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Myacese
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
#581 - 2012-03-13 19:50:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Myacese
casama wrote:
Well, if caps cant kill subcaps, why you fix the game and make that subcaps cant kill caps?


seconded.
a logical argument here, what i was about to state as well. hey CCp, i guess you have no comment on this as well.
Machine Delta
State War Academy
Caldari State
#582 - 2012-03-13 19:51:02 UTC
Lord Thorin wrote:
Machine Delta wrote:
Lord Thorin wrote:
Incredible that CCP just play into Goon hands!

Lets just call the game "Goons Online" and be done with it. I don't know how goons and others can cry nerf when it's the only way some alliances can counter the huge numbers that can be thrown into one system at any time. They gimp the titan tank by fitting mods to kill subcaps, so therefore take a huge risk to field them in the first place.

TIDI was introduced to deal with large numbers of people therefore making alpha more prevalent, this helped certain alpha fleets and reduced the effectiveness of others....

Just because some alliances have the balls to drop Titans and Supers onto other fleets, why can't the other alliances escalate like the game is intended?

Unbelievable response by CCP and just another move that proves they don't understand how eve works anymore.



Because some alliances...
Yours mainly, end up doing this with all the titans and supers on one side.
Ever wonder why you lose every fight under a cynojammer?



Very poor response that lacks alacrity, however something one would expect from you.

FIghting under a cyno jammer puts the defensive alliance in a good position to field huge numbers + caps/supers. Considering that Goons still have one of the largest super fleet in EVE yet cry nerf is hilarious.

You have to admit, lots of the changes recently have been of benefit to goons. I'm waiting for the 1400 howitzer nerf and then we will seriously see some crying!


How is CCP Greyscale part of the CFC?
U should take a look at your own alliance history and issues.
Really if you had the eagerness to develop and recruit subcap pilots instead of supers
Rebuttal here would be the least of your flaws.


Ghostnite24
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#583 - 2012-03-13 19:51:37 UTC
LMAO so as long as we are nerfing titans can we nerf drakes and T3 cruisers too? they are sooo way over powered and as long as we do that can we nerf all of them as well? becuz obviously they hurt ppl and can shoot things. if this keeps up i may as well join world of warcraft again becuz this is all i am beginning to see here...
Caneb
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#584 - 2012-03-13 19:51:42 UTC
Weaselior wrote:

ahh yes, goonswarm will truly be helpless when we need to switch to a different battleship doctrine

I'm pretty sure we already did.
Lord Fargo
Thirsty Beaver
#585 - 2012-03-13 19:51:47 UTC
Carl Albanit wrote:
CCP is making a 100b Ship worst than a 3b Ship....

Seems Legit


*tactical facepalm*


The change can't be as "worst" than your grammar.
CynoNet Two
GSF Logistics and Posting Reserves
Goonswarm Federation
#586 - 2012-03-13 19:52:13 UTC
Lelob wrote:

Titans being purely anti-cap weapons seems somewhat useless outside of ganks, given the incredible rarity of capital fights in EVE right now. Especially when the side fielding caps and titans has traditionally been facing a blob of subcaps and not caps. At its core it not only shows CCP's ignorance of the metagame right now, but also of the fact that no serious attempts have been made to actively kill titans outside of ganks. Saying titans are imbalanced and need a nerf simply does not make sense, given the context in which the argument is being made.


Attempts to kill titans are made everyday. They usually conclude in a fashion similar to this, or this.

I find it astonishing that you none of you realise that behaviour like this is what got your toys nerfed.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#587 - 2012-03-13 19:52:16 UTC
Mhyn Teregone wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Why should I be mad that an alliance is getting developer help?

Your alliance has two members on CSM6 who have been party to every single conversation on this subject .. you should really bring this allegation up with them.



"What could we do about it if he is?"

Thats the response I get.


But its ok, we've learned well from Mittani when it comes using the media to vent our concerns, why ask CCP when i can ask other groups that will put it publicly in print and smear it all over CCP's face, you know, like you guys do when you don't get your way?

Soundwave and Screegs both were part of goonswarm, giving them as much power as they've attained was bound to lead to one thing and one thing only since they still associate with Goons, and today, we can see it in print, in the most ham handed useless gesture ever recorded.

15 seconds to lock your own hull class, and sub caps that can still be hit by the Titan guns.


Sounds about how a Goon would get the change done.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Drago Palermus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#588 - 2012-03-13 19:52:16 UTC
posting really late in an epic thread
Tamplarul
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#589 - 2012-03-13 19:53:16 UTC
Andski wrote:
Acwron wrote:
Achaiah7 wrote:
The tears, they precious. I can haz your stuffs?


You can't. Cos you can't fly it. Now go back into your drake.


If I recall right, we relieved you of the burden of Nyx ownership. You replaced it, and lost a Nyx and Ragnarok shortly thereafter. HEH


he lost a Nyx but not a Titan
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#590 - 2012-03-13 19:54:22 UTC
Holy ****, grath went tinfoil.

On this day the forces of Light and Justice truly have won Eve.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#591 - 2012-03-13 19:55:03 UTC
Lelob wrote:
In truth I'm not really sure what CCP is trying to accomplish here.

Titans being purely anti-cap weapons seems somewhat useless outside of ganks, given the incredible rarity of capital fights in EVE right now. Especially when the side fielding caps and titans has traditionally been facing a blob of subcaps and not caps. At its core it not only shows CCP's ignorance of the metagame right now, but also of the fact that no serious attempts have been made to actively kill titans outside of ganks. Saying titans are imbalanced and need a nerf simply does not make sense, given the context in which the argument is being made.


Why, exactly, do titans rarely get killed outside of ganks?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Lord Thorin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#592 - 2012-03-13 19:55:07 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Mhyn Teregone wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Why should I be mad that an alliance is getting developer help?

Your alliance has two members on CSM6 who have been party to every single conversation on this subject .. you should really bring this allegation up with them.



"What could we do about it if he is?"

Thats the response I get.


But its ok, we've learned well from Mittani when it comes using the media to vent our concerns, why ask CCP when i can ask other groups that will put it publicly in print and smear it all over CCP's face, you know, like you guys do when you don't get your way?

Soundwave and Screegs both were part of goonswarm, giving them as much power as they've attained was bound to lead to one thing and one thing only since they still associate with Goons, and today, we can see it in print, in the most ham handed useless gesture ever recorded.

15 seconds to lock your own hull class, and sub caps that can still be hit by the Titan guns.


Sounds about how a Goon would get the change done.



Couldn't agree more Grath.
Lord Thorin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#593 - 2012-03-13 19:56:28 UTC
NERF WHALES, THEY ARE THE LARGEST CREATURE ON EARTH AND THEY CAN TRACK REALLY SMALL CREATURES CALLED KRILL
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#594 - 2012-03-13 19:56:33 UTC
Tamplarul wrote:
Andski wrote:
Acwron wrote:
Achaiah7 wrote:
The tears, they precious. I can haz your stuffs?


You can't. Cos you can't fly it. Now go back into your drake.


If I recall right, we relieved you of the burden of Nyx ownership. You replaced it, and lost a Nyx and Ragnarok shortly thereafter. HEH


he lost a Nyx but not a Titan


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11888158

hmmmmm

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Mirmedon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#595 - 2012-03-13 19:57:49 UTC
I don't usually post on the EVE forums, but when I do its in threads full of tears.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#596 - 2012-03-13 19:58:08 UTC
its hilarious raiden. got ordered to ***** on neutral alts in this thread because we were having too much fun laughing at their pain

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#597 - 2012-03-13 19:58:51 UTC
Ghostnite24 wrote:
LMAO so as long as we are nerfing titans can we nerf drakes and T3 cruisers too? they are sooo way over powered and as long as we do that can we nerf all of them as well? becuz obviously they hurt ppl and can shoot things. if this keeps up i may as well join world of warcraft again becuz this is all i am beginning to see here...


Theyve already pretty much said they are nerfing drakes in the most recent CSM minutes.
Tamplarul
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#598 - 2012-03-13 19:58:59 UTC
Andski wrote:
Tamplarul wrote:
Andski wrote:
Acwron wrote:
Achaiah7 wrote:
The tears, they precious. I can haz your stuffs?


You can't. Cos you can't fly it. Now go back into your drake.


If I recall right, we relieved you of the burden of Nyx ownership. You replaced it, and lost a Nyx and Ragnarok shortly thereafter. HEH


he lost a Nyx but not a Titan


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11888158

hmmmmm


was another guy on titan
Skrypt
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#599 - 2012-03-13 20:00:32 UTC
Sounds like a good idea. Let me dedicate my 120m SP character to a spacecoffin that opens bridges and can shoot non-existent capital fleets.

Oh well, at least this means there's one less account for me to sub.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#600 - 2012-03-13 20:00:46 UTC
Lord Thorin wrote:

You have to admit, lots of the changes recently have been of benefit to goons. I'm waiting for the 1400 howitzer nerf and then we will seriously see some crying!


Your spies are a little out of date mate. We don't use those anymore.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.