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Nocxium: The Sleeping Giant
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Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#41 - 2012-03-28 17:49:44 UTC
It's currently rising fast. Already have 11.75% profit on my stock. Keep it going Cool

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#42 - 2012-03-28 17:51:23 UTC
Casius Omega wrote:

did you even read what i wrote in the OP?
given time for stock to run out price WILL go up.


I read the OP but if you read the last number of posts they are mostly about hyping the scarcity and form a bubble. My post was addressed at them.

Also, it might seem odd enough but I have built capitals without mining a single pyroxeres roid.

There are other faucets around.

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Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#43 - 2012-03-28 17:56:17 UTC
Casius Omega wrote:


Where are minerals come from
|| Mineral || Ore% || Loot% || Drone Compounds% ||
||-----------||------||-------||------------------||
|| Tritanium || 46% || 43% || 11% ||
|| Pyerite || 29% || 60% || 10% ||
|| Mexallon || 30% || 59% || 11% ||
|| Isogen || 21% || 56% || 23% ||
|| Nocxium || 18% || 32% || 51% ||
|| Zydrine || 43% || 18% || 40% ||
|| Megacyte || 44% || 39% || 16% ||
|| Morphite || 77% || 1% || 22% ||

As you can see over 50% of nocxium came from drone regions. 40% of zydrine comes from drones and that mineral has already doubled and probably will triple in value. Im predicting this will happen to nocxium at the least it will double maybe triple.


To give a little perspective to this thread, here's a little question for you all to answer. How many nerfs to loot and drones have happened since this chart was made? How many boosts to mining?
Casius Omega
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-03-28 17:56:51 UTC
Tasko Pal wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


**yawn**


That's the sound of stupid.

As to nocxium, my take is that the current bump is from people getting out of zydrine. Nocxium has the problem that it's trading at an all time high. It can't go up much more before the low sec roids become more valuable to mine than ABC. And ABC can't go up much more before they're more valuable to mine by players with multiple alts than various grinds like anomalies, WH stuff, and l4 missions.



This post is stupid and doesn't make **** sence
Casius Omega
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#45 - 2012-03-28 17:58:44 UTC
Tasko Pal wrote:
Casius Omega wrote:


Where are minerals come from
|| Mineral || Ore% || Loot% || Drone Compounds% ||
||-----------||------||-------||------------------||
|| Tritanium || 46% || 43% || 11% ||
|| Pyerite || 29% || 60% || 10% ||
|| Mexallon || 30% || 59% || 11% ||
|| Isogen || 21% || 56% || 23% ||
|| Nocxium || 18% || 32% || 51% ||
|| Zydrine || 43% || 18% || 40% ||
|| Megacyte || 44% || 39% || 16% ||
|| Morphite || 77% || 1% || 22% ||

As you can see over 50% of nocxium came from drone regions. 40% of zydrine comes from drones and that mineral has already doubled and probably will triple in value. Im predicting this will happen to nocxium at the least it will double maybe triple.


To give a little perspective to this thread, here's a little question for you all to answer. How many nerfs to loot and drones have happened since this chart was made? How many boosts to mining?



Well i think mission loot got nerfed and alot of people run incursions rather than missions, drone poo is gone, i dont think mining has gotten a buff besides rorq bonuses.
lafforet
Amarr Royal Trust Bank
#46 - 2012-03-28 18:03:54 UTC
Actually, yes... nocx price will not rise any more... unload your sotckpile now! So that I can buy some more nocx for lower price! Big smile
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#47 - 2012-03-28 18:07:00 UTC
Casius Omega wrote:


This post is stupid and doesn't make **** sence


Agreed. Maybe you ought to think before you post?
Casius Omega
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-03-28 18:08:39 UTC
Currently only 23mill of nocx in jita at below 788.
After that there is a 788 wall of 20mill then .. practically nothing.
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#49 - 2012-03-28 18:13:34 UTC
Casius Omega wrote:


Well i think mission loot got nerfed and alot of people run incursions rather than missions, drone poo is gone, i dont think mining has gotten a buff besides rorq bonuses.


Mission loot and drones have been nerfed a lot of times with the only boost being the noctis. As to mining, we have the rorqual, orca, t2 mining ganglinks, and WH grav sites.
Driftfire
Northern Star Enterprises
#50 - 2012-03-28 18:58:13 UTC
TBH - I cannot see Nocx staying above 560 unless things change (drone nerf taken into account)

More than happy to be wrong.
lafforet
Amarr Royal Trust Bank
#51 - 2012-03-28 19:19:29 UTC
Driftfire wrote:
TBH - I cannot see Nocx staying above 560 unless things change (drone nerf taken into account)

More than happy to be wrong.




All listen to this argumented opinion! Unload your stockpile now! Last chance!!
Driftfire
Northern Star Enterprises
#52 - 2012-03-28 20:07:02 UTC
Well I'll sell as much as you can eat over 650 - which I cannot see it making
lafforet
Amarr Royal Trust Bank
#53 - 2012-03-28 20:31:45 UTC
Driftfire wrote:
Well I'll sell as much as you can eat over 650 - which I cannot see it making


Why should it make if drone region nerf is still to come in some future and current rise is only because people are making their stockpiles? Will see, however, how many days it will take to climb from 640 to 650. Then feel free to unload your stockpile.
Driftfire
Northern Star Enterprises
#54 - 2012-03-28 20:36:26 UTC
I have strong faith in my convictions - if you want to hedge against future rises contract me. Happy to see prices rise, so I do not want to affect the Jita price.

PS - not a massive player so keep your orders below 5mil chunks - will fill within the day...
Page Starcaster
Blue Angels Mining Company
#55 - 2012-03-28 20:36:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Page Starcaster
As stated in the OP you do get a little nox from pyrox in high sec.
Contrary to what the op stated about pyrox not being mined in high sec, pyrox is mined a lot in caldari space. I always hit every pyrox rock in every belt. If I do leave a belt unstripped there is no pyrox left.. it is at the moment the highest value per m3 ore in high sec
Some minerals that can not be acquired in high sec other than from former drone poo will go way up as low sec and wormhole mining are way higher risk and not so common.

Any mineral that can be mined in high sec even in small amounts will not be hit heavy by the drone poo nerf. High sec mining will get more profitable but minerals like nox are only needed in small amounts compared to the more common minerals. As there are so many high sec miners there will be no problem meeting the demand for nox from high sec mining

Other minerals however like morphite which I used to get primarily from drone poo, is going to get very hard to find. if the only source for morphite is mercoxit then where will the supply to hubs like Jita come from? mercoxit is hard to find. Even the rarest high sec grav sites never have mercoxit, never seen it in low either, can find it in only a few null sec belts in systems that have been upgraded, some null sec and wormhole grav sites, but that is it. Most null sec alliances and wormhole dwellers who bother to mine it keep it for themselves. I would say at least 90% of the morphite sold in Jita in the last year has been from drone poo. I am really glad I have a stock pile of almost 10,000 units. I bought it months ago(mostly in the form of drone alloys) for T2 production but may now keep it and sell it for massive profit when the price really goes up

The only minerals that will really go up in price due to the drone poo nerf are minerals that the only way to get them in high sec was from drone poo. Anything that can be mined in high sec will maybe double. Anything that can now only come from wormholes and null may go up by x5 or more.

I might have to reactivate my old mining crew accounts and dust off the old hulks. Mining just might give decent returns in the near future.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2012-03-28 23:11:57 UTC
noxcium was 70 isk a few years ago...
Mr Blue
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#57 - 2012-03-29 00:34:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Blue
problem with morph and to a certain degree zyd/mega, is that they are so a limited player on the industri. atleast morph is only used in t2 (last I checked) and only very little. zyd/mega is more common, but still totaly possible to supply with a "few" hundred dedicated miners.

Nocx is a big player and thus while its easyer to obtain is needed in much bigger quantities. So I dont think it easy to say its gonna go up or down beyond this and that unless your the oracle herself.
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-03-29 01:03:36 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
noxcium was 70 isk a few years ago...


I really wish I was smarter and put all my isk into nocx then.

I'm trying to remember when and why nocxium went skyrocket mode and I'm having trouble remembering. Was it the mission loot nerf/drone loot rebalance/ insurance rebalance patch of 2010? Was it the noctis dev blog? Or just good ol' fashioned speculation/market manipulation?

I don't think I'm buying the idea that nocxium is at the "low" price of 500-600 because of drone lands and will spike afterwards. Zydrine was at like 2k and drone lands reduced it to 850ish but nocxium did not suffer the same fate. There might be a small rise in nocxium price due to lower supply from drone lands but since nocxium can be mined in high sec I can't imagine it will spike like zyd. Pyro is the most isk/m3 to be mined in high sec or close to it, yes?

Although I am happy to haul around for a bit and buy up low 500 nocx orders and dump to 600 buy orders.
Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
#59 - 2012-03-29 01:44:01 UTC
yawn

If only there were something I could buy ad nauseum from NPC markets that supplied this mineral.

Nocxium has a cap you mullets.

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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#60 - 2012-03-29 04:32:15 UTC
Roll

That's the problem with secrets. People just can't stand to keep them.

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