just want to watch the world burn.

There's space for us all in New Eden.



Well GM ninjapirate did assist in the writing of the code, and because of it there has been a fall out of subs since you know supplying the market or making isk is bad, mmkay


Citation needed on the bolded part.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#750 - 2014-06-22 14:30:29 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:

On the other hand, it likely didn't make much sense to begin with. Big smile

not in the slightest.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#751 - 2014-06-22 14:57:37 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Ikaros TypeAlpha wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Some men just want to watch the world burn.

There's space for us all in New Eden.



Well GM ninjapirate did assist in the writing of the code, and because of it there has been a fall out of subs since you know supplying the market or making isk is bad, mmkay


Citation needed on the bolded part.
Good luck with getting that. P

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#752 - 2014-06-22 15:18:35 UTC
Ikaros TypeAlpha wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Some men just want to watch the world burn.

There's space for us all in New Eden.



Well GM ninjapirate did assist in the writing of the code, and because of it there has been a fall out of subs since you know supplying the market or making isk is bad, mmkay
Reposting that old chestnut doesn't make it true. If you're going to say that subs are falling you should present evidence to back you up. As it stands the information currently available says otherwise, admittedly that information is a little out of date.

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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#753 - 2014-06-22 15:23:12 UTC
Ikaros TypeAlpha wrote:


Well GM ninjapirate did assist in the writing of the code, and because of it there has been a fall out of subs since you know supplying the market or making isk is bad, mmkay


Wait, this totally changes everything.

All this time I was totally sure that the CODE was a top secret branch of the CFC and that The Mittani is somewhere in the background directing the New Order towards a dark and top secret goal that only the truly elite could even begin to understand, and that all CODE agents are alts of Erotica 1, who of course is simply an alt of a well known Goon FC and of course that James 315 is just the alter ego of Grevlon Goblin seeking to corner the market on mining barges and catalysts.

But, we all know that Ripard Teg discovered this foul plot and managed to remove Erotica 1 from the game, which of course - caused him to take a break from playing EVE due to Ripard being the top secret alt of The Mittani who of course is just a CCP employee in disguise who was upset about BOB disbanding and has been plotting secret internet spaceship revenge.

It's all so clear to me now.

/me passes out tin foil hats for everyone - ganking freighters could not possibly be anything as simple as "man, let's totally gank that freighter for fun" - there MUST be a lot more to it. It's just like the JFK assassination and the Moon landing, of course. You just have to really read into it.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#754 - 2014-06-22 15:31:17 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
Ikaros TypeAlpha wrote:


Well GM ninjapirate did assist in the writing of the code, and because of it there has been a fall out of subs since you know supplying the market or making isk is bad, mmkay


Wait, this totally changes everything.

All this time I was totally sure that the CODE was a top secret branch of the CFC and that The Mittani is somewhere in the background directing the New Order towards a dark and top secret goal that only the truly elite could even begin to understand, and that all CODE agents are alts of Erotica 1, who of course is simply an alt of a well known Goon FC and of course that James 315 is just the alter ego of Grevlon Goblin seeking to corner the market on mining barges and catalysts.

But, we all know that Ripard Teg discovered this foul plot and managed to remove Erotica 1 from the game, which of course - caused him to take a break from playing EVE due to Ripard being the top secret alt of The Mittani who of course is just a CCP employee in disguise who was upset about BOB disbanding and has been plotting secret internet spaceship revenge.

It's all so clear to me now.

/me passes out tin foil hats for everyone - ganking freighters could not possibly be anything as simple as "man, let's totally gank that freighter for fun" - there MUST be a lot more to it. It's just like the JFK assassination and the Moon landing, of course. You just have to really read into it.

Grrrr Goons Big smile

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#755 - 2014-06-22 16:01:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Goldiiee wrote:
Grrrr Goons Big smile
Everyone knows that GSF is actually just Mittens ISBoxing 10,000+ accounts.

The solution is simples, we kill The Mittani and all will be right in the world P

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Lady Areola Fappington
#756 - 2014-06-22 16:06:25 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:

Wait, this totally changes everything.

All this time I was totally sure that the CODE was a top secret branch of the CFC and that The Mittani is somewhere in the background directing the New Order towards a dark and top secret goal that only the truly elite could even begin to understand, and that all CODE agents are alts of Erotica 1, who of course is simply an alt of a well known Goon FC and of course that James 315 is just the alter ego of Grevlon Goblin seeking to corner the market on mining barges and catalysts.

But, we all know that Ripard Teg discovered this foul plot and managed to remove Erotica 1 from the game, which of course - caused him to take a break from playing EVE due to Ripard being the top secret alt of The Mittani who of course is just a CCP employee in disguise who was upset about BOB disbanding and has been plotting secret internet spaceship revenge.

It's all so clear to me now.

/me passes out tin foil hats for everyone - ganking freighters could not possibly be anything as simple as "man, let's totally gank that freighter for fun" - there MUST be a lot more to it. It's just like the JFK assassination and the Moon landing, of course. You just have to really read into it.



Oh god no DJ please. I have a set number of miracles I can perform per life, and I already burned one getting Gobbles to go away. I ain't doing it again.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#757 - 2014-06-22 20:03:02 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:

I mean, seriously, have you read what people claim? They believe it's some sort of big achievement
to be able to FC a blog of gankers around in highsec. I can not even understand how anybody would
believe that, unless he simply has no understanding of what he is talking about.

It's bullshit. It's not a big deal. At all. The same for the logistics. It's not a big deal at all to find somebody
who builds all the necessary equipment and delivers it. Hundreds of thrashers with fittings I've owned,
spread throughout Gallente, Minmatar and Caldari space easily prove this. All player made and delivered.



These people just inflate this to a big deal, while it is not ... and I hope the devs rather listen to somebody
who has actual understanding and experience of this, instead listening to those who deliberately choose
to not undock, although there's no reason not to.


Dear Solstice,

What I have bolded...

you are true. But certain groups of people act by pure propaganda, expecially specific large. pyramid organizations.

I am sure you have noticed how it's years they follow a well defined path, with well defined aims, with a major support from many players that are members or symphathizes to their organizations.


Anyway you are true twice: despite I am completely trash at hi sec PvP compared to you and many others, I have done FW in hostile hi sec including in Amarr, that is 1.0 sec. In a Cyclone, not some agile nano Rifter ;P

if I could do that, then really everyone can.

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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#758 - 2014-06-22 21:55:37 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:

There are easily 20 white knights in Aufay, they are not doing a damn thing.


Oh, give them some credit.

They really add a bunch of classy and well thought out content to the systems local chat. If you enjoy the full spectrum of "white-knight" conversation, you will be delighted to hear all of the classics you've come to know and love - featuring -

* References to human or animal waste products.

* Threats of RL violence directed at other players.

* Sound strategic advice such as "YOU SHOULD GO TO NULLSEC AND TRY THAT"

* Erotic fanfiction with a special focus on homosexual acts.

* Thrilling reports of victory when a white-knight manages to do from 0-1% damage on a catalyst that was concorded.

* A general inability to spell, form a complete thought, or make sense in any way.

* Professional PVP advice - featuring advanced study courses such as "THAT'S NOT *REAL* PVP" and "Post combat data analysis - It was not a "Fair" fight". Master courses such as "Shooting spaceships in a video game that features shooting spaceships and the link to Sociopathic Disorders" and "Economic Bushido: I won't pay because of the principle!"


But wait, there is more! The white-knights in Aufay will bring you exciting NEW hits sure to become favorites. You'll see -

* Amazing examples of "thinking outside of the box" - such as a white-knight in a Falcon parking 50m off the gank target and sacrificing the Falcon to the song of "I've had this falcon forever look how it was rigged I did not want it anyway"

* Other random ships sitting 50m from a gank target and exploding in a dazzling array of PSSSSSSHHHHHHH

* The saga of the white knights in Smart Bombing battleships. Featuring the amazing strategy of galaxy renowned PVP master "DrysonBennington" - the same mastermind that brought you the "LEVEL 4 CODE ORANGE ALERT CODE IS IN SYSTEM" and the mysterious and deadly "Scissors Technique". You will marvel as they deploy smartbombs and do minor damage
to many a catalyst while destroying many random non-code players and their pods - all to EMERGE after being concorded with a negative sec status that confuses them and about a dozen kill rights to be used at a later date for a special encore! (Special feature - brand new and never before seen strategy by PVP master "DrysonBenningon" may also be featured! As of late, he seems to have the ability to come up with at least a few every day.)

* The somber but determined march of as much ECM every single white-knight can possibly bring to the field - which is nullified by ECCM fits time and time again - the true wonder of this is the determination that regardless of it never changing the outcome of a single freighter gank, more faith in this feature is required and simply trying it again in a half hour will result in a outcome that results in .... whatever results the white-knights are convinced will happen.

* The intense rock anthem of REVENGE. Soon, many of the white knights and gank targets will summon their "powerful friends in null sec" who will totally put a stop to this madness. (Please note: Powerful friends in nullsec are not available in some areas including high-sec. Powerful friends in nullsec may decide to be featured at a much later date that can best be described as "Soon".

All of this can be yours for free! Simply set course for Aufay and make sure to bring a towel - the white-knights of Aufay can break into tears of sadness or rage at any moment and it tends to get a bit messy.
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#759 - 2014-06-22 22:38:56 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:

There are easily 20 white knights in Aufay, they are not doing a damn thing.


Oh, give them some credit.

They really add a bunch of classy and well thought out content to the systems local chat. If you enjoy the full spectrum of "white-knight" conversation, you will be delighted to hear all of the classics you've come to know and love - featuring -

* References to human or animal waste products.

* Threats of RL violence directed at other players.

* Sound strategic advice such as "YOU SHOULD GO TO NULLSEC AND TRY THAT"

* Erotic fanfiction with a special focus on homosexual acts.

* Thrilling reports of victory when a white-knight manages to do from 0-1% damage on a catalyst that was concorded.

* A general inability to spell, form a complete thought, or make sense in any way.

* Professional PVP advice - featuring advanced study courses such as "THAT'S NOT *REAL* PVP" and "Post combat data analysis - It was not a "Fair" fight". Master courses such as "Shooting spaceships in a video game that features shooting spaceships and the link to Sociopathic Disorders" and "Economic Bushido: I won't pay because of the principle!"


But wait, there is more! The white-knights in Aufay will bring you exciting NEW hits sure to become favorites. You'll see -

* Amazing examples of "thinking outside of the box" - such as a white-knight in a Falcon parking 50m off the gank target and sacrificing the Falcon to the song of "I've had this falcon forever look how it was rigged I did not want it anyway"

* Other random ships sitting 50m from a gank target and exploding in a dazzling array of PSSSSSSHHHHHHH

* The saga of the white knights in Smart Bombing battleships. Featuring the amazing strategy of galaxy renowned PVP master "DrysonBennington" - the same mastermind that brought you the "LEVEL 4 CODE ORANGE ALERT CODE IS IN SYSTEM" and the mysterious and deadly "Scissors Technique". You will marvel as they deploy smartbombs and do minor damage
to many a catalyst while destroying many random non-code players and their pods - all to EMERGE after being concorded with a negative sec status that confuses them and about a dozen kill rights to be used at a later date for a special encore! (Special feature - brand new and never before seen strategy by PVP master "DrysonBenningon" may also be featured! As of late, he seems to have the ability to come up with at least a few every day.)

* The somber but determined march of as much ECM every single white-knight can possibly bring to the field - which is nullified by ECCM fits time and time again - the true wonder of this is the determination that regardless of it never changing the outcome of a single freighter gank, more faith in this feature is required and simply trying it again in a half hour will result in a outcome that results in .... whatever results the white-knights are convinced will happen.

* The intense rock anthem of REVENGE. Soon, many of the white knights and gank targets will summon their "powerful friends in null sec" who will totally put a stop to this madness. (Please note: Powerful friends in nullsec are not available in some areas including high-sec. Powerful friends in nullsec may decide to be featured at a much later date that can best be described as "Soon".

All of this can be yours for free! Simply set course for Aufay and make sure to bring a towel - the white-knights of Aufay can break into tears of sadness or rage at any moment and it tends to get a bit messy.



I am going to have to make a ganker alt, and I blame you. Hope to see Aufay soon!
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#760 - 2014-06-22 23:21:44 UTC
Adira Nictor wrote:

I am going to have to make a ganker alt, and I blame you. Hope to see Aufay soon!


Hah! I'll gladly take that blame. After you get that alt created you should head over to the blog at minerbumping.com and explore a bit - you will find a treasure trove of information to help you plan your skill path to get as much DPS on the field as quickly as you can, and everything you could ever want to know about the mechanics of high-sec warfare, CONCORD, and how to use every game mechanic possible to your advantage.

And don't forget - New Order Logistics (A proud member of the CODE. Alliance!) is openly accepting applications and will provide you with plenty of hands on experience and a bunch of fun! Look them up, you will be glad you did. I hear there are some pretty cool dudes in that corp :-)