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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#301 - 2012-06-18 15:40:13 UTC
Kiran wrote:
I am glad they are focusing on FiS more to fix the things that have been wrong with ships and the balance of weapons. But at the same time I would like to see WiS to be made a full feature to Eve.

After seeing the fanfest vids I saw a hint of what might come with WiS with the exploration of ruins we find in space etc. And the thought of exploring inside these really appeals to me. Its going to be a difficult balance to keep everyone happy in the game though, and we shouldn't bash the devs that are working on WiS because they are not on other projects. At the end of the day they are all working on Eve to make it one of the best MMO's on the market and to try and expand on the game world in other ways other than just in space content.

Eve is more than just a MMO/ computer game its a social meeting place as well.


Even if we was allowed to move from a CQ's to corp offices or industry sectors, the market trade floor via a lift sequence from our own CQ's would be a step forward. No need to render the whole of the inside of the station. Yet I know some player PC's will groan and die if given this amount of content plus moving avatars.



Well there is a very small team working on the WIS part of this game
That team had a name ,can,t remember it . Some time ago so called team promised a blog about something related to WIS
But because CCP is very afraid of kids that scream for their mommy and use terms as "unsubbing " the blog is not coming at all as it seems

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RAP ACTION HERO
#302 - 2012-06-18 17:34:12 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:


Well there is a very small team working on the WIS part of this game
That team had a name ,can,t remember it . Some time ago so called team promised a blog about something related to WIS
But because CCP is very afraid of kids that scream for their mommy and use terms as "unsubbing " the blog is not coming at all as it seems


it's called team avatar and you are the one whining and crying about a little delay in the devblog, yes let's see you get uncivil and apologize again

vitoc erryday
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#303 - 2012-06-18 17:42:06 UTC  |  Edited by: oldbutfeelingyoung
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:


Well there is a very small team working on the WIS part of this game
That team had a name ,can,t remember it . Some time ago so called team promised a blog about something related to WIS
But because CCP is very afraid of kids that scream for their mommy and use terms as "unsubbing " the blog is not coming at all as it seems


it's called team avatar and you are the one whining and crying about a little delay in the devblog, yes let's see you get uncivil and apologize again



oow thank you mister Hero
For helping me to remember that name again.

A thousand thanks from me

Fly safe mister Hero and thank you again


i am so sorry that i have to edit :
that delay is almost 3 weeks for a blog that is already written
and told to be released ASAP



again fly safe you all

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RAP ACTION HERO
#304 - 2012-06-18 17:49:19 UTC
i just thought of something
csm chairman seleene's blog http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.com
latest post is talking about june summit meetings, there was a session where the csm talked to devs about incarna
the release of the summit summary notes is currently in progress
so the dev blog will probably be around the same time those notes get released, so you will get both the csm notes talking about incarna, and the devblog
"soon" hopefully.

vitoc erryday
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#305 - 2012-06-18 17:54:41 UTC
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
i just thought of something
csm chairman seleene's blog http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.com
latest post is talking about june summit meetings, there was a session where the csm talked to devs about incarna
the release of the summit summary notes is currently in progress
so the dev blog will probably be around the same time those notes get released, so you will get both the csm notes talking about incarna, and the devblog
"soon" hopefully.


i hope you don,t get mad at me mister Hero ,but you forgot the TM after Soon

just to inform you about that little mishap

greetings and fly safe

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#306 - 2012-06-19 06:45:26 UTC
Now that we will be able to build up a virtual wardrobe anytime soon, this abbility begs for a couple of ancillary services, namely:

#1, "Show it off", AKA the ability to display full body avatars on the forums to show off clothing choices in until it comes a time that multiplayer WiS is real.

#2, "Put it on, baby", AKA the ability to switch clothes w/o redoing the portrait at all. The perfect tool would be an "avatar refitting window" within which we could drag and drop items between inventory and a mannequin, which is pretty much a standard procedure for RPGs.

This point of not recustomizing avatars for swtiching clothes is relevant because each portrait depicts a specific "frame" in the character animation cycle and so is more or less unique and unrepeatable even if the general pose is recorded. Also, IMO makes sense that switching clothes on our avatars was as easy as switching modules in our ships.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#307 - 2012-06-19 16:54:28 UTC  |  Edited by: oldbutfeelingyoung
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Now that we will be able to build up a virtual wardrobe anytime soon, this abbility begs for a couple of ancillary services, namely:

#1, "Show it off", AKA the ability to display full body avatars on the forums to show off clothing choices in until it comes a time that multiplayer WiS is real.

#2, "Put it on, baby", AKA the ability to switch clothes w/o redoing the portrait at all. The perfect tool would be an "avatar refitting window" within which we could drag and drop items between inventory and a mannequin, which is pretty much a standard procedure for RPGs.

This point of not recustomizing avatars for swtiching clothes is relevant because each portrait depicts a specific "frame" in the character animation cycle and so is more or less unique and unrepeatable even if the general pose is recorded. Also, IMO makes sense that switching clothes on our avatars was as easy as switching modules in our ships.



+1 for point 2

point 1 not really needed ,but thats only my opinion

edit
Ofcourse that is something for the webmasters and if they want to add something to the forums,let them do it.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#308 - 2012-06-20 22:03:51 UTC
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Sorry on the devblog front we got pushed out by the UI blogs. It's all in communities hands now but it is written and will be published ASAP.


Are we still waiting for this, or was all its content covered by the announcement of the new Nex store items?

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Dr Ted Kaper
Arondight
#309 - 2012-06-21 01:55:59 UTC
WiS would be great to connect to Dust. Although I dont see it any time soon because it is like adding a mini game to an already huge, complex game. So this is why i say it should be kept to an expanded interface: ability to access all menus from the station, a social aspect so avatar appearance does matter, and even the ability to assassinate someone in-station is a stretch. CCP already has an entire universe to look after.
Elysium Foxx
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#310 - 2012-06-21 11:22:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Elysium Foxx
WiS is a big task 4 a small team, but hopefully in the future (3,5,7yrs) it will get expanded upon and given more attention. I'm happy with that, as FiS is more important atm.
When I started eve 5 ish yr ago I thought WiS would be cool, and still do, however, it will need a lot of thought, development and good gameplay to be worth it. So ideas now are good.

I think WiS needs some elements that will impact eve gameplay and some that are just social timepassing activities.

Why not have FFiS - fist fighting in stations!
Leave the gunplay for the knuckle dragging dust bunnies, we podders are above that, surely.. We use spaceships for gunplay.

How bout leaving the seedy bar at a low sec minmatar station after a quick game of poker, and heading into the station slum district for to bet on a underground fight club match. Bet on a fighter, sponsor a fighter, fight yourself.
Imagine the epic scams when you throw a fight!! And you've bet on the other guy or convinced some carebear to bet 3bil on you..., Aah, that's EVE.

Win some fights and get called up to the league's and fight for your corp, or faction, or alliance in diff leagues.
Think faction War or an ally FFiS tourni. Fights the Dust bunnys. Idk.
Fight for the belt at the titles in Yulai.
Wanna be in our corp, sure, last 1rnd with our prize fighter and your in.
It would create a whole new eve subculture. New skills etc.

Would need significant improvement on avatar movement though. But they have fighting in WoD?

They should also make drugs and boosters only available in low sec slums, via WiS, so you have to actually know of a dealer, arrange a meet, and get out of your pod if you want to get dat fix. Drug dealing would be a niche career and add more life to loSec.

There's so many possibilities.
Elysium Foxx
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#311 - 2012-06-21 12:14:26 UTC
So if they did make some things only accessible through WiS (yes there will be tears), like drugs/boosters and maybe datacores, you know, small things, then there will need to be other good activities to draw ppl out of their pods. Like fight clubs.

Drug manufacturing, supply and dealing should be driven underground and put in low sec only. Take them off the markets and contracts, I mean really, drugs being sold... Openly... On the market?? How can concord condone drugged up podders piloting there ships under the influence? This might add some needed immersion and realism to WiS.

So if your a dealer, you need to get your name out there and actively sell the stuff. It would make it a lot more profitable. And what better place to sell them at than an underground fight in low sec. It will draw ppl into low sec. If you wanna fight in the high sec major leagues for big prize pools, you gotta pay your dues on the underground scene first.

Broadcast the major league title fights on the CQ screens. It's PvP, eve is PvP. You don't like fist fighting, no worries, you don't have to. But if I see you in the WiS bar I'm gonna punch you, and if you don't have "steel jaw" trained to at least lev3 your gonna be ko'd and I'm gonna gank the implants outta your skull. Sweet....thnx bro.

Manufacturers, suppliers and dealers, aswel as customers would need to network, you know... Socialise.... You know.... MMO type stuff. It'd be frikkin cool.
RAP ACTION HERO
#312 - 2012-06-21 12:26:05 UTC
Have fun standing at a lowsec station at some corner spamming buy drugs from me for hours like a dumb bot

vitoc erryday
Elysium Foxx
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#313 - 2012-06-21 13:23:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Elysium Foxx
Meh, wouldn't need to. But thanks for the well thought out response.
Id just spam jita local...or whatever. Get them to eve mail me, hook up a time and a place for a few deals at once and hopefully not get ganked on the way to/from.

But I guess you are against more traffic in low sec??
Roll

Soon get enuff regular buyers I'd imagine.
PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#314 - 2012-06-21 16:40:46 UTC
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
Have fun standing at a lowsec station at some corner spamming buy drugs from me for hours like a dumb bot


CCP would never introduce it like that. They would keep the market system as is, with the HUD as is. They would simply also incorporate a way to walk into a dark alley and access the same menu. Like they currently do with the ship fittings and so on.
Dex Tera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#315 - 2012-06-22 04:10:39 UTC
could some one from ccp actualy tell us how long till wis works are we gona wait a year 2 years how long ?
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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#316 - 2012-06-22 16:44:21 UTC
Dex Tera wrote:
could some one from ccp actualy tell us how long till wis works are we gona wait a year 2 years how long ?
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You are a very optimistic person

CCP can,t even post already written Devblogs about it .

It takes a few years before CCP isn,t scared anymore of a few basement dwellers screaming to unsub if the blogs are not about what they like

maybe another 6 years we get walk into the next corridor

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Teinyhr
Ourumur
#317 - 2012-06-23 11:43:43 UTC
I might be wrong but I think I read somewhere that as WiS is currently on backburner, the plate is full with fixing and iterating on FiS features at least for two years, or, by now this means the next year. So seeing more WiS stuff at 2014 at the earliest sounds about right. I hope I'm wrong, as I'd love to sit down and have a virtual pint with some old buddies before the game or I kick the bucket.
Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#318 - 2012-06-23 13:42:42 UTC
It's just sucks...What?

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#319 - 2012-06-23 22:40:40 UTC
Well... I just hope that in the Inferno 1.1 all of the market's clothes will be available, whatewer the cost. i finally found the set i like on SiSi :)

But of course, it's not enough, i've just waited too long, so i'm happy that at laest we have this...

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#320 - 2012-06-24 02:00:08 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
I might be wrong but I think I read somewhere that as WiS is currently on backburner, the plate is full with fixing and iterating on FiS features at least for two years, or, by now this means the next year. So seeing more WiS stuff at 2014 at the earliest sounds about right. I hope I'm wrong, as I'd love to sit down and have a virtual pint with some old buddies before the game or I kick the bucket.




WIS is on the backburner ,although a small team of devs is working on some aspects of it.
CCP said they still have some art and stuff left over from Incarna Development ,forget to tell us what stuff they mean with that.
CCP said they have to rethink an already great vision of EVE ,why ?
CCP said there is a blog but we can,t publish it ,why?

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