EVE General Discussion

*takes back the tinfoil hat*
Perhaps EVE is only kept alive by bribes from other game companies fearing our community could switch to their products.

Sadly I agree with your estimate...

Which do you think CCP should implement first? Modular POS with interiors, or the exploration stuff?

I have already given my advice to CCP as a CSM that they should make a "State of the nation" communication on the WiS project.

That part of my campaign pledge has been fulfilled as far as I am able to do so at this time. I haven't forgotten the issue or changed my mind on it, but at this point the ball is in CCP's court.

I guess i have only imagined that Hilmar said they have a plan for the next years...
And CCP Seagull got her job just for sitting around...
The upcoming, purely player driven live events they've mentioned yesterday also
were just imagined, i guess.

It's all well and good being told that there is a plan, but we've seen very little of it. We get the occasional twitter comment from someone important like Hilmar saying "Wow, people really want WiS!", but that doesn't change the fact that we hear nothing solid of this plan and they expect us to trust them.

To be honest, it's a fairly smart approach. But the damage has already been done and the silence is just compounding it. It would have been a perfect strategy if they had started like that. The backlash in this thread isn't just about it's OP, it's about CCP saying they would achieve walking in stations content and saying it over and over since late 2006. Even now they will keep saying "We will eventually do it".

So there is actually a Plan but, let me guess: it's NDA'ed!

So I must trust you that CCP has got Big err... Some err... Any Plans but they just forgot to tell us and are misleading us with astonishing restats, exhilarating new scatter gameplay and awesome UI changes, all carefully devised as a well-conceived plan two years old which was created by the mastermind EP of EVE -CCP Backlash himself.

I am judging actions, not words. For an instance, you CSM haven't picked for voting a single avatar based proposal. That's a fact. I don't care how has happened, but that's exactly what you have done for me so now I should trust your fact-depleted words.

And that's not going to happen.

Do you know how do I know that there is no future development plan? Because right now we are at the final stage of the post-Incarna development plan. We are seeign the fruits of it as Winter 2013 comes closer.

And yet POSes have been micro-patched and postponed. Sov is not even in the talks. WiS is abandoned except for money-grabbing ploys using existing content. Expansion plans essentially mean offering 36% rebates to cancelled accounts. And Odyssey was patched together in a hurry by february 2013 after the CSM was horrified at CCP's actual plans for the summer expansion.

Hang me if EVE looks now like CCP has spent wisely the 180~ish million dollars they've earned since summer of rage. Because if the current situation is the result of a plan, then we're seriously doomed.

This game is not going somewhere, and things that don't go somewhere end not going anywhere. Tell that to the Executive Producer for EVE Online on my behalf when you meet later this month, will you?

Oh wait: you won't meet the EP because there's none at the wheel.

I quit when I had to quit. Dunno what will happen when this account expires, but it's going to happen well after the winter expansion so by then I'll be a fool or i'll be right.

Not that matters much, though.

I am surprised this thread isn't locked. Team Avatar is disbanded and the prototype discarded. I don't see what can be said here that isn't off topic.

As close to topic as I can be:

It's unreasonable to expect any significant changes in the char creator or avatars before or as part of the winter release.

I expect a couple more items and perhaps a few tweaks, largely related to the collector's edition.

It makes little sense to have CCP developers spend much effort on Avatar work in EVE until the Carbon team in WoD has some really stable stuff to try to port back. They don't seem to be gearing up for a marketing push for this christmas, so likely will be a year yet at least before we see something there.

This kind of project is huge, I was dismayed when CCP decided to roll-their-own. I still think Unreal would have been a better choice. The development of WoD is no doubt delayed due to this. That said, they do have the chance to push the boundaries and come up with something truly different. Best of luck to them.

Also sad that the revisionist history around Incarna has made it all about anti-WIS, cause that's not how I remember it.

I hope when WoD produces something worthwhile, we in EVE do get something out of it. There is some danger that the anti-spacebarbie crowd and the effort it would take to merge the forked Carbon code could make it more effort than it's worth.

I am actually more interested in the stories that can be told machinima-style than WiS, but that's just me. (Unless I can I can step through the door in Jita to track down and strangle some of the scammers & spammers, then I'm in.)