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David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1321 - 2012-03-27 08:50:59 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
I have never said mittens should resign.

Butthurt goon (david cedarbridge) venting his anger...


Projecting much?
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1322 - 2012-03-27 08:51:08 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Didn't know Mittani is a roleplayer Straight


He isn't every other post he has ever made says 'this is who I am IRL'

trying to dissasociate now, is too little to late

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Lexmana
#1323 - 2012-03-27 08:52:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexmana
Marlona Sky wrote:
I His goal was to have someone commit suicide in real life.


Do you have any proof of that??

Remember, we are talking about a named person here, Alex Giantuco, and not about some game character. Maybe you like to throw false accusations around without prooof just to smear peoples reputation IRL too.
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#1324 - 2012-03-27 08:52:38 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
Versuvius Marii wrote:
I've been drunk plenty of times. Not once have I turned around to anybody and told them that if their issues are that bad they should kill themselves.

Just sayin'.



Ive been drunk alot of times too, ive said some very bad things to people when drunk. Ive also gotten into fights and hurt people. It isnt big, it isnt clever, but its what happens when you put mind altering chemicals into your system. Anyone who says that being drunk doesnt make you do stupid things is either A: Lying, or B: Never been drunk.


Wow don't ever want you in my defense. That does not make it an excuse. You hurt ppl but thats ok because you where drunk What? F**k me ????
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1325 - 2012-03-27 08:52:38 UTC
A question M

do you as an ex lawyer beleieve you could be charged with the reckless endangerment of life?

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Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1326 - 2012-03-27 08:52:53 UTC
orphenshadow wrote:
The arguments against those of us who don't support The Mittani's recent actions has resorted to.. "Oh your a npc corp member you are going to not support him no matter what" is getting kind of old.


Funny how that can easily be flipped around. Now all of the sudden you want everyone to pull punches against him and you guys when **** gets real.
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#1327 - 2012-03-27 08:53:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Singeabooty Raj
Ke'Daar wrote:
The Mittani

You are still my King of space

Sins of a Solar Spymaster #77: ~I wis the King of Space~ Big smile

Edit: ~Snipe~

Black Man with Goggles
Algia Knightstorm
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1328 - 2012-03-27 08:53:48 UTC
Avila Cracko wrote:
So this is "i cheated my wife, but i was drunk, so its ok" thread now?

I swear you people are ******* illiterate.
Fenris Deka
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1329 - 2012-03-27 08:54:24 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
A question M

do you as an ex lawyer beleieve you could be charged with the reckless endangerment of life?


No, he can't because the guy in question was never hurt nor even knew what was said, then when he found out, he didn't even care about it. He didn't care about the entire situation. It's not even a case of cyber bullying.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1330 - 2012-03-27 08:54:30 UTC
Also being drunk is no excuse

Alchohol just lowers your social inhabitions

Therefore this is what he really thinks but normaly wouldn't have the guts to say

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orphenshadow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1331 - 2012-03-27 08:54:36 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
orphenshadow wrote:
The arguments against those of us who still support The Mittani has resorted to.. "Oh your a goon/cfc member you are going to support him no matter what" is getting kind of old.

There are plenty of people in goonswarm and the cfc who are upset with what happened. The main difference is that we know the person behind the mistake. We know the character behind the persona that the rest of eve see's.

It's not some tin foil hat conspiracy.. We have no reason to want him off the CSM, and therefore no reason to close our minds and hearts to his sincere apology.


Question then for the goon organization then on the situation, seriously please. I myself feel the appology was well written. If not for the fact that real name was given. Majority of the people in this thread did not know that. His wife in other forums has expressed displeasure about it. Those are signs that it is serious and sentimental.

The question is about punishment. Understandably he is supported, I am sure it takes alot to keep the goons together. Honestly, I have no idea how from the outside view I get you guys keep it together. Something on the internal has to be doing it. But should there be, and would you guys agree with a reasonable punishment handed out. As a supporter, what do you feel if reasonable if yes. If no punishment, why not? Would no punishment be showing favoritizm or was there no violation of the rules?


I am not a member of Goons, So I cannot comment on how they are handling the situation internally. However, The man made a public apology, and willingly associated his real name with the situation. This will follow him around for the rest of his life. Not only that but he gave literally every isk he owned to the guy.

He is sorry for what he did and he feels shameful and regrets it. I do not think that he will do something like this again. I think that this is sufficient punishment for his action.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1332 - 2012-03-27 08:54:51 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
A question M

do you as an ex lawyer beleieve you could be charged with the reckless endangerment of life?


Believe it or not whenever somebody tells me to "kill myself" I don't immediately reach for, well, whatever it is one would use to perform that.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

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tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#1333 - 2012-03-27 08:54:59 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
A question M

do you as an ex lawyer beleieve you could be charged with the reckless endangerment of life?

Thereis No way he was ever a real practising lawyer.. No way...

All my views are my own - never be afraid to post with your main, unless you're going to post some dumb shit
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1334 - 2012-03-27 08:55:10 UTC
Fenris Deka wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
A question M

do you as an ex lawyer beleieve you could be charged with the reckless endangerment of life?


No, he can't because the guy in question was never hurt nor even know what was said, then when he found out, he didn't even care about it. He didn't care about the entire situation. It's not even a case of cyber bullying.


As far as I know, the charge doesn't include the fact it has happened , just that it might

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Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1335 - 2012-03-27 08:55:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
When i was in gradeschool, we were on a field trip. One of the students literally shat his pants and everyone saw it. Needless to say, there was many jokes about it.

Now, imagine if a teacher called an assembly, and dragged him up on stage and gave a huge lecture about bullying. Thats what you did to The Wis. You took his personal issues, and used it for your own self-serving purposes without even considering what he would want.

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Fenris Deka
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1336 - 2012-03-27 08:55:54 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Also being drunk is no excuse

Alchohol just lowers your social inhabitions

Therefore this is what he really thinks but normaly wouldn't have the guts to say


When I first read the tear mail, I thought the exact same thing. It was a plea for retribution on the people that ganked him, and a plea for recompense, nothing more.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#1337 - 2012-03-27 08:55:57 UTC
tiberiusric wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
A question M

do you as an ex lawyer beleieve you could be charged with the reckless endangerment of life?

Thereis No way he was ever a real practising lawyer.. No way...


Theres no way he will be again most likely when his bar association heres of his conduct

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Sentinel Mantik
Second Star
#1338 - 2012-03-27 08:56:34 UTC
I can't believe what is happening here...

As a person, I count the action of appologice from The Mittani. He may made the mistake to call out the name of the scam-victim CHAR, but he was drunk. I personaly normaly won't drink alkohol, especialy when i have to make a presentation (even if it is trolling at all) but i often see people do such things while they're drunk.
The char-name maybe could be changed... no one knows the real name of the player behind the char.

The facts I count:

- Mittens did a great Job as CSM 6 Chairmen
- over 10.000 people voted him for CSM 7
- Mittens made a mistake while drunk by calling the name
- Mittens apologiced for what he has done

I defenetly won't let one mistake be the turningpoint.

Who of you ever was so drunk that you said something that you wont have sad otherwise? Those please throw the first stone...

Minmatar 4 life

German player.
David Cedarbridge
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1339 - 2012-03-27 08:56:48 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
orphenshadow wrote:
The arguments against those of us who don't support The Mittani's recent actions has resorted to.. "Oh your a npc corp member you are going to not support him no matter what" is getting kind of old.


Funny how that can easily be flipped around. Now all of the sudden you want everyone to pull punches against him and you guys when **** gets real.


I like how you're looking for an argument here where there is none. Its much easier than actually reading posts, I'm sure.
Fenris Deka
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1340 - 2012-03-27 08:57:02 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
tiberiusric wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
A question M

do you as an ex lawyer beleieve you could be charged with the reckless endangerment of life?

Thereis No way he was ever a real practising lawyer.. No way...


Theres no way he will be again most likely when his bar association heres of his conduct


Your speculation is hilarious, you literally have no idea what you are posting about.