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Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3441 - 2012-03-28 16:11:28 UTC
Orkasm wrote:
Giuliano Verti wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Here is a shortened video of what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMA

Here is the EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.as

Other players have been perma-banned for less than what Alex did.



No they haven't, Mittani did nothing ingame that would constitute a break of ToS or EULA.



are you in the denial state ?

csm represents eve and CCP, look it up theres more than the TOS/EULA

beside that , they can exclude you from their service WITHOUT giving any reason at all


Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!
Daviclond
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3442 - 2012-03-28 16:12:23 UTC
weasil421 wrote:
the great players of this game.


hahahahahaha oh what it must be to see this game through the eyes of a pubbie
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3443 - 2012-03-28 16:12:24 UTC
Magnus Orin wrote:
Titans will still be nerfed no matter what The Mittani does.


What does game balance have to do with any of this? I welcome super capital nerf with open arms. It needs to be done. I also have been wanting them balanced far longer than Alex has been wanting it.

The issue at hand is will Alex receive special treatment and not be banned, thus sending the message that what he did is ok, or will CCP ban him sending the message that this kind of in and out of game player harassment is not tolerated.

So please stay on topic.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3444 - 2012-03-28 16:12:28 UTC
weasil421 wrote:
The only problem I see with The Mittanni retaining any form of post on the CSM is that it took the viral responses of thousands of eve players to make him aware of his actions as he apparently saw nothing wrong with what he had done well before fanfest/bragging about said actions. I think CCP needs to take this into consideration. I think Mittani should resign entirely from the CSM as this is not representative of the great players of this game.


Its not thousands of players. Most of the angry mob are forum alts in NPC corps.
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3445 - 2012-03-28 16:12:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
Princess Bride wrote:
Most hilarious part of The Mittani's apology: Where he claims he's a roleplayer.

Quote:
It's one thing to play a villain in an online roleplaying game - when I post on these forums or on twitter, I usually do so as 'The Mittani', and do my level best to convince everyone that I'm an unrepentant space villain, as that kind of facade provides an in-game advantage to me and my alliance.


So he's a roleplayer now? And not only in game, but he's roleplaying on the forums too? Oh wait and Twitter as well. ROFL! Anyone who has seen him and other goons continuously mock roleplayers in general snorted milk out their nose when they read that part. Even if they weren't drinking milk at the time.

Can anyone name other Eve players who also roleplay on Twitter?

he's not just a roleplayer - he's into live action role playing (LARP) which is pretty special even among huge nerds

http://i.imgur.com/dbiqx.jpg

goons love him for it^^
Magnus Orin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#3446 - 2012-03-28 16:13:16 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:
Orkasm wrote:
Giuliano Verti wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Here is a shortened video of what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMA

Here is the EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.as

Other players have been perma-banned for less than what Alex did.



No they haven't, Mittani did nothing ingame that would constitute a break of ToS or EULA.



are you in the denial state ?

csm represents eve and CCP, look it up theres more than the TOS/EULA

beside that , they can exclude you from their service WITHOUT giving any reason at all





Look it up? How about you cite your sources and provide evidence of your claims with a link.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#3447 - 2012-03-28 16:13:54 UTC
de4deye wrote:
Magnus Orin wrote:
de4deye wrote:
If Mittani cared, he would:
- Step down from CSM all together
- Tell his zerglings to quit being badposters on the forums and tell them to quit posting with npc alts
- Biomass his character
- Never come back

No one is fooled by his crappy apology.


Titans will still be nerfed no matter what The Mittani does.

Who cares? Lol I don't even own a titan. Is this all goons have on their mind? This seems to be the only response goons can gather for everything I say, sad to be you.


Does it help if I admit to owning a titan and saying having them nerfed to hell is one of the better things Alexander managed? (still doesn't excuse fanfest) but I'm not going to say he was completely rubbish.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Daviclond
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3448 - 2012-03-28 16:14:10 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:


They can hardly do things like what they did with HB and then give Mittens less for something worse.

Frankly HB got a rough ride but it will cause a lot of uproar if Mittens gets less for doing worse things.


so if someone gets unfairly banned so should other people?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3449 - 2012-03-28 16:14:12 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:

They can hardly do things like what they did with HB and then give Mittens less for something worse.

Frankly HB got a rough ride but it will cause a lot of uproar if Mittens gets less for doing worse things.


These worse things being a single drunken joke that is utted on a daily basis in EVE and has been for the last decade.
Akai Kvaesir
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
#3450 - 2012-03-28 16:14:40 UTC
The Anti-Swarm will not be denied. It is not an entity. It is an idea.

Frogblast the Vent Core! When the W'rkncacnter came, Pthia was killed, and Yrro in anger, flung the W'rkncacnter into the sun. The sun burned them, but they swam on its surface.
Kallynda Nai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3451 - 2012-03-28 16:15:19 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:
Orkasm wrote:
Giuliano Verti wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Here is a shortened video of what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMA

Here is the EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.as

Other players have been perma-banned for less than what Alex did.



No they haven't, Mittani did nothing ingame that would constitute a break of ToS or EULA.



are you in the denial state ?

csm represents eve and CCP, look it up theres more than the TOS/EULA

beside that , they can exclude you from their service WITHOUT giving any reason at all




The CSM agreement has already been invoked and dismissed in another thread. It doesn't matter how much you wish it were so, the EULA/TOS does not apply in this instance.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#3452 - 2012-03-28 16:15:22 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dragging his name through the mud across as many news sites as you can


I don't agree with that, nor do i agree with anyone dragging EVE through the mud in the media like our friendly neighborhood goons have happily done.

However, if he had actually resigned days ago like he said he would, none of that would have happened. This entire thing would have been long over if he didn't like the attention so much. He's just suffering for his vanity at this point.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#3453 - 2012-03-28 16:15:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
Quote:
How about you cite your sources and provide evidence of your claims with a link.



bloody hell READ THE TOS.

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp


points 25 and 26 ....


Namely

Quote:

25. CCP reserves the right to close, temporarily or permanently, any user’s account without advance notice as we deem necessary. Furthermore, we reserve the right to delete all user accounts or inventory of characters as warranted.

26. We reserve the right to ban any user from the game without refund or compensation.



Would it help if we could use a larger font?

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
The Breadmaster
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3454 - 2012-03-28 16:15:50 UTC
The CSM published by CCP

Excerpt from page 20 of the linked CCP document-

CSM REPRESENTATIVE CONDUCT

any behavior or actions considered being a material breach of the eula or tos
by a Csm representative is grounds for immediate dismissal and permanent
exclusion from all pending and future participation in the council. There are no
exceptions, regardless of the infraction. representatives are not only expected to
uphold the social contract that all society members are held accountable to, but
should also set a behavior standard for everyone else to follow.
____

This sounds pretty clear cut to me. Unless we don't play by these rules anymore?

"immediate dismissal and permanent exclusion"

Policies are created to insure all players are treated fairly and equally. We can't
begin making exceptions to one without eliminating the rule altogether.

What kind of publicity will EVE receive if he or any future player does commit
suicide? The media will look back on this incident and see how the company
handeled it which could open them up for future liability.

Any player regardless of alliance affiliation needs to understand the gravity of
this situation outside of the context of Eve.

This is a situation that could end Eve.
Giuliano Verti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3455 - 2012-03-28 16:15:56 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:
Orkasm wrote:
Giuliano Verti wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Here is a shortened video of what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMA

Here is the EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.as

Other players have been perma-banned for less than what Alex did.



No they haven't, Mittani did nothing ingame that would constitute a break of ToS or EULA.



are you in the denial state ?

csm represents eve and CCP, look it up theres more than the TOS/EULA

beside that , they can exclude you from their service WITHOUT giving any reason at all




And in CCP HQ... and in a CCP sanctioned event... and in a CCP live broadscast....
Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3456 - 2012-03-28 16:16:17 UTC


It's a game. You play it.

Would you like a kitten?

Magnus Orin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#3457 - 2012-03-28 16:17:21 UTC
Fuck I didn't win on my Tim Horton's cup this morning. Sad
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3458 - 2012-03-28 16:17:29 UTC
Magnus Orin wrote:
Lt Pizi wrote:
Orkasm wrote:
Giuliano Verti wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Here is a shortened video of what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMA

Here is the EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.as

Other players have been perma-banned for less than what Alex did.



No they haven't, Mittani did nothing ingame that would constitute a break of ToS or EULA.



are you in the denial state ?

csm represents eve and CCP, look it up theres more than the TOS/EULA

beside that , they can exclude you from their service WITHOUT giving any reason at all






Look it up? How about you cite your sources and provide evidence of your claims with a link.


cause im not your teacher/daddy

hint : was postetet in this thread already

Goon Tears are best tears, because they're 25% alcohol by volume!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3459 - 2012-03-28 16:17:36 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Dragging his name through the mud across as many news sites as you can


I don't agree with that, nor do i agree with anyone dragging EVE through the mud in the media like our friendly neighborhood goons have happily done.

However, if he had actually resigned days ago like he said he would, none of that would have happened. This entire thing would have been long over if he didn't like the attention so much. He's just suffering for his vanity at this point.


By days ago you mean yesterday when he arrived home.
Tim Sebo
Doomheim
#3460 - 2012-03-28 16:18:23 UTC
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