EVE General Discussion

Happy people seek risk.
Miserable people seek reward.
Infinity's every post is self-serving and Jenn i commend your efforts but it's basically welded you to this egomaniacal troll.
Sometimes it's really important to let someone be right, especially when they aren't anything else.

One major issue in terms of alliances that rent or have agreed borders in a coalition is that they can only do sites in their own systems, unless it is an escalation, this means that they are limited to what they can find in their own space, however some alliances have people who just go and do it anyway, I found FA was especially bad at doing sites in other peoples space when I was in EXE. This does mean a lot of people do not bother doing the sites, as they have limited possibilities, if you rent two to three systems you are not going to have much joy. Solo players with no ties can just go and do them with no real issues apart from the locals trying to kill them, but the key thing is to be able to go where you want when running sites and many alliances are not allowed to do that.

I'm showing you my tooootally legit screenshots! Which prove that screenshots totally prove everything! No, there's no way I could possibly be mocking the OP, that's not my intention at all....

Really bad PSP. See all the blurring around the book? :)

Oh and besides, all you have to do is check my alt L Dopa's contracts and my own contracts. But then I guess I must have hacked the servers too and changed the data there.

Also Gustaf, come the F down... its a game... go outside, take some deep breaths, why you getting so upset to the point you're forging screenshots and being obnoxious huh? :)

Sometimes I fantasize about having a massive isk per hour opportunity cost of shooting structures

Gevlon goblin made my dream come true

Years ago (must have been late 2010) I was doing missions in hi-sec. Yes, I like doing missions. You don't really have to think; and when I come from work at 2 AM local time, tired as a pyramid slave, I can't think much and my reflexes are crap. So yeah, I was doing hi-sec missions. L4s mostly, and I made pretty good ISK. Or so I thought.

At the same time a colleague of mine was plexing in Sansha space. I agree he was playing more than me (average daily session) but man, he was an ISK printing machine. I was making maybe 20-30M/h (too lazy to salvage, no secondary char), he was making probably 300-500M/hour. He was running three accounts, all paid for with PLEX, and had enough to borrow me (read "give") about 1-2 billions/month. I was paying with cash, so I didn't need ISK for PLEX, but I used it to buy fancy ships and whatnot.

Now here's the kicker: he invited me to nullsec and I disliked it. I tended to focus on the job at hand (plexing) and I disregarded local, and so I got caught pants-down more than once. I sucked at it. I sucked at being in nullsec. I wasn't a nullsec dweller, not by a long shot.

So all this discussion about this is more profitable versus that is more profitable leaves out the most important factor of all: the player. Some people simply don't have what it takes for nullsec. Some don't even go very proficient in hi-sec. I'm one of them. I play EVE to relax, to look at my pretty ship firing those pretty rockets or lazorz and I'm happy enough that way. Look down at me if you wish, I don't mind. That's who I am. A tiny speck of dust in EVE, a nice fella outside it.

To me, it does not matter what's more profitable. All that matters if what do you like to do, and nothing else. The last thing I want from EVE is for it to become another job, aka "I have to work my arse off to make enough ISK and keep my account active for one more month". Yuck.

Lies. See the bolded part. That means you took stock of you self instead of blaming the entire universe for what was going on or thinking you had "the one true way" of being. You "get in where you fit in" and that's high sec because you want to play the game to relax.

Who are you and how the $%#% did you get into General Discussion? People with a sense of personal responsibility and mature context are not allowed in here!

/sarcasm

So someone came in and took your loot, which is random anyways.

No, go sit down somewhere and ask yourself why people who NEED the isk to fund their accounts and to pay for the most expensive habit in EVE (the pvp habit makes being a meth head look cheap in comparison). People who NEED reliable income (right now) and can't screw around with random number generators or Razor alliance dudes with probes.

Answer honestly and you will have figured out why high sec is full null sec alts.

My goal in EVE is not trying to get rich. it's relaxation and that's all there is to it.
I don't fall into the "Skill Training Online" trap. Not anymore, I don't. I also don't fall for the "make ISK to sustain your addiction" trap (The Sunken Cost Fallacy opened my mind). What I'll do is enjoy EVE the way I see fit until such time comes that I don't enjoy it anymore (it WILL come) and then I'll let my account expire until my will to play again comes back.

Quitting out of boredom is preferred to forcing yourself to do things you didn't like to do in the first place. It's this "least loathed choice" mentality which I dislike. That's actually what the Sunken Cost Fallacy deals with: "I went all this way so I have to continue". No, you don't. It's why I quit Firefall after sinking 175 USD in it. It's why I almost completely stopped playing WoT after sinking close to 1K EUR in it. These are all past costs which don't pay back anymore. I'm not sorry for spending money on those games; they brought me joy for a while, and the money was well spent. That is totally unrelated to the need to spend more. You just stop and do something else; come back when you want.

It's as simple as that :)

Well put.

Can someone invade vfk please