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AFK Cloaking Collection Thread

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2013-03-19 04:49:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Kind of a dump thread where links various anti-AFK Cloaking suggestions can be linked. The idea is that this thread can used so that when somebody comes up with a super awesome fantastic idea on how to totally wreck part of the game it can be linked here and you can link this thread in the latest thread and they can see that, no...it is not a great new idea, that somebody already posted it. Feel free to add to it if you like, I'll add more periodically.

Cloaking Countermeasures
AFK Cloaking Camping High Rewards, Zero Risk Zero Effort
Curving AFK-Cloaking, a proposal
Yet Another AFK Cloaking Nerf Related Idea:
Defeating AFK Cloaking
Easy AFK-Cloaking Solution?
Another suggestion for AFK cloaking in system
AFK Cloaking Solution - From A Pro-AFK Cloaking Pilot
a real AFK cloaking solution
Solution to AFK Cloaking and Nerf Local Nonsense
AFK-Cloaking
CCP, please allow us to combat AFK Cloaking. Idea inside....
Best solution/quick fix to AFK Cloacking.
Anti-Cloaky Sonar POS Module
A possible solution to AFK cloaking.
Hey, another AFK cloaky thread
Cloaking - Make it respect the laws of thermodynamics?
Cloaky Jammer (Idea for a new Structure)
Anti stealth scanning probes
Cloak Detection Probes
The solution to cloaky campers
Anti cloak
POS Decloaking Array
Idea for a cloak counter
Nerf AFK Cloaking (2011) This one has pretty much all of the suggestions--POS Module, cloak timer, cloak fuel, special scan probes.
Introduce skill to probe out cloakships
Magnetic Pulse Module--basically a module that will decloak all ships on grid.
Cloak Breakers. Basically an ECM like module that will cause a cloak to "blink" or some such nonsense.
Anti Cloak POS Module
Anti AFK Claoking - System Wide POS Module
New POS Module
POS decloaking module
cloak camping new POS module
AFK Cloaky problem a generic afk cloaking whine thread, not even a rehashing of old ideas.
Cloaking notification Some sort of notification system for when a pilot cloaks.
transformed AFK cloaking => semi AFK cloak. for a better game with real player front of their scr
What are the main reasons AFK cloaking exists and is disliked. Looks like a basic discussion thread....
Ancient History: Cloaking Fuel from 2007 Yes, this goes back before many of the posters here were even aware of the game. You think cloak fuel is novel because you thought of it....wrong. By the way, this one is from the commonly proposed ideas thread...learn to read people, FGS.
Cloak problem solved Not really AFK related, but give it time. P
An proposal to make Covert Ops more challenging
cloaky campers

Continued....

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
DataRunner Attor
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-03-19 06:12:48 UTC
Maybe you should add threads under that actually fixes the problem of AFK cloaking...*Cough* Fix local threads *cough*

“Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.”
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-03-19 06:46:09 UTC
How did you did all these, almost everyone who started them said they searched and found nothing.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#4 - 2013-03-19 07:04:19 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
How did you did all these, almost everyone who started them said they searched and found nothing.

My best guess will be: special highly advanced forum magic.

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#5 - 2013-03-19 08:21:23 UTC
That sure is a collection of bad ideas. Lol

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#6 - 2013-03-19 09:29:12 UTC
lol, there's also one based on afk cloacking not respecting the laws of thermodynamics? :)
Vi'ach
#7 - 2013-03-19 09:59:37 UTC
Sticky? For sanities sake?
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#8 - 2013-03-19 10:44:50 UTC
Why would we sticky a topic about something that isn't even an issue
Azrael Dinn
Imperial Mechanics
#9 - 2013-03-19 11:46:28 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Why would we sticky a topic about something that isn't even an issue


Cause your stupid enough not the see an issue where there is an issue doesn't mean that there isn't an issue there.

Yes make this sticky. People talk about it alot. It is a topic that raises over and over again meaning there is an issue here.

After centuries of debating and justifying... Break Cloaks tm
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-03-19 12:01:53 UTC
Azrael Dinn wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Why would we sticky a topic about something that isn't even an issue


Cause your stupid enough not the see an issue where there is an issue doesn't mean that there isn't an issue there.

Yes make this sticky. People talk about it alot. It is a topic that raises over and over again meaning there is an issue here.

Are you saying that all the threads about high sec mining barge ganking means there is an issue too?

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Onomerous
Caldari Black Hand
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#11 - 2013-03-19 12:15:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Onomerous
Azrael Dinn wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Why would we sticky a topic about something that isn't even an issue


Cause I'm stupid enough to see an issue where there isn't an issue means that there isn't an issue there.

Yes make this sticky. People talk about it alot. It is a topic that raises over and over again meaning there is an issue here.


At one time, most of the people on earth thought the world was flat... it wasn't!!


(p.s. I fixed your quote and it is you're not your)
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#12 - 2013-03-19 12:49:58 UTC
Folks, it's already sticked in the common proposal ideas:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6342&find=unread

As you see there some of this "genial" ideas like the fuel for cloacking or the system wide cloack jamming are somthing null whiners are whining about since 2007.

The fact that is since 2007 just prove there's no issue, or would be already "fixed". It's only a fun collection of crap.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#13 - 2013-03-19 14:16:41 UTC
Azrael Dinn wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Why would we sticky a topic about something that isn't even an issue


Cause your stupid enough not the see an issue where there is an issue doesn't mean that there isn't an issue there.

Yes make this sticky. People talk about it alot. It is a topic that raises over and over again meaning there is an issue here.


There is not an issue with afk cloaked vessels. No amount of petty ad hominem attacks against me will change that. Sorry!
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2013-03-19 14:27:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Sura Sadiva wrote:
Folks, it's already sticked in the common proposal ideas:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6342&find=unread

As you see there some of this "genial" ideas like the fuel for cloacking or the system wide cloack jamming are somthing null whiners are whining about since 2007.

The fact that is since 2007 just prove there's no issue, or would be already "fixed". It's only a fun collection of crap.


Yeah, it is a collection of crap. And yeah, it was fun finding these so that it puts the lie to the claim: "I've searched but found nohting." And yeah, there are links to older posts...way older posts (some even go back to before my time in game...Christ, gonna be six years this December). But it also points out how amazingly common this topic is. And hopefully by linking this some of the more common ideas wont be posted over and over and over again...or at least can be nipped in the bud so to speak.

For example, the anti-cloak POS/Ship module is very common. As is cloak fuel. More generally, the idea is that the cloaked player should simply be required to hit a button every now and then to ensure that he is not AFK. Special probes to find cloaked ships is another. Almost of of these threads also contain "remove local" as a reply. Lately there has been the "cloaked ships disconnect from local" idea--i.e. the cloaked ship can't see people in local chat, nor can he be seen either.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

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Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#15 - 2013-03-19 14:42:32 UTC
This one needs to be stickied, because people who are concerned about AFK Cloaking are too lazy to use search or look in the commonly discussed ideas thread.

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Raven DarkSouless
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-03-19 18:08:36 UTC
replying just so it stays up on the front page
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#17 - 2013-03-19 18:28:48 UTC
This won't work.

Like other threads relating to this topic, they will become cloaked to the ones you are trying to influence.

We already know they do not know how to handle anything cloaked, even if it shows on the local thread list.

Twisted

Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked...
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2013-03-19 18:50:03 UTC
Nikk Narrel wrote:
This won't work.

Like other threads relating to this topic, they will become cloaked to the ones you are trying to influence.

We already know they do not know how to handle anything cloaked, even if it shows on the local thread list.

Twisted


Damn you!

Kaaahhhhhhhnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2013-03-20 00:21:35 UTC
Bump....

If you want to start an anti-AFK cloaking thread, start here and see if your idea has already been posted....please...for the love of God....

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Azrael Dinn
Imperial Mechanics
#20 - 2013-03-20 06:34:36 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Bump....

If you want to start an anti-AFK cloaking thread, start here and see if your idea has already been posted....please...for the love of God....


i'll bed you 10mil isks that CCP locks this soon Twisted

anyhow... yes for nerfing cloaks.

Lets see... what could i think of this time... it needs to be something new so I can bath in the tears of cloaky people.

oh yes... lets just remove cloaking modules and be done with it Cool

After centuries of debating and justifying... Break Cloaks tm
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