EVE General Discussion

Lol unsubbed 2 years ago when Incarna plan was dropped

Well, and then take into account that barely holding the pre-Incursion PCU is taking a massive effort, reselling the game to former and existing players... and without that life support, the trend woud be clearly downwards.

And my question is: WHO is leaving the game?

It is very tempting to answer: The ones who are not being attended by CCP.

It may be wrong. Maybe it's the ungrateful bastids who leave the game, albeit they are vocally satisfied with the "asploding spreadsheets" approach.

But provided how I am unsubscribed, oldbutfeelingyoung is unsubscribed, raven666wings is unsubscribed, and God knows who else is running accounts on PLEX/discounts/anything but handing out 15 euros each month to CCP, plus all the people who started the thread and no longer can be seen merely a year later, maybe there is a pattern of "not getting love = not subscribing".

Let me try to explain this to you so that you understand. This is absolutely the last time I'll reply to your posts and will hide them after your reply if you keep blabbing your tired old troll answers.

First, I'm pretty sure we keep paying for the game because we love it. We love the story, we love the spaceships, we love the pew pew or we love the space rocks and space production lines or space markets. That's why I keep paying my sub. I love this game. But, second, I would love this game to expand beyond spaceships and space industry. I would love to meet you on some station so I can punch your character right in the kisser and then offer you my hand and a drink, hell, maybe even some work. Sure i could do that right now, but to me it would add some depth to the experience with actual humanoid avatars. I think it's just a human thing. And I would love to look stylish doing all that. I really don't think that would be too much to ask.

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I've refuted many points before in this thread, among them that focusing on spaceships should not take anything away from WiS and vice versa. They had a fully working prototype of incarna the same time they made expansions Trinity-Empyrean Age-Quantum Rise. All of these expansions took a lot of work, especially Trinity which overhauled the graphics engine at the time, Empyrean Age brought with it the Factional Warfare system. The ambulation demo was largely feature complete. Now, pray tell, how can they not work on WiS and FiS at the same time if they could do so with a smaller team years ago? Really, tell me, how?
Only reason I can think of that they're dead set on focusing on one thing at a time because apparently they no longer have no people working there that can effectively distribute workloads, and are happy to call regular larger patches "expansions."

If you ask me, there has not really been anything worthy of the title of an expansion since Tyrannis, since that is the last time we got an actual meaningful gameplay addition to the game, that actually expanded the game, and was not just rebalancing or reworking the old features. Would say Incarna too, in theory, but as we all know it has no meaningful gameplay features attached to it. I'm not saying it's not important that they work on improving the older content, but they should not be titled expansions.

Flame away.

Not to mention that player attitudes and preferences change.

It's a competitive market. Thanks to games like Star Citizen, CCP will finally have to learn to compete. As opposed to making and breaking promises.

A thought for discussion - is CCP capable of creating a full-fledged avatar gaming universe?

They would be, IF they weren't spreading their competencies over 3-4 different projects, as they do right now.

Some 100 dudes in Atlanta think that the answer is yes.

I really don't know what was up with Incarna's resource hogging. CCP at least used to be known for making sure EVE could be played with fairly low end hardware, I remember playing EVE on computer with a 166Mhz Pentium MMX -CPU that had an integrated graphics card and 32Mb of RAM. This was back in 2005 or somewhere abouts, when far more powerful computers were available. CCP's insistence on low resource usage is one of the main reasons we don't have DX11 support yet, that, and that supposedly a whole lot of players even still run Windows XP. Mind you the community IIRC flipped their **** when CCP dropped the support for Windows 98 and ME.

Anyway, the lack of optimization for Incarna really surprised me because of that.

Thers was no lack of optimization.

Think abouf it. A badly coded program runs slow and doesn't really challenge the hardware,
which is easily noteable by lack of noise and heat.
The CQ though stressed hardware so much, it was literally burning out gfx cards.

That's no lack of optimization, they simply used up too much ressources in an efficient enough way
to kill off (probably overclocked) hardware.

I'd say that's a good thing, forces the people playing spectrum ZXs to come out of the electronic stone age and properly upgrade their systems once every couple of years as it should be.