EVE General Discussion

Probably a good change and most likely a result of players trying to work around the existing rules.

You reap what you sew.

Right out of the box I am going to expect people who see a problem with this to be noob harvesters and there's no way they are not scumbags in the real world too.

I don't see why this is a problem at all. Lets face it, it's not really going to affect the average EVE non-noob. Unless you get your kicks from bullying noobs. But then you're a bawbag anyway and your opinion is irrelevant.

You seem to have misplaced all of your periods at the end of one line. You might want to spread those out.

Last night I ganked a Thrasher that was running level missions out of my station in lowsec. Why? Because it was a Thrasher running level missions out of my station in lowsec, and such behavior is simply not allowed. Only later did I realize he was a 1.5 month old newbie who really stood no chance (didn't even know he could re-dock upon being shot). Would I get banned for doing this? Hardly. The fact he was a clueless newb had no bearing on my actions.

Now, if I performed the same gank out in 0.9 space, it is far more likely that I am just doing it for trolling newbies. The gank in lowsec nets me a safer/emptier home system, and possibly some loot to make my time worth it. The hisec gank, not so much, which only leaves "for lulz" as a reason. As per the article on grief play:



Are you taking advantage of inexperience in your opponents in order to have some tangible profit or victory? You're fine. Are you picking on inexperienced players just to make their lives miserable? You gon' have a bad time.

That pritty much exactly what it says

Warning: Attempting to abuse a new player’s lack of knowledge of the game and its mechanic for your personal gain or simply for their harm is prohibited in these solar systems. This includes, but is not limited to; tricking new players into situations where you or others may open fire on them freely or scamming ISK or assets from them. Disregarding warnings to cease such behavior from authorized CCP personnel is considered to be in violation of section 6 of the EVE Online Terms of Service.

Pilots found to pursue activities against new players in other areas may be subject to further restrictions as deemed necessary by CCP Games Customer Support Team.

:D hey grinder! :'D seems your party camping epic arc mission objectives is over

I know what you are saying, and might agree completely if there was a mode players could easily enter where they could experiment with game mechanics on their own for a while... but there isn't. In EVE they are thrown in the shark tank from day one. Even in a simpler game it can take a while to figure out the basics if they are something other than a run of the mill FPS or flight sim.

There is absolutely no harm in allowing them time to get their bearings for a month. Once they figure out what is going on they are much more likely to stay, and then they are fair game and have at least some sort of chance to make half way intelligent decisions under duress.

Frankly, the pro's of having better player retention far out weigh the giggles one gets from nailing someone less than a month in who barely understands how to get from one celestial object to another.

We all want more people to shoot. I tend to think of that first month as a "catch and release" period. You don't keep the littles one so they can grow up to be something worth catching a little later on.

No worrys on that Harry my long Combat History will show that i am more than able to get kills elsewere

That Said I just like Arnon the most

ReStart

This post isnt about rookie systems this post is about everysystem

Whan you read this dont think about the systems listed as rookie system think about eveonline as a hole becasue That what the GM posting this is saying

"Pilots found to pursue activities against new players in other areas may be subject to further restrictions[/u] as deemed necessary by CCP Games Customer Support Team"

This rule Can be applyed anywere the GM sees fit From Jita to the deepst cornor of Null Sec

And what's the difference between a rookie and week-old alt?



If my enemy trains a new hauler alt and I find it and gank it, does it fall under this umbrella? When my enemy is using this rookie hauler alt to transport items to use against me, does this fall under "pursue activities against new players in other areas"? New account, not affiliated with the vet's account. Wouldn't that look like a "rookie"?

Too vague. Too weak. It was fine having it in the few rookie systems, but suddenly it can expand to other areas. So basically, if a rookie goes looking for a fight 2 weeks in, gets whipped, and decides to cry about it...