Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It seems that way except now you can't deploy towers or other POS equipment. Big Ass Nerf (BAN)

You are rite. I misread 50.000 m³ for 5000 m³ fleethangar

While I think this is an interesting attempt to make the Deep Space Transport viable, I don't think it goes far enough. I personally wouldn't use them in the state described.

The MMJD addition is an interesting middle ground to solving the problem of bubbles in nullsec, but it falls flat as a solution to get away from most gate camps. A single Light Interdictor will be able to bubble, decloak the DST, and warp scramble to disable the MMJD. Since you can't Cloak/MMJD (that was disabled a long time ago) it's an interesting curiosity, but not very effective.

If the MMJD was changed so that it continued to cycle unless enough warp scramble points were on the ship to overcome any warp core strength bonuses, then that would be worth talking about. This could be a bonus specifically given to the DST.

Personally I think the Deep Space Transport should get the interdiction nullification ability - that would make it a vehicle truly able to use in "deep space" as it would avoid being dragged or trapped on gates. It will still be vulnerable to bumping, boosted HIC points, and getting multiple scrams/long points, but it would be able to tank long enough to get back to gate or warp away in more situations.

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The Fleet Hangar idea I like, as it gives a nice midpoint between using a T1 Kryos and an Orca when mining in the belts, and also gives some nice flexibility ideas for providing ammo reloads in space, and other tasks.

I have to agree with a lot other comments that this really limits the ability to use a DST for setting up POS by anchoring towers and POS mods. This was one of the things that was disappointing about the T1 Industrial revamp - there was no specialized POS maintenance ship. None of the T1 specialized bays could hold Fuel Blocks or Moon Minerals, and none were really specialized to handle POS tower setup/teardown.

The DST needs to be a middle ground between having to use a T1 hauler with pure capacity, and a Jump Freighter or Rorqual - which is a pretty high SP requirement, just to manage POS.

The main cargo hangar needs to have enough space to hold POS modules to launch into space for corporation, and be able to transfer between the bays.

Thats a nice rebalance, but I have three questions :

1- Why not giving them an overload bonus to all the things instead ? What are you affraid of ? It would be cool to be able to use stasises in combinaison with MWDs or MJDs to keep scrams away, that kind of things that would be way way easier with a broad overload bonus. Just an example.

2- What about their resistances ? (If I recall correctly they aren't T2 at the moment... Not even sure actually ^^')

3- What about the Bustard that goes 80m/sec? Usually caldari transports have higher capacity at the expense of lower agility and speed, but here the capacity is now the same so... are there any plans to reconsider their stats, especially agility and speed ?

i would wish 1 more medslot for amarr and gallente and also the ability to fit a target spectrum breaker, there is no ship where you want this more.

not so sure I like having to fit expanded cargo holds and rigs just to be able to maybe scoop starbase mods(or can I launch and scoop things from this fleet hanger?). Other then that great changes much better than the freighter changes. The mjd really makes a great addition.

I use deep space transports to carry custom offices to nullsec. Does this change mean that I cannot setup custom offices with deep space transports since structures cannot be launched from fleet hangar? Custom office gantry takes 7600 m3 space.

I just tried fleet hangar with my orca and mobile depot and got weird results. Mobile depot has no launch for self option in menu when depot is in fleet hangar. When I dropped mobile depot to space from fleet hangar it worked fine. Mobile depot was set to space. I was only able to scoop this mobile depot to cargo hold.

If structures cannot be placed with deep space transport then is this intended change in deep space transport role?

These changes look great for boosting the usefulness of these ships. Thank you

The job of a deep space transport is to operate in areas which may not be completely safe. Their role is not to be able to run gatecamps or dodge fleets, that is what blockade runners are for. A deep space transport is about being able to operate with things like lone interceptors or stealth bombers around that would easily kill a T1 industrial. If you jump it into a well set up gatecamp, it should still die.

The fact that the warp scramblers are unaffected by warp core strength renders the mwd/mjd virtually pointless on these things. If they can warp out, they don't need the mwd/mjd, and when they can't warp out the mwd/mjd option is gone already anyways. Being able to mjd out of a bubble isn't much good when it only takes a single warp scram to kill it. This is a minor point but it's annoying given that the the mjd was given specifically to these hulls.

The fleet hangar is a problem. It's great in theory, big cargo that doesn't depend on fitting is wonderful. To not be able to do POS work from it utterly removes the ships best potential role.

Also please decrease spool time of MJD on the DST to 3 seconds.
This means frigates and sebo'd cruisers can catch you, of course the Nado, but not much else.