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Dex Tera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#261 - 2012-05-31 16:07:04 UTC
tldr wis isSadWhat?XCryEvilRollStraightUgh it should be LolPShockedBig smileCoolPirate open the door +more sex appeal + cyber punk flavour wis should = exploration of really big dark scary stations with some team based puzzle action and some combat that will net you some implant / rig /dust merc gear /wis gear bpos and npc tags for nice profitssss iterate on hacking and analyzing via wis

firstly where the hell are are the other coloured versions of the clothing i have asked many times in the help channel for this info and spoke to isd members in the help chan who basically told me to stfu or stay on topic i mean i thought that the help chan was for help related topics like where do i find item

but srsly i see the different coloured clothes in the market tree but not in the nex store what gives i would like some black and gold outfits please maybe a little variation so we don’t all look the sam

also What ever happened to the sexy latex jump suit from the old incarna demo vids MMMMMMMM LATEX HAWTNESS!!! i would like an option for extra camel toe plz cause it would be nice to have something to fap to while on a 48 jump trip in an orca

srsly we need some more sexy options for the ladies outfits this was looking good! and wtf did all the bad ass armor plating go from or old avatars now we all look like some stupid ass jcpenny catalogue models i thought this was frikin outer space scifi future shite i want bad assedness for the space bros and sluty gear for the space hoes (no disrespect ladies i only refer to you as hoes cause i dont know each of your names individually) i would like some miniskirts for teh chicks pls

implants? srsly ccp the best you could come up with was the ghey ass monocel ??? LAME !! ccp droped the ball yet again!

what happened to the cyber punk feel i came to eve for really Really!!!!! WTF right before incarna came out i saw this bad ass pod pilot and a shat my pants i was excited for incarna and WIS why WHY do i always get excited when i see shiny stuff from ccp then get let down

instead we got some matrix plugs that i cant even see ...way to rip them off !!! and now we have col. sanders and cpt.prickhard flying in space ships. no really i know every ones thinking the same thing but i just trying to scream it out right now please ccp we need moar cyber punk / cow bell

oh i also wanted to say something about the prices of your items in the nex store but i would want a riot to break out in jita or any thing but if there was im sure you would fix them or not

but instead of this we get sleeve tats YEAH ....not

art department and character design department need to get together with the dood who painted the capsuleer idealized pic and i don't know actually create something instead of just giving us pixel dolls to put clothes on give it some flavour

in terms of game play the first thing you need to do is open that dam door but yes your new future vision trailer at fanfest was very cool i too would like to walk in sleeper structures maybe take something like say new blueprints for dust mercs weaponry and armor and vehicles and we go in to fraction stations and steal the bpo by using our hacking and analyzing skills im not say ng take hacking and analyzing out of space im saying iterate on it and add it to wis also u could do this with rig or implant bpos small stuff like that also i wonder is there a plan fo a fps aspect or some kind of combat system if so you could do something like a survival style game play where one your in the enemy station u have to go through it with your exploration team or die and lose yor clone / implants / wis gear ofc you can always go back and pick it up it would be neat to go back and see my own corpse there i think it would be uber cool if this is where bpos came from and it wold have to be vast areas to explore basically dungeon style play look for chest open chest find bpo get out alive then profit

also i don't really want to name a specific game but i have been playing deus ex lately and the whole cybernetic augmentation thing could and some nice flavour to Wis in terms of game play and character designee wis really needs more flavor cause right now it tastes like space cake thats been cryofroze for a millennia and i need some chocolate nanite milk to wash it down

sry for wall of text / rant please dont ban me lolLolLolLolLol
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#262 - 2012-05-31 22:39:02 UTC  |  Edited by: oldbutfeelingyoung
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Sorry on the devblog front we got pushed out by the UI blogs. It's all in communities hands now but it is written and will be published ASAP.



BS So ccp can only place 1 blog a week on their own forum?
you say the blog is written ,i don,t see why another blog should hold it back.

R.S.I2014

buee
New Armitage Company
#263 - 2012-06-01 10:06:27 UTC  |  Edited by: buee
Dex Tera wrote:
buee wrote:
Many people in this forum frequently make the statement that WiS will likely end up being effectively a glorified chatroom, but that's just what it should be. At the last fanfest, CCP stated that one of the biggest and most integral parts of eve are the politics and social interaction of players throughout the universe.

WiS should facilitate this, it should be a new dimension that adds depth to these social interactions. Some of the first posts hit the nail on the head "Meeting a nameless business associate in a bar somewhere in the corner of space." Those types of interactions scream the gritty brutality that eve is in space.

CCP should move forward with WiS incrementally, focusing first on getting the social interaction facet into the game as soon as possible. It's nice to add a face to your pod pilot, but it's more to see the faces of the ones you're about to splode in space.


not this

if this is what i want i wouldnt play eve i want something that has good gameplay in it not second life crap



Eve is about spaceships, and i can't possibly imagine it including WiS open combat. Maybe some weapons that could be used to assassinate an individual, or individuals, but full combat is going to go to dust514. I supremely doubt to 99.999999% that CCP will ever introduce an open pvp system for WiS.

Plus, comparing EvE in any incarnation to Second Life is stupidity beyond known definitions. EvE WiS will never be that either, by default.
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#264 - 2012-06-02 15:55:08 UTC
Dex Tera wrote:


srsly we need some more sexy options for the ladies outfits[url=http://irisse.net/images/wis/WiS_screen_06_jpg.jpg]



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Dex Tera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#265 - 2012-06-02 21:08:44 UTC
wouldn't it be great to have combat in stations. in high sec stations you hav concord npc patrolling and you could try to suicide gank ppl just like in space. with sec hits for ganking too big ones in high sec like podding. and if you where in a low sec station it would have areas that had automated turrets to defend you. you and all you meat bros could roam the stations looking for ppl to MURDER! hahah so cool and in null whole alliances could take over a station but ppl could sneak in to assassinate ur ceo (insert mittard joke here ) also coming out of your pod is dangerous so if u died well walking in station u drop any WIS gear you may have. (your corpse behaves like a can does in space) also if u are killed u take a hit to you sp like say lose a lvl of a skill .ShockedBig smile but u could use a booster that negates this effect but it also negatively effects you in terms of you combat ability's and makes every thing blurry so if you knew you where about to get killed you could sniff this stuff and you wouldnt lose any sp but it would olny last for a bit just an idea i hope we get some great sneaky combat in stations.
Dex Tera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#266 - 2012-06-02 21:09:32 UTC
J3ssica Alba wrote:
Dex Tera wrote:


srsly we need some more sexy options for the ladies outfits[url=http://irisse.net/images/wis/WiS_screen_06_jpg.jpg]



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Dex Tera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#267 - 2012-06-02 21:13:03 UTC
buee wrote:
Dex Tera wrote:
buee wrote:
Many people in this forum frequently make the statement that WiS will likely end up being effectively a glorified chatroom, but that's just what it should be. At the last fanfest, CCP stated that one of the biggest and most integral parts of eve are the politics and social interaction of players throughout the universe.

WiS should facilitate this, it should be a new dimension that adds depth to these social interactions. Some of the first posts hit the nail on the head "Meeting a nameless business associate in a bar somewhere in the corner of space." Those types of interactions scream the gritty brutality that eve is in space.

CCP should move forward with WiS incrementally, focusing first on getting the social interaction facet into the game as soon as possible. It's nice to add a face to your pod pilot, but it's more to see the faces of the ones you're about to splode in space.


not this

if this is what i want i wouldnt play eve i want something that has good gameplay in it not second life crap



Eve is about spaceships, and i can't possibly imagine it including WiS open combat. Maybe some weapons that could be used to assassinate an individual, or individuals, but full combat is going to go to dust514. I supremely doubt to 99.999999% that CCP will ever introduce an open pvp system for WiS.

Plus, comparing EvE in any incarnation to Second Life is stupidity beyond known definitions. EvE WiS will never be that either, by default.


actually eve is not about spaceships its about conflicts and ways to deal with them so says most devs! so by that statement we must have some sort of mechanism to resolve conflict example my scrambler pistol to your temple now you are dead conflict solved!PiratePiratePiratePiratePirate
Bauloe
FBN 4893
#268 - 2012-06-02 22:20:36 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Sorry on the devblog front we got pushed out by the UI blogs. It's all in communities hands now but it is written and will be published ASAP.



BS So ccp can only place 1 blog a week on their own forum?
you say the blog is written ,i don,t see why another blog should hold it back.


don't be so hasty. this hold back on the devblog is, I assume, a result of the Restructering of the Company and its face to the public.

Since CCP is Playing down the importance of WIS, to the general eve public, WIS blogs will be taking a second seat to other blogs. Currently the "Universal UI" is taking center stage, as there be plenty of player tears being shed over it. So smart money is to focus people on the Universal UI as they make the needed changes. Not to bring out another blog as an attempt to divert attention players. Some Tin Foil hats will other wise say " CCP does not care about FIS as it is dumping the UI concerns to distract all with Shiny WIS.... which no one wants FAIL"

So once the waters of Universal UI settle I can see the WIS blog coming out.

You will be suprised how many whinny Care Bears are on these forums.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#269 - 2012-06-03 02:21:17 UTC
Bauloe wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Sorry on the devblog front we got pushed out by the UI blogs. It's all in communities hands now but it is written and will be published ASAP.



BS So ccp can only place 1 blog a week on their own forum?
you say the blog is written ,i don,t see why another blog should hold it back.


don't be so hasty. this hold back on the devblog is, I assume, a result of the Restructering of the Company and its face to the public.

Since CCP is Playing down the importance of WIS, to the general eve public, WIS blogs will be taking a second seat to other blogs. Currently the "Universal UI" is taking center stage, as there be plenty of player tears being shed over it. So smart money is to focus people on the Universal UI as they make the needed changes. Not to bring out another blog as an attempt to divert attention players. Some Tin Foil hats will other wise say " CCP does not care about FIS as it is dumping the UI concerns to distract all with Shiny WIS.... which no one wants FAIL"

So once the waters of Universal UI settle I can see the WIS blog coming out.

You will be suprised how many whinny Care Bears are on these forums.


A lot of people who are afraid of change ,yes indeed there are a lot of them.

Reason to wait with a already written blog? not at all !!!

R.S.I2014

J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#270 - 2012-06-03 08:32:45 UTC
Bauloe wrote:

You will be suprised how many whinny Care Bears are on these forums.


Actually it isn't that. A certain portion of the forum population does nothing except pick on a subject and peck it to death. We had the "hate WiS at all costs" people then we had the "hate Incursions at all costs" people, the current flavor of the month are the "hate miners at all costs" crowd and now from what I'm seeing its changing into the "hate high sec at all costs". They cry and stamp their little feet till mommy CCP takes away the toy from their brother just because they don't have one themselves.

There's enough material for a psychological treatise on these forums.
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Azura Solus
Rules of Acquisition
#271 - 2012-06-04 05:43:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Azura Solus
One idea i have been mulling around for a while that would help incorporate WiS and Dust. Is for Eve players that are at War (for high sec) or in low/Null to be able to hire dust mercs to Board a station and Sieze a players Captains quarters. Also a sieze can only occur when a player is docked at station. When this occurs the player is given 3 options

1 pay the mercs off ( isk )

2. Be "podded" in station. in which a player would then loose that clone and go to where ever his medical station was set at. Also the player would then gain a immunity to mercs for a short time say 24 hours.

Or 3 Choose to undock.

Just a thought anyway i like the WiS but it holds nothing more then eye candy and RP right now..

Edit: For the dust side of what this would look like i envision a Time trial type map Where if failed they wouldnt be able to sieze the captains quarters. I am in no way suggetion combat in station on the eve side Cause thats not what eve is about. But would add a level of immersion with dust and eve players/corps
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#272 - 2012-06-04 14:51:37 UTC
well another patch is coming ,so the promised blog ( with or without clear content) will not come soon .
and the only thing they have to do is post it.
I guess CCP is really afraid to hurt some crybabies whining about ,how terrible the changed UI is. i actually like the new setup ,but that is my opinion

R.S.I2014

Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#273 - 2012-06-05 04:09:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Lost True
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
well another patch is coming ,so the promised blog ( with or without clear content) will not come soon .
and the only thing they have to do is post it.
I guess CCP is really afraid to hurt some crybabies whining about ,how terrible the changed UI is. i actually like the new setup ,but that is my opinion

Me too. It's working fine to me, and i didn't even read those recent dev blogs about nothing...

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?

Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#274 - 2012-06-05 09:18:01 UTC
Dex Tera wrote:
sry for wall of text / rant

Walls of text are ok but for heaven's sake punctuate and spellcheck.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Acot Voth
Doomheim
#275 - 2012-06-05 19:47:07 UTC
As a complete newb I can honestly say the long term vision CCP has for EVE is one of the deciding factors in me subbing. It's nice to experience a mmo that has a challenging, innovative, exciting long term direction that they are even willing to share with us (most MMOS these days keep everything from the players).

The potential EVE has is astounding, WIS, Walking on Planets, Living on Planets, Fighting, Flying, etc. A whole other aspect to the game and I hope to be along for the ride.

I would rather have it happen slowly and correctly then be pushed out at the expense of quality and shorting the other areas of developmental staff. When it comes I expect it to do a lot in terms of appealing to a large group of players that don't have a current MMO that supports the way they play (I'm talking to you cantina dancers and socializers ;)

On the other side, as a former SWG player I know all to well the maddening desire of long awaited content. I understand the frustration that comes with it. Waiting years for content can drive a player to rage quit but getting the content and having it be terrible (NGE) will cause a mass rage quit.

Perhaps a fairly frequent dev blog about the progress might help sooth the rage? Or perhaps a proposed but loose timeline for content? I know that might be a pandoras box in MMOs but I would explain it as a very loose idea.

Personally I'd love to see 1 area (a social club) that we could load into and interact with one another.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#276 - 2012-06-07 19:42:26 UTC
I've been reading the blogs written by different CSM members with special attention to the Incarna meeting, and the general impression I have is that CCP shared NDA stuff that "would be awesome" but there are no plans to implement anything of it until some unset future, likely two years at least as CCP's plans for the next 6, 12 and 18 months already are set.

So I hereby offically declare that WiS has been demoted from "player relations stunt" to "vaporware" status.
PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#277 - 2012-06-07 20:22:07 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
I've been reading the blogs written by different CSM members with special attention to the Incarna meeting, and the general impression I have is that CCP shared NDA stuff that "would be awesome" but there are no plans to implement anything of it until some unset future, likely two years at least as CCP's plans for the next 6, 12 and 18 months already are set.

So I hereby offically declare that WiS has been demoted from "player relations stunt" to "vaporware" status.


Well we've known that, It's been vaporware since 2003. Incarna was just a nice little tease/troll by ccp.

All of the people afraid of my little eve, or spaceship barbie in effect forced incarna to be just that. A glorified avatar creator. The ridiculous expectations comments forced CCP to abandon ship before it ever got a chance to be something else.

But hey at least I can play dress up.
Bauloe
FBN 4893
#278 - 2012-06-07 22:24:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Bauloe
Bauloe wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Sorry on the devblog front we got pushed out by the UI blogs. It's all in communities hands now but it is written and will be published ASAP.



BS So ccp can only place 1 blog a week on their own forum?
you say the blog is written ,i don,t see why another blog should hold it back.


don't be so hasty. this hold back on the devblog is, I assume, a result of the Restructering of the Company and its face to the public.

Since CCP is Playing down the importance of WIS, to the general eve public, WIS blogs will be taking a second seat to other blogs. Currently the "Universal UI" is taking center stage, as there be plenty of player tears being shed over it. So smart money is to focus people on the Universal UI as they make the needed changes. Not to bring out another blog as an attempt to divert attention players. Some Tin Foil hats will other wise say " CCP does not care about FIS as it is dumping the UI concerns to distract all with Shiny WIS.... which no one wants FAIL"

So once the waters of Universal UI settle I can see the WIS blog coming out.

You will be suprised how many whinny Care Bears are on these forums.


okay it have been awhile so I am now agreeing with old but feeling young. Additional dev blog beyond ui should be publlished even with the disclaimber that UI us number #1 feature being delt with now but for those who want a little distraction here is a blog from our small dev team called avatar and their progress
Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#279 - 2012-06-08 08:14:07 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
I've been reading the blogs written by different CSM members with special attention to the Incarna meeting, and the general impression I have is that CCP shared NDA stuff that "would be awesome" but there are no plans to implement anything of it until some unset future, likely two years at least as CCP's plans for the next 6, 12 and 18 months already are set.

So I hereby offically declare that WiS has been demoted from "player relations stunt" to "vaporware" status.

What a shame...

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#280 - 2012-06-08 15:20:10 UTC
Bauloe wrote:
Bauloe wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Sorry on the devblog front we got pushed out by the UI blogs. It's all in communities hands now but it is written and will be published ASAP.



BS So ccp can only place 1 blog a week on their own forum?
you say the blog is written ,i don,t see why another blog should hold it back.


don't be so hasty. this hold back on the devblog is, I assume, a result of the Restructering of the Company and its face to the public.

Since CCP is Playing down the importance of WIS, to the general eve public, WIS blogs will be taking a second seat to other blogs. Currently the "Universal UI" is taking center stage, as there be plenty of player tears being shed over it. So smart money is to focus people on the Universal UI as they make the needed changes. Not to bring out another blog as an attempt to divert attention players. Some Tin Foil hats will other wise say " CCP does not care about FIS as it is dumping the UI concerns to distract all with Shiny WIS.... which no one wants FAIL"

So once the waters of Universal UI settle I can see the WIS blog coming out.

You will be suprised how many whinny Care Bears are on these forums.


okay it have been awhile so I am now agreeing with old but feeling young. Additional dev blog beyond ui should be publlished even with the disclaimber that UI us number #1 feature being delt with now but for those who want a little distraction here is a blog from our small dev team called avatar and their progress



For now CCP is very afraid for those whiny "i gonna quit " babies on the forums.
The moment somebody on these forums say ,they will unsub ,CCP is in a panicmode.
The UI is changed and i like the way it is now and maybe a lot more think the same ,but for some reason Hilmar gets an heart attack when 2% of the playerbase scream for their mother on these forums

R.S.I2014