EVE General Discussion

Actually a fair few of those examples I gave had MMO components. Server on ARMA I and II as well as OFP often had sever hundred people online at any one time and they were incredibly popular games. ARMA II of course is the source of the War Z mod which is incredibly popular. Alongside ARMA III, Bohemia are making a dedicated War Z game which is rumoured to be having massive dedicated public servers being developed. Anyway, trying to make a distinction between MMORPGs and MMOFPSes doesn't help your case because the Avatar exploration would be an over the shoulder shooter. Which makes it closer to an MMOFPS than your traditional MMORPG.

can i be the mascot for team avatar?

This sounds great!

My only concern is that it turns into another WiS or Atmospheric Flight - announced, demo'd at fanfest, then shelved. I'm looking forward to playing this, but I'm also trying not to get my hopes up.

christ can't you just stay unsubbed or at least not make those cheesy goodbye posts.

I think that it is overwhelmingly clear that the player base wants this. Sounds freaking cool!

This sounds amazing, hope you can get something together for fanfest!

Love the idea about the system wormhole effects change the gameplay environment and need to be negated to explore deeper by restoring station systems!

First thing that occured to me is that you don't want the same immersion breaking safety that current WiS has (hopefully in the future station WiS will not be so safe).

in this you are leaving your ship and pod and wandering around an Anokis station so if you get scanned down (you should still be able to get found) there should be some option to be warned with maybe enough time to return and gtfo, or not .

Another way of looking at it is that you, as the all powerful capsuleer, never leaves the ship as you are too integrated with the pod to come out outside a station, but you actually send a small squad of your ship crew who are eminently expendable, who you can control directly or not.

So you could switch between FiS and WiS instantly. The further into the complex your team goes, the longer extraction takes and if you leave them you could lose crew for a module or two (or have a specialised investigative team module and tech, etc). This makes it more interesting with small teams, especially two rival teams on the same station. Two capsuleers wandering around a deserted station taking potshots at each other seems a little dull in comparison.

In the super long term (i.e. soon) you could even recruit dust bunnies to form a team, dial up their consciousnesses to your module of investigative dropsuits and laboratory and direct the whole encounter from the 'safety' of your ship (think Ripley 'helping' Dallas through the Alien airducts) - it would be so much fun even with an AI team, never mind a team of real minions. Come to think of it that scenario is pretty much a hollywood trope now and I can't think of any game that has tried to recreate it really.

Quit trying to destroy their hopes, the only thing keeping them from implementing WiS is us.

lol baby steps of let's make the ability to let a bunch of dudes dress up and emote other the top priority.

This is a fairly common opinion shared in virtually any thread about WiS.

I do have one thing to ask everyone, WiS supporters, haters and 'don't carers' alike.

Is EvE about spaceships, or is it about the sandbox?

This ^^

People regularly say that they don't want their spaceship game changed to include Avatars, but it's really not just a spaceship game at all. May many of the players don't even have to un-dock to cause chaos in the Eve universe. I spent a good amount of time last year running a corporation, and I have just started doing the same again. Many CEOs will know that most of your time is spent talking to people, sending evemails, organising stuff, etc etc. To people who play like this Eve is about the implications of social actions, ie it's about the sandbox.