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Incoming titan adjustments

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Charles Case
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#541 - 2012-03-13 19:31:23 UTC
I've had an erection for 28 pages now
Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#542 - 2012-03-13 19:31:54 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Andski wrote:


Congrats, you've descended to the level of tinfoil hat wearing pubbies


Hey, the truth sucks, but its still the truth, you have an ex alliance member as one of the head design guys for the game.


Sounds totally legit.


You must forgive Grath. After all, his famous opening quote from the Mintchiplol Series Collection is "Hi, hi, I'm Grath, kill whitey, I hate the government".
He may be predisposed to fantasies of vast right wing conspiracies.
Krystal Flores
Deliverance.
#543 - 2012-03-13 19:31:58 UTC
Andski wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Oh and CCP be sure to change the message for new players:


Join a coalition that can field 1000 dudes or more or don't bother trying to play at all.


Better than telling them "don't bother going to 0.0 until you can fly a titan" tbh

I can't fly a titan yet i am useful in all fleets, cause you know, Our TItans use support fleets.
Machine Delta
Perkone
Caldari State
#544 - 2012-03-13 19:32:20 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Durr Hurrr Durr wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Oh and CCP be sure to change the message for new players:


Join a coalition that can field 1000 dudes or more or don't bother trying to play at all.


Oh hi Grath!! You mad? Lol


Why should I be mad that an alliance is getting developer help?





But is that even true?
U are saying this but how does this specifically help one side?
There are lots of people in my alliance building / training for supercaps.
They are going to be hurt by this as well.

Have you considered that this nerf might be good for all sides?
Unless you just think its a conspiracy between goons and CCP.
Really though I am starting to think that may actually be true.
Then again I just don't know if we can take you seriously.
BrokenBC
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#545 - 2012-03-13 19:32:53 UTC
Supersnowprs wrote:
First the obvious: A titan is a ship that is a lot harder to make (Time, materials, training).
-A blap fit titan does the same if not less damage than a dread. (Depending on its fit.)
-What titans have going for them is they can do it mobile while having better tracking, ehp, lock times.

As of right now titans have a little too much tracking and could even do with a few less sensor strength.
But ccp, these changes are too much.
Lets forgot all the blob Quantity over Quality and all that stuff for now.

"Realistically" (As per lore and the proposed changes)

So say you empire has finally built its largest ship ever, a titan. Its role is Anti-caps as ccp has stated.
Lets say its taken your team a decade, (You had to do R&D to come-up with BPs ect.)
-Only problem is that even with sensor boosters it still takes forever to even lock a titan nether mind other capitals. (See the other posts.)
So now you have a 13km long spaceship that you wasted 10 years of the empires time and money on.
-That locks slower than a sieged dread.
-Does the same or less damage than a sieged dread
-Can lock as many targets as that dread
-Tracks as well as that dread.
-And that cost as much as 50 sieged dreads (roughly).

Im fairly certain that the people who hired you will be quite pissed off that all you built was a much more expensive armored dread that can fire a Doomsday. (Unless you told them you were making that) And were too lazy to add decent electronics that you could of easily fit.

Point here
-5 scan rez is too slow
-only 3 targets at five scan rez is stupid
-The Caldari team got assassinated for being too stupid with money.




OOoo the roll player angle.I like it!
Venus Vermillion
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#546 - 2012-03-13 19:32:54 UTC
For all those poor widdwe "X accounts canceled" pubbies...

You're not very convincing. We'll believe you when we see the screenshots of you step by step self-destructing your space coffins and destroying your stuff - giving it away isn't even proof because your other account will just give it back.

If yer gunna quit? Make it real. Otherwise, just keep paying your :tenbux: like everyone else.
Travis Wells
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#547 - 2012-03-13 19:34:25 UTC
Supersnowprs wrote:
First the obvious: A titan is a ship that is a lot harder to make (Time, materials, training).
-A blap fit titan does the same if not less damage than a dread. (Depending on its fit.)
-What titans have going for them is they can do it mobile while having better tracking, ehp, lock times.

As of right now titans have a little too much tracking and could even do with a few less sensor strength.
But ccp, these changes are too much.
Lets forgot all the blob Quantity over Quality and all that stuff for now.

"Realistically" (As per lore and the proposed changes)

So say you empire has finally built its largest ship ever, a titan. Its role is Anti-caps as ccp has stated.
Lets say its taken your team a decade, (You had to do R&D to come-up with BPs ect.)
-Only problem is that even with sensor boosters it still takes forever to even lock a titan nether mind other capitals. (See the other posts.)
So now you have a 13km long spaceship that you wasted 10 years of the empires time and money on.
-That locks slower than a sieged dread.
-Does the same or less damage than a sieged dread
-Can lock as many targets as that dread
-Tracks as well as that dread.
-And that cost as much as 50 sieged dreads (roughly).

Im fairly certain that the people who hired you will be quite pissed off that all you built was a much more expensive armored dread that can fire a Doomsday. (Unless you told them you were making that) And were too lazy to add decent electronics that you could of easily fit.

Point here
-5 scan rez is too slow
-only 3 targets at five scan rez is stupid
-The Caldari team got assassinated for being too stupid with money.



You couldn't even bother using an npc alt with an avatar?
BrokenBC
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#548 - 2012-03-13 19:34:29 UTC
Venus Vermillion wrote:
For all those poor widdwe "X accounts canceled" pubbies...

You're not very convincing. We'll believe you when we see the screenshots of you step by step self-destructing your space coffins and destroying your stuff - giving it away isn't even proof because your other account will just give it back.

If yer gunna quit? Make it real. Otherwise, just keep paying your :tenbux: like everyone else.



Ya biomass or STFU. :)
Mhyn Teregone
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#549 - 2012-03-13 19:34:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Mhyn Teregone
Grath Telkin wrote:
Why should I be mad that an alliance is getting developer help?

Your alliance has two members on CSM6 who have been party to every single conversation on this subject .. you should really bring this allegation up with them.
Lord Thorin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#550 - 2012-03-13 19:35:05 UTC
Incredible that CCP just play into Goon hands!

Lets just call the game "Goons Online" and be done with it. I don't know how goons and others can cry nerf when it's the only way some alliances can counter the huge numbers that can be thrown into one system at any time. They gimp the titan tank by fitting mods to kill subcaps, so therefore take a huge risk to field them in the first place.

TIDI was introduced to deal with large numbers of people therefore making alpha more prevalent, this helped certain alpha fleets and reduced the effectiveness of others....

Just because some alliances have the balls to drop Titans and Supers onto other fleets, why can't the other alliances escalate like the game is intended?

Unbelievable response by CCP and just another move that proves they don't understand how eve works anymore.
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#551 - 2012-03-13 19:35:29 UTC
better yet, give me your "useless" titan and so I can use it uselessly

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Rydis
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#552 - 2012-03-13 19:35:35 UTC
Charles Case wrote:
I've had an erection for 28 pages now


I too, have had an erection at least as long except these balls, they hurt.
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#553 - 2012-03-13 19:35:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Terranid Meester
Cedo Nulli wrote:

Its like Deathstar rolling around with only its main planetdestroying weapon and nothing else.


Wasn't the first deathstar destroyed by the star wars equivalent of rifters with torpedos? The second deathstar had a giant hole right through to the middile of it [it took 2 ships and a bunch of small furry teddybears on a technetium moon to blow that one up]. And both took years to build and multiple people to crew and staff.
Carl Albanit
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#554 - 2012-03-13 19:36:21 UTC
CCP is making a 100b Ship worst than a 3b Ship....

Seems Legit


*tactical facepalm*
Achaiah7
Perkone
Caldari State
#555 - 2012-03-13 19:36:37 UTC
The tears, they precious. I can haz your stuffs?
Richter Enderas
Kaesong Kosmonauts
#556 - 2012-03-13 19:36:51 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:



Obviously this is Soundwave trying to milk what he can out of a dying old game for his old allaince and nothing more, but guys, guys, it was bad when it was T20 that was doing this for his alliance.



THIS IS WHAT PUBBIES ACTUALLY BELIEVE
Wirbin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#557 - 2012-03-13 19:37:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Wirbin
Grath Telkin wrote:


Why should I be mad that an alliance is getting developer help?



lmbo they are nerfing the heck out of the big basket your dumb alliance put all of its eggs into! http://i.imgur.com/Zjwo4.gif
mama guru
Yazatas.
#558 - 2012-03-13 19:37:36 UTC
Stop whining.

I did not **** and moan when I could no longer fit 7 Heatsinks on my Geddon and get away with it.

CCP has a history of nerfing stuff that is hillariously gamebreaking.

EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.

Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#559 - 2012-03-13 19:38:14 UTC
Carl Albanit wrote:
CCP is making a 100b Ship worst than a 3b Ship....

Seems Legit


*tactical facepalm*


No, it's better by a margin. A supercarrier can't field 150 fighters simply because it costs 15 times as much as a carrier.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Krzdr
XIII Caribous
#560 - 2012-03-13 19:38:26 UTC
death2supercaps

"The Mittani isn't even gone for a day and CCP's management is already making bad decisions."