EVE General Discussion

Yeah **** F&I CCP has NO interest in listening to it. They post up things after the Incursion mea culpa, but that is about it. Go read the Nestor thread, or HAC thread, or the Interceptor thread(s)

Hundreds of pages of feedback to basically get "yeah, well we are reading this, but we are going to make this live anyway to gather more data"

GTFO

The only way to make that question answerable is to change NPC controlled manufacturing and research infrastructure to be inherently inferior to player controlled ones.

I wish I could disagree with this.



Because I also want to change that to make you more vulnerable moving it around?

Some will read that as "more of a pain in the ass". Whatever.

I think supply lines should be vulnerable. Even (especially?) between the empire markets with some healthy low sec dividers.

It's very true markets won't just appear magically in null, but it's silly to think a model can't be built that could cultivate them.

What if you had capitols in sov. and with a capitol you had the option to ship items back and forth from any other null capitol with a 24hr delivery delay? An alliance only gets one.

What if you had to jump region to region. And while jumping intra-region is like we know it now, jumping inter-region must be done from & to a 100km radius of either a planet or a star? (no pos w/o warp)

I'm not saying either of the ideas are good. But they would be interesting. More so than what we have.

I was thinking about that the other day. I recall a long thread about how highsec production should be nerfed, but even the people who want to see a highsec nerf don't want to see that kind of nerf. I think it's because there is now a "system" of production that is symbiotic between nullsec and highsec such that hurting the capability of one in a nerf will affect the other.

I think the thread was about how or why industrialists tend to get a cold shoulder from any nullsec prospects.

Whatever the case is, there's a lot that people are very entrenched with at this point, so changing anything is going to be oceans of tears either way.

I would like to point out that, whether CCP does anything, or nothing, people will still scream and howl at them.

"Fix sov!" "nerf ganking!" "XYZ is OP!"

And so forth. "Fixing sov" no matter what form it takes is going to cause massive economic shakeup in the first place, so it's not like it's really a fair argument to claim that the game's industry will be effected.

This would have the added incentive of encouraging people in high sec to have POS's instead of station slots.

And wars over moons. Yesss

And there is the problem again. How much do you have to nerf high and low sec industry to make null industry attractive enough to forgo the safety of high and low sec that is only a few minutes away? It would have to be so bad that high sec industry would become a money pit with no hope of any kind of return. No one would bother building anything there due to how bad it would be. Essentially what we currently have except reversed.

I am sure most of you null guys will cheer with excitement because, "F anyone not playing the game the same as me!", but it doesn't fix the problem. It just moved it to another part of the game. The core issue remains - teleportation. There will be no point in building in high and low sec if null is just a few minutes away. You will NOT be able to make null industry attractive enough without destroying low and high sec.

I like the using planets or suns more i think. Just examples off the top of my head, not in love with any of it. Maybe add a spool down time after jump, invulnerable but still sitting... (none for black ops)

Anything to make space big again tbh.

I don't think anyone likes RNG and the structure idea gives people an objective, the attacker wants to keep it alive and the defender wants to blow it up. One of the problems that was hit in other threads is that the sov system should have multiple objectives to break up the blob warfare. I was thinking this structure could be part of that multiple objectives idea.

Space weather would be kind of cool though.

Sun or planet might be okay, a cooldown though not so much because that means I just need to have more alts, capitals or isk to defeat the restriction.