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buffing prop mods, and ship speed (to what it's required in order to use blasters effectively) is a very bad idea imo. it will create more problems than solutions.

Not sure this will really do much for BC and smaller hulls unless you make the base speed significantly higher. 19km webs and 16km scrams still leave blaster boats in the position of being raped before they get into range.

You cannot make Gallente faster than mimatar, Why? because then rail guns would be the new kite weapon of choice, Also Blasters would Alwasy be able to maintain range, making them OP as well. All this would do is shift the imbalance. This also ignores all caldari ships.... Lets not forget that. Adding extra stats to ships/new hybrid only modules again ignores Caldari and does not balance hybrids instead it just mask's the problem.

The only way to fix Hybrids is to FIX hybrids. Small changes to ships can happen but they cannot encroach on mimatar. Playing with stats and ammo is the only way. Stop dreaming of all Gallente getting damp bonuses, or a dash (thus making recons worthless fyi) Every ship needs a weakness and advantage you cannot paint with a broad brush.

This conversation needs to be directed at Hybrids not the Ships. Ships are used to cater to particaular tasks and situations further giving them dedicated roles.

No Arazu/ rapier needed. Using t2 scrams and webs with gang booster.


EDIT: assumes that what is live on SISI actually goes live on TQ. CCP has not said anything about reworking gang links yet (to my knowledge) so just going on what info is available.

Blasterboat bonus in particular, Buff the bonus, so you know the Mega bonus:


yeah where is there a damping bonus there? or maybe the Thorax?


im not talking about the Fing ewar ship bonus which is nice for what target practice? damping works in a fleet not in isolation 1:1 damping boat? yeah i will sacrifice my ability to hold you down or possibly catch up with you, or be cap stable-ish? Nice one, i was refering to a bonus on the ships themselves remove the MWD / dmg bonus and turn it into a damp bonus. Just an idea, nothing more than that and it still doesnt solve the PvE issues Hybrid boats have to deal with.

So you want to add another bonus to the every blaster boat in addition to the ones they have now? Hurrrr.

Rails are not going to be used as a kiting weapon because they a) have terrible tracking and b) have terrible dps.

Not to mention that everyone proposing a speed buff to Gallente says keep Minmatar agility the best. Guess what? You can easily change direction and overheat MWD (probably wouldn't even have to do that) and warp away from the Gall boat that's still trying to turn. Jesus kids, think these things through.

I've been seriously thinking about the Galente being the fastest and how that makes
rail kitting with anti matter the new Minmatar.

And I've realized this is Totally incorrect.

Yes anti matter kitting on the fastest ship is powerful, but only against kitting AC fits.
It does you no good against Lasers.
You're playing right into there hands, you have to keep you're traversal low, and they are
still in there optimal.

Its terrible against missiles. You would have to orbit to keep you're speed up so you're not
taking full damage, seriously crippling you're tracking.

And Minmatar have a counter to it. Arti.

Now yes you're going to see a lot of rail AM kitters initially. But people will
realize pretty quick they can go back to there other ships and really own rails.

So you then push Blaster boats back to blasters, the more flexible system.
And then everything evens out. AC's have falloff and can get dps going before
blasters can open up. Lasers still have there crystal switches and better tanks.

Missiles are still missiles. And no this doesn't help Caldari. But it may be time to
accept that balancing hybrids between two different races doing two totally different things
just isn't going to work.

Now unless someone can tell me why rails (in jam ranges because 1v1 you still need a point)
on the fastest ships, considering all the other variables not just AC would be over powered then fine.

And if you can think of it that would be great. Because I cant at the moment.

BLASTERSHIPS SHOULD BE FASTEST.
balance it something like:

CLOSEST ENGAGEMENT RANGE OF COMBAT START: blasters win, ofc they have bigger dmg, you can just run away in normal circumstances, - it is their territory

SOME MIDDLE GROUND: sometimes wins blasters sometimes other weapon systems. Sometimes the damage put on blaster ship until it gets in range will be enought to win fight sometimes it won't be and once blaster gets in range even damaged, it manages to kill the other one. Here victory will be decided by fitting, pilot skills, exact situation etc.

LONGER ENGAGEMENT RANGE OF COMBAT START: Here is the damage dealt to blastership until it gets in range too much for blastership to compensate with higher dmg, and longer range weaponsystem wins. Or blastship gets completely destroyed on the way.

WHAT IS OP about that? that sometimes wins blasters sometimes autocannons? depends on whos territory you are on ? But everyone have a chance of winnin

The problem with this is that by nerfing minmatar range, you would either eliminate kiting altogether or you would simply make it less effective, so instead of taking 5 minutes to kill me with me having no chance, it takes 10 minutes to kill me with me having no chance. See the problem?

I suppose if you made gallente the faster ships while the matari were more maneuverable you could fit railguns, but the fitting on rails should make fitting a tank, MWD and rails impossible.

I really dont think this problem can be solved by damage . . . you could add +100% damage to all blasters, and they would still be relegated to station camping and shooting at caps because they simply cannot get into range to apply their damage.
Ill take 500 DPS pretty much always over 2000 DPS pretty much never, and thats what you get with the gallente . . . a lot of DPS pretty much never.