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People who ride bicycles (on roads) should be run down

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Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#81 - 2011-10-19 20:42:45 UTC
Jada Maroo wrote:
Iosue wrote:
Jada Maroo wrote:
2. he thought I was serious in my suggestion that people with older vehicles should take it for the team and run over people on bikes wearing lycra


i'll just leave this here for the OP: taking one for the team

me tiptoes out...


That's terrible. I hope that car is okay.


That's the critical mass event. Frankly, they got what they deserved.

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Endeavour Starfleet
#82 - 2011-10-20 23:02:11 UTC
So even tho it was a bike event monitored by the police and not some random deal to block traffic you still rage?

0/10 as I am a bike rider and have to deal with people who refuse to change to avoid me on my LAWFUL (As in confirmed it with several patrol officers before I did so) use of the road. Around here tho if you start messing with bike riders be ready for the police to NOT be happy. Bike riders are protected by law and the tickets for incidents involving your physics with theirs are VERY steep.

In these tough economic times more are choosing to use the bike. If you can't handle that then get off the public road.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#83 - 2011-10-20 23:30:22 UTC
Sir Substance wrote:
Jada Maroo wrote:
Iosue wrote:
Jada Maroo wrote:
2. he thought I was serious in my suggestion that people with older vehicles should take it for the team and run over people on bikes wearing lycra


i'll just leave this here for the OP: taking one for the team

me tiptoes out...


That's terrible. I hope that car is okay.


That's the critical mass event. Frankly, they got what they deserved.


At 0:11 is that a Red Bull shirt? Bet tehy wish it really gave them wings P

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Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2011-10-21 00:55:40 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
So even tho it was a bike event monitored by the police and not some random deal to block traffic you still rage?

Critical mass is not a police approved event.

See the section about corking for more information on how critical mass riders deliberately ignore traffic lights and obstruct traffic.

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Carcosa Hali
Perkone
Caldari State
#85 - 2011-10-21 13:36:43 UTC

To Hell with all of you, I'm a pedestrian. We control the sidewalks, we control the crosswalks, we control the staircases. We mock you in gridlock, and laugh at you in snowy weather. You are all fools to challenge our dominance.
Aggressive Nutmeg
#86 - 2011-10-22 02:19:08 UTC
The thought of driving a car to work horrifies me. Stuck in traffic, paying for petrol, car parking, everybody looking so sad and/or angry. How does any human being endure that and stay sane?

I made a decision a long time ago that I would never live a life dependent on the car. So I bought a house in the heart of a capital city in Australia.

I ride my bike to work, to the shops, to the pub, take my kids for bike rides through the parklands and around the city on weekends...

It takes me 4 minutes to ride to and from work. I love my bike.

What price do you put on your free time? Two or more hours in a car must be like a little slice of prison every day.

Oh and no spandex. Unless you're a professional cyclist or your name is Wolverine, you should not be wearing it. It looks bad and everybody thinks you're a tool. So don't do it.

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.

Froz3nEcho Sarain
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2011-10-22 13:26:14 UTC
Haha silly Americans!

I am Dutch and 99% of the people here use a bicycle for transportation for small distances and we never have traffic problems or whatsoever. Maybe our roads are better for the use of multiple transportation devices. Maybe it is because we don't need over sized cars to cover up 'small things'.

Well what do I care and why should you guys care. The air is clean and the people aren't fat Lol

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#88 - 2011-10-22 16:58:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Double post
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#89 - 2011-10-22 16:58:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Sir Substance wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
So even tho it was a bike event monitored by the police and not some random deal to block traffic you still rage?

Critical mass is not a police approved event.

See the section about corking for more information on how critical mass riders deliberately ignore traffic lights and obstruct traffic.


Then take it up with your local law enforcement.

By law bikes are supposed to be on the road. Get over it and deal with it.

If an event is unsanctioned and they are not following common traffic law, take it up with your local law enforcement. hell you do not even need ot go home to call the police today. You can call them from the spot, you can film them breaking the law, you can report the agency, all from the palm of your hand.

HTFU


Slade
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#90 - 2011-10-22 17:27:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Froz3nEcho Sarain wrote:
Haha silly Americans!




I've been to your county many times, back when Bitburg Airbase was open.

Not be honest. Do you people WANT bikes or is it because your government makes it so darned expensive to have a car?

It's one thing to have something a certain way because you like it that way, it's another to be convinced you like it a certain way as a result of social engineering.

And frankly every time I asked I was told by the Dutch that they would like to have a car but cannot afford it.

I am sure that in America, seeing that we paid tax dollars to help GM move to China where they can do what most Americans can no longer do (which is buy a car), the media and schools will try to convince everybody how great it is to be a bike-riding slave pedaling along in some plannedopolis watching only rich people drive cars.

Let me remember here - yes it was the Dutch students who said to me that you can't really afford a car until you are some 30-something type way up the food chain in income.

You see, it's not about what's good for you, it's about having the freedom to decide. Where it up to me, the only car I would have is my 1970 Cyclone that I used to race against back in my youth, and seldom drive, and I would not need the two other vehicles I have now - one for farm tasks and the other is a diesel Mercedes that gets good mileage.

Of course, Diesel is more expensive. Why? Socialism. They see that diesel is used in trucks. Trucks mean commerce, commerce means profit. Therefore they must be punished. "That crowd" that is all for that did not like it when the politicians in the state deemed that their hybrid cars should be taxed because they don't spend enough on gas taxes. As usual, everybody in America likes to use laws and taxes to get what they want while sticking it to people they don't like, and then scream and cry like spoiled brats when the mechanics of taxes and social engineering they helped create comes back to bite them on the ass.

Now regarding the "critical mass" thing. It's not that these people are enthusiastic about riding bikes, nor is it there rather aggressive way of getting that idea out, it's that they do break traffic laws doing it, but thanks to political correctness, they get away with it.

Let's have some perspective. If you are in a politically incorrect group, and you so much as make any kind of threat or even threaten to make a threat, you will get SWAT teamed.
Otherwise you get a free pass if you are in a protected group or minority. That is what gets peoples' panties in a wad. Nobody really give a rats little grey ass who wants what or does what, it's when they foist it on others aggressively and get away with it while breaking the law.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Igualmentedos
Perkone
Caldari State
#91 - 2011-10-23 04:55:37 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Kinda sad how demographics - and possibly politics - get worked into vehicle choice and exercise.

Don't like it much.

You are either a spandex-wearing granola-munching welfaremongering liberal democrat on a bike or a big fat burger-eating warmongering conservative in an SUV.

I'd ride a bike if I felt the need but I prefer to run 6 miles every other day. I like burgers too, and Subarus are nice cars but would prefer an SUV since I use an old diesel Mercedes to get around anyway. I won't touch a burger that didn't come from the food co-op I get my food at - yes I said Co-op and I open carry my gun there too and even the women with the hairy armpits aren't bothered by that.

Once I got stopped by a cop during my 6 mile run in the backroads. I was wearing a sweatshirt, plain running shoes, and army BDU pants desert camo. Got stopped because I didn't look like someone who was out for exercise.

Good thing I didn't wear my old combat boots too then?

So I gotta wear spandex and look like a stupid yuppie from Seattle or not exercise at all and be a big fat neocon instead in order to be left alone?

I would like to wish there was a place for people like me, but I am afraid that both sides of the unitary power bloc that runs things and pretends to be against each other already has a place for me - complete with towers and dogs.


*head explodes*
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2011-10-23 05:34:35 UTC
I like my bike, it's a Harley Big smile

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Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2011-10-23 06:32:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Sir Substance
Slade Trillgon wrote:

If an event is unsanctioned and they are not following common traffic law, take it up with your local law enforcement. hell you do not even need ot go home to call the police today. You can call them from the spot, you can film them breaking the law, you can report the agency, all from the palm of your hand.

Law enforcement clearly isn't doing its job. In some cities, these rides are done monthly. I firmly believe that in any situation where the police should intervene but don't, it is the DUTY of a citizen to intervene in their place.

I personally would choose two people either side of a road with some barbed wire at strung at chest height running in the opposite direction to the movement, but a car is fine too.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#94 - 2011-10-24 03:32:39 UTC
Sir Substance wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:

If an event is unsanctioned and they are not following common traffic law, take it up with your local law enforcement. hell you do not even need ot go home to call the police today. You can call them from the spot, you can film them breaking the law, you can report the agency, all from the palm of your hand.

Law enforcement clearly isn't doing its job. In some cities, these rides are done monthly. I firmly believe that in any situation where the police should intervene but don't, it is the DUTY of a citizen to intervene in their place.

I personally would choose two people either side of a road with some barbed wire at strung at chest height running in the opposite direction to the movement, but a car is fine too.


Well you wouldn't want said people/cars to get hurt so I'd find some street lights and string up some piano wire about chest high. It's near invisible and has massive tensile strength.

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Khors
Doomheim
#95 - 2011-10-24 06:18:44 UTC
Why don't you just maul bicyclists down with your cars instead of whine about it.
NeoShocker
The Dark Space Initiative
Initiative Mercenaries
#96 - 2011-10-24 17:08:37 UTC
I ride my bike to my college. I always folllow the law so I won't get hurt, but I had several mother ******* car drivers isn't following the law, especially obstructing the pedestrian path to the other side on traffic lights. Even got one car speeding away to get in front of me to make a right turn, and i say "very ******* close" to me, then suddenly stopping in front of me. I went to kick the car, but I missed because the ****** made the turn and got away.

Made me hate car drivers more and more, but there are nice drivers that i did encounter, but the bad ones outnumber those... Thats why I prefer motocylce over cars, **** them.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#97 - 2011-10-24 17:37:25 UTC
NeoShocker wrote:
I ride my bike to my college. I always folllow the law so I won't get hurt, but I had several mother ******* car drivers isn't following the law, especially obstructing the pedestrian path to the other side on traffic lights. Even got one car speeding away to get in front of me to make a right turn, and i say "very ******* close" to me, then suddenly stopping in front of me. I went to kick the car, but I missed because the ****** made the turn and got away.

Made me hate car drivers more and more, but there are nice drivers that i did encounter, but the bad ones outnumber those... Thats why I prefer motocylce over cars, **** them.



Try it with a horse and you would wish you could call in air strikes.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

NeoShocker
The Dark Space Initiative
Initiative Mercenaries
#98 - 2011-10-24 21:49:55 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
NeoShocker wrote:
I ride my bike to my college. I always folllow the law so I won't get hurt, but I had several mother ******* car drivers isn't following the law, especially obstructing the pedestrian path to the other side on traffic lights. Even got one car speeding away to get in front of me to make a right turn, and i say "very ******* close" to me, then suddenly stopping in front of me. I went to kick the car, but I missed because the ****** made the turn and got away.

Made me hate car drivers more and more, but there are nice drivers that i did encounter, but the bad ones outnumber those... Thats why I prefer motocylce over cars, **** them.



Try it with a horse and you would wish you could call in air strikes.



ION canon from C&C may be better IMO.
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#99 - 2011-10-24 23:16:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Sir Substance wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:

If an event is unsanctioned and they are not following common traffic law, take it up with your local law enforcement. hell you do not even need ot go home to call the police today. You can call them from the spot, you can film them breaking the law, you can report the agency, all from the palm of your hand.

Law enforcement clearly isn't doing its job. In some cities, these rides are done monthly. I firmly believe that in any situation where the police should intervene but don't, it is the DUTY of a citizen to intervene in their place.

I personally would choose two people either side of a road with some barbed wire at strung at chest height running in the opposite direction to the movement, but a car is fine too.


Have you ever documented the infractions or contacted your local law enforcement? Remember the police are not really there to enforce the law prevent criminal activity, albeit that is the common missconception, but to intervene when the law is broken and to bring criminals to justice. I woudl think that someone in the Tears Alliance would understand this concept. Your real life tears are delicious sir.

All that aside, man the **** up and intervene as you believe that is what the common citizen is ment to do instead of crying about it here, and remember you better document them breaking traffic laws because if you can not prove it to be justifiable intervention your vigilantism will be severly frowned upon.

EDIT: It seems that i failed to add the / to the [s] to line out the enforce the laws.


Slade
Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#100 - 2011-10-25 00:16:24 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:

Remember the police are not really there to [s]enforce the law[s] prevent criminal activity

The police have the authority to act independently to enforce the laws. That's their whole purpose. When criminal activity occurs right infront of their noses on a monthly basis, and they ignore it, they are not doing their jobs.

Here is the policemans oath from the UK:

"I, ... of ... do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve the Queen in the office of constable, with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property; and that while I continue to hold the said office I will to the best of my skill and knowledge discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law."

Here is the new zealand one:

“I, [name], swear that I will faithfully and diligently serve Her (or His) Majesty [specify the name of the reigning Sovereign], Queen (or King) of New Zealand, her (or his) heirs and successors, without favour or affection, malice or ill-will. While a constable I will, to the best of my power, keep the peace and prevent offences against the peace, and will, to the best of my skill and knowledge, perform all the duties of the office of constable according to law. So help me God.

Maryland police deparment oath:

“I swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to the State of Maryland and support the Constitution and laws thereof; and that I will, to the best of my skill and judgment diligently and faithfully, without partiality or prejudice, execute the office of police officer according to the Constitution and laws of this State.


note: refusal to intervent with cyclists because of political correctness is prejudice


I bolded the bit that you didn't seem to understand.

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