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My Apology

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Ventro69
61 Mech.
#1281 - 2012-03-27 08:33:40 UTC
The only way this can be resolved is if Mittani kills himself.

Oh noes, do I have to post an apology now? What would I say? I'm not even drunk!!

Shocked

Ventro69: There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
#1282 - 2012-03-27 08:33:44 UTC
Mitts has done more for this game than any of us, so he had a bad day and got his villian role mixed up with his RL role so what?

The 'victim' doesn't care, we don't care, lets move on and ignore the white knights trying to gain political capital and news out of this whole thing, they'll only suceed in harming EVE.
David Cedarbridge
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1283 - 2012-03-27 08:33:51 UTC
Mokanor Lenak wrote:
Vile rat wrote:

Oh it was a poor choice. I agree wholeheartedly!


So does Mittens, thus the apology. I believe it was heartfelt and I'm pretty damn sure we won't be seeing him do this again. That aside he's done a good job as CSM and I see no reason why he can't continue in this role. Also those of you saying he should step down as chair are kinda dumbos. The role is a made up role that has no power at all. Might as well say he needs to step down as princess cloudbloom of the fairy kingdom. It hasn't actually meant anything since we stopped doing formal meetings with people voting on things.



Its nice that he does a great job. Super.

But if it was anyone else, more anonymous, calling even jokingly in an official CCP event or forum to abuse another person up to a point that he should kill himself, telling people "go for it!" and telling people where and how and encoureging, he would have gotten a ban faster than a speeding bullet (or the moment a GM finds out).

Being "the mittens" or on CSM only makes it worse, and it does not give him postive points against what he did.
Even if it was stupid and parially a joke, still being held accountable is a must. Else whole CCP EULA is just a joke at most.


Yes, I'm sure he'd join the thousands of players over the years that have told people to go kill themselves. Why, I was banned 14 times just today for that same offense. Wait, how am I posting on these forums after having made such cruel comments? Clearly this mystery needs further examination.
Professor Alphane
Guns-R-Us Toy Company
#1284 - 2012-03-27 08:34:02 UTC
Just woke up...

Will post shred you later

just this comment now though...

Biomass yourself

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]

Josef Djugashvilis
#1285 - 2012-03-27 08:34:13 UTC
David Cedarbridge wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:

Or, think first then post.



I get it, you're saying that unless somebody agrees with you they must not be thinking right? So what you're really getting at is, "agree with me or don't post."

Sorry. man, one does not support a person doing the right thing (and, much more than I would have done in the same situation) by watching their crucifixion at the hands of ignorant people and people who simply dislike him for reasons entirely apart from this issue. I hate to break it to you, but you don't have the moral high ground on this one.



What?

I have said before that the goons are good for the game.

Sober up, think, then post.

This is not a signature.

Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#1286 - 2012-03-27 08:34:28 UTC
Sincere, I don't think so.

Damage control, well if he was a lawyer he should be good at that by now.

Real regret, kind of regret that someone has for getting caught doing something they shouldn't.

As for role playing, role playing on the forums is never a good idea unless it's clear that's what you are doing.


Personally, I don't think he feels any real regret, he just playing the audience and he's doing a fair job at that.
Algia Knightstorm
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1287 - 2012-03-27 08:34:40 UTC
Ventro69 wrote:
The only way this can be resolved is if Mittani kills himself.

Oh noes, do I have to post an apology now? What would I say? I'm not even drunk!!

Shocked


I'm afraid you're going to have to resign from the CSM.
orphenshadow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1288 - 2012-03-27 08:35:31 UTC
The arguments against those of us who still support The Mittani has resorted to.. "Oh your a goon/cfc member you are going to support him no matter what" is getting kind of old.

There are plenty of people in goonswarm and the cfc who are upset with what happened. The main difference is that we know the person behind the mistake. We know the character behind the persona that the rest of eve see's.

It's not some tin foil hat conspiracy.. We have no reason to want him off the CSM, and therefore no reason to close our minds and hearts to his sincere apology.
Adacia Calla
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1289 - 2012-03-27 08:36:57 UTC
He appologized, good, that shows he's not a complete douchebag.

Now he should resign.

Test signature....forum not applying settings :(

David Cedarbridge
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1290 - 2012-03-27 08:37:48 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
David Cedarbridge wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:

Or, think first then post.



I get it, you're saying that unless somebody agrees with you they must not be thinking right? So what you're really getting at is, "agree with me or don't post."

Sorry. man, one does not support a person doing the right thing (and, much more than I would have done in the same situation) by watching their crucifixion at the hands of ignorant people and people who simply dislike him for reasons entirely apart from this issue. I hate to break it to you, but you don't have the moral high ground on this one.



What?

I have said before that the goons are good for the game.

Sober up, think, then post.


"Goons" are good for the game but Mittens is not because...

Really, if you're going to keep repeating that gibberish about "think before you post" you could at least put enough thought into your posts to put some actual content in them.
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1291 - 2012-03-27 08:38:20 UTC
Captain IQ wrote:
The 'victim' doesn't care, we don't care, lets move on and ignore the white knights trying to gain political capital and news out of this whole thing, they'll only suceed in harming EVE.

But we DO care! If we take The Wis's depression and personal life, and spread it all over the internet news websites, we can remove Mittani from CSM!

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

Mokanor Lenak
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1292 - 2012-03-27 08:38:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Mokanor Lenak
Vile rat wrote:


Did he say he should kill himself or did he mock him for sending him an in game letter threatening to do out of game stuff in retaliation for Goonswarm blowing up his miners?

(it was the latter)


It was a private message. You know, private.
But what mittens said:

Quote:
Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is The Wiz. Its “T-H-E SPACE W-I-S”. He has his own corp. Find him.

(bolds no in original)

That is similar to telling people "go make this guy kill himself". In his position (as goons CEO and on CSM) can be considered as if he actually pulled the trigger himself if by any bad chance the guy would have actually kill himself.
David Cedarbridge
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1293 - 2012-03-27 08:39:55 UTC
Adacia Calla wrote:
He appologized, good, that shows he's not a complete douchebag.

Now he should resign.


I'm afraid I don't see how you're connecting these two ideas.
Lexmana
#1294 - 2012-03-27 08:40:10 UTC
He should not resign. That is just as stupid as the remark he threw in during Q&A. He ran for office and got 10k votes. That is an obligation to the community to stay and fight like a true space politician.

I think he and CCP learnt a lesson here - expect the next alliance panel to be sober.
Karim alRashid
Starboard.
#1295 - 2012-03-27 08:41:03 UTC
Perhaps I missed it somewhere, but what's the reason to believe the "victim" has suicidal thoughts? Because he said so?

Pain is weakness leaving the body http://www.youtube.com/user/AlRashidKarim/videos

Asuka Yuzaki
Yuzaki
#1296 - 2012-03-27 08:41:04 UTC
Alcohol the weak man excuse What?

Josef Djugashvilis
#1297 - 2012-03-27 08:41:07 UTC
I have never said mittens should resign.

Butthurt goon (david cedarbridge) venting his anger...

This is not a signature.

ExhumeToConsume
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1298 - 2012-03-27 08:41:24 UTC
orphenshadow wrote:
The arguments against those of us who still support The Mittani has resorted to.. "Oh your a goon/cfc member you are going to support him no matter what" is getting kind of old.

There are plenty of people in goonswarm and the cfc who are upset with what happened. The main difference is that we know the person behind the mistake. We know the character behind the persona that the rest of eve see's.

It's not some tin foil hat conspiracy.. We have no reason to want him off the CSM, and therefore no reason to close our minds and hearts to his sincere apology.


You must be joking, that larping f****t has sold us out and destroyed our EveO forums ehonoure! I hope he takes his own life at the earliest possible opportunity*






*comments on this forum are indicative only and should not be used as a recommendation for any real life action that could harm the target of said comments or his friends/relations/pets/garden plants
Prince Kobol
#1299 - 2012-03-27 08:41:29 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Captain IQ wrote:
The 'victim' doesn't care, we don't care, lets move on and ignore the white knights trying to gain political capital and news out of this whole thing, they'll only suceed in harming EVE.

But we DO care! If we take The Wis's depression and personal life, and spread it all over the internet news websites, we can remove Mittani from CSM!



The Mittani was the person who first decided it would be funny to tell everybody about Wis.
snotface
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1300 - 2012-03-27 08:41:42 UTC
For all of our sakes DO NOT RESIGN!

(caps fully intended)