Ships & Modules

Oh and just as a side note.

Mineral price is allready and new skys. With Hulkgeddon it will reach new dimansions.
Be prepared to pay 100m for a Drake or Hurrican and 400m for your favorit battleship ;).

I'm still waiting to see how ridiculously OP you people think the Hulk should be.

I want numbers. Everything else is bleating. Tell me what babies you are if you want the Hulk to be buffed.

Show me how much EHP it should have, how much PG/Cargohold.

Go on. Prove you're not all just big crybabies and give me the numbers.

This seems fair. No reason for a miner's bread and butter to not have the same defenses as a missioner's bread and butter, considering they (the miners) earn the same amount or less for a larger investment.

The problem is with bleaters like this for every inch they get they WAIL louder for the mile that they actually want.

He wants to mine AFK risk-free.

Not even single-player games let you do that do they?

So you are saying it is fair because a miner who doesn't have combat skills gets kill rights? I'm sure they are going to warp right to their hanger, grab their pvp ship that can not only find said pilot after a few gate jumps. And of course proceed to chase them into their possible null sec home or 1v1 with their superior combat skills?

No one is going to sit around to "possibly" get ganked by the person they just ganked. And further more, even if they did... They most likely have better skills and a ship to fight them. Not to mention could just as easily play station games until the other player gets bored, dies, or their right to kill them ends.

The current system is flawed. So I guess CCP needs to either pod gankers with concord. Or try to keep hulk ganking from being an eve online past time. The fact that it is a seasonal practice alone makes you realize how borked it is.

Dude, I can't mine at all (except Arbitrator with T1 mining drones). With none of my chars.

I'm just not such an ******* to not see the fail in balance and I don't try to defend this fail like you.

Do I want to PvP? Sure, I do it every day!
Do I need such an eazy target for my e-peen? No!
Does it mean I just star "fair fights"? For sure not *g*. Enter the space of my ally and you are dead. Doesn't matter if you fly a shuttle or multi billion mothership.

BUT as I like EVE I know this game can just survive when all professions are balanced. Not just the one I prefare.
Without miners (and highsec miners too) I can't buy ships or equip as I have sero interest in mining+production.

With the lose of drone regions I allready know the price will rise like crazy.
If Hulkgeddon starts and the ore from all this highsec miners is missing too I allready know T1 stuff will become crazy expensive.

And don't let's forget: 90% of all AFK highsec miners are ALTS FROM 00/low guys!!

We allready prove decent buffer tank fit is imposible.

And it is allready mentioned, that scanner is useless in high as you can't allways jump out as soon as some neutral enter the system.

And we allready prove, that a decent gank can kill ANY Hulk equal of fitting in less then 10 seconds (Hulk alligne time 17.4 seconds!!!!!!!).

So who do you try to impress with your lies?

This has probably already been said several times, but buffing the Hulk so it has a better tank is not the answer. All this will do is encourage more players to AFK mine to their heart's content.

Mining at its core is the problem and needs to be completely reworked. If it weren't so godawfully sleep-inducing, people wouldn't care how crappy their Hulk's tank was and how quickly they get ganked, because they would actually be present at their computers to keep it safe in the first place.

It needs to be more interactive. Not safer.

You don't even need a super tank.
Fit a 15-20k ehp hulk and mine beside the guy that fits his hulk with a civilian shield booster.
Once he gets ganked, it's time to move.

well.. DUH!!!

that's kind of the point of low / null ... right? no suicide ganking...
it's only SUICIDE if CONCORD will show up.
should you need it spelled out better, they don't show up outside of highsec.
so the hulks get popped just as often, if not more often, and those doing the popping don't even lose their destroyers.

seems to me that the hulk is not balanced against it's cost... that said, most t2 ships aren't... especially compared to some of their faction counterparts.