EVE General Discussion

Do you think that building the interior environments is all that multiplayer WIS is about?

And even if it was, the performance of released CQs shows that even that is years away away from something that can be called "done".

it's about what it was about when Dominion 1st came out! and tyrannis!

everyone said, hey ccp, stop making all these new half finished expansions and fix the game already. hybrids need to be balanced, sov is still broken, where is the treaties system you promised? Alliances are bigger than before. Ships need to be be balanced. PI is still shity, where is the fully featured version we were promised are you going to finish that? what happen to Factional warefare? When are you going to follow through on those capital ship changes?

and then

WAHBAM incursions comes out,w tih 0 of anythign the palyerbase was asking for. just a big.


OMG guys, you know all that unfinished content we released? well guess what... here is more stuff we made form scratch instead of following through! yayayayayayay!





I mean I like incursions, but the time put into making them would of been enough time to finish what this newest expansion did, and more.


remember they said they only had 4 to 6 weeks because they were working on something else up until that point that got canned. So with the time and devs they had to FiS for incursions, they could of fixed everything in this expansion, AND fw, AND sov.

…in other words, the opportunity cost.

Eh? People had been asking for
-sleeper style smart and dangerous rats in more accessible locations
-rewarding group only content
for aaaaaages.. Incursion delivered.

If CCP is gonna continue with the human models walking in stations, I want Topless female poll dancers. This is Internet spaceships folks, time to get serious!!!

"Those FiS expansions you're talking about are a result of this focus"

based on how much they got done in 4 weeks with 120 less people working at ccp, I 100% disagree with you.

and no, the bitching about incarna was due to it being utter **** release of something not ready to be released by fools.

how can "stole resources away from other development;" be true when red moon rising was made by 20 devs.

Right, but more features without finishing the features in the last 5 expansions just leaves more un finished content.

you honestly think the reason no one ever sat down and redid the numbers on hybrids is because walking in stations took up too much time to make? When most people working on walking in stations weren't even on the eve teams? it was carbon and WoD?

no, they didn't do it because they get attracted to adding shiny new features over actully polishing and finishing content.

I've been here for 7 years. CCP getting ADHD and making new features right after saying "this is just part one of the this new feature, with the basics in place we can start making even more content for it, faster and more quickly"

they just forget about it to make something new.

and like i already said. Yeah I liked incursions. But that doesn't mean they should of done it when they did. They should announce a feature, and then keep a team on it, even if it takes years to finish.

where are our treaties ccp?

Where is our 5th sub system?

So on.

Seeing as how the bitching began long before that… no. It had to do with how much time WiS itself took up and how little FiS content was produced as a result. The end result just showed that the cost was even higher than people had imagined.
No, you're not that stupid. Try again, and come up with a proper question this time.
Aside from the fact that many of those people were indeed drawn from EVE teams, how do you think the team setup would have looked if WiS hadn't been made the primary focus? Go back and look at the old :18 months: devblogs where they list the allocation of resources.
Put aside to focus on WiS. You know, one of the opportunities that weren't afforded due to the cost of making Incarna.

nobody cares go away

Issue 1
fixed

Issue 2
Not fixed - was slated to be an expansion feature but no more, it may come out 1 new room at a time now.

Issue 3
Fixed-ish other people can now oogle your clothing selection.

Issue 4
Work in progress after all its an engine they mostly had to peice together.

Issue 5
Internal news letters are inhouse forum arguments, no different from us players with that one idiot always asking for a name change and the 99% of us shoving the word no though in his nose and out of his ears. Followed by the media not showing the whole picture.

Blogs put out however are not that excusable and delay in explaintions the buttoning up and response was also mishandeled which is why the old community management took a massive employee hit.



The largest employee hit was WoD, not incarna teams they're still onboard last time I checked to create more interior assests for stations.

Carbonization of eveias now econized as the largest hit in development time in eve which is why most of the new in space features are things that where entirely new modules (PI for example) (WH for anotehr) instead of old module rewrites.

However it was Incarna that ate the blame at first.

Luckily Incarna foundation is laid down adding to it should be very simple as adding a new ship or rewriting mining asteriods.